Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search)
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texte = Dumb question: I can get all the software downloaded and installed, but nowhere in the tutorials and guides does it explain how to configure and start/ stop Lighttpd. Anyone have any hints? On Apr 7, 2006, at 10:48 PM, devaulw@onebox.com wrote: > No, Rails does not make programmers obsolete. > > From what I have seen (I've been playing with it in my increasingly > rare spare time), it increases the programmer's ability to change > the program without having to re-design everything. One can do more > with less planning. > > Here's an oversimplification: > Think of existing systems as being built on a very well defined set > of plans. Rails allows you to get to a basic application quickly > and then make changes to reach the final product without worrying > about having detailed plans at the outset, i.e. it is very flexible. > > Flexibility assumes you stick to the principle of having code not > repeated and keep data (model), business logic (controller) and > interface (view) as separate. You then change the one piece of > code that does the function and voila, the application is updated. > Rails does not make it impossible to not deviate from this, but it > seems to make it easier to stick to clean code (thanks in part to > Ruby). > > Rails also has lots of testing features built-in. I think Java > programmers might appreciate this more than most, but I'm starting > to see the value in some canned tests I can repeatedly use. > > Think of Rails as a platform that could raise the starting point > for a web project. Here's other examples, you can serve html, xml, > rss depending on what the browser can handle/has requested and this > requires little more than probing the accepts-header. You can > build validation into the model of the database. AJAX components > can be easily rolled in (updating forms and other nice effects). > Web applications start to look and feel more like desktop apps. > Think gmail, google maps and things like that. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Krockover
> Sent: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:42:03 -0500 > To: "WebDNA Talk" > Subject: Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) > > I'm curious - is something like Ruby on Rails making our jobs > obsolete? The days of coding pages upon pages of spaghetti code > seem to be going away to the plug-n-play modular designs that > something like RoR offers. > > On a related note, I'm still digging into Python. There are so > many modules and classes that can be added it's making my head > spin; and I mean that in a good way - it seems limitless to me at > this point. And to a previous message, yes, Python was used for > the Googlebot I later found out. It was also used for some NASA > project and several other notable projects. > > G. > > At 08:18 AM 4/7/2006, you wrote: >> Sounds interesting, I too will check this out. A while back I had >> some colleagues rant/rave about RoR. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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Dumb question: I can get all the software downloaded and installed, but nowhere in the tutorials and guides does it explain how to configure and start/ stop Lighttpd. Anyone have any hints? On Apr 7, 2006, at 10:48 PM, devaulw@onebox.com wrote: > No, Rails does not make programmers obsolete. > > From what I have seen (I've been playing with it in my increasingly > rare spare time), it increases the programmer's ability to change > the program without having to re-design everything. One can do more > with less planning. > > Here's an oversimplification: > Think of existing systems as being built on a very well defined set > of plans. Rails allows you to get to a basic application quickly > and then make changes to reach the final product without worrying > about having detailed plans at the outset, i.e. it is very flexible. > > Flexibility assumes you stick to the principle of having code not > repeated and keep data (model), business logic (controller) and > interface (view) as separate. You then change the one piece of > code that does the function and voila, the application is updated. > Rails does not make it impossible to not deviate from this, but it > seems to make it easier to stick to clean code (thanks in part to > Ruby). > > Rails also has lots of testing features built-in. I think Java > programmers might appreciate this more than most, but I'm starting > to see the value in some canned tests I can repeatedly use. > > Think of Rails as a platform that could raise the starting point > for a web project. Here's other examples, you can serve html, xml, > rss depending on what the browser can handle/has requested and this > requires little more than probing the accepts-header. You can > build validation into the model of the database. AJAX components > can be easily rolled in (updating forms and other nice effects). > Web applications start to look and feel more like desktop apps. > Think gmail, google maps and things like that. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Krockover > Sent: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:42:03 -0500 > To: "WebDNA Talk" > Subject: Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) > > I'm curious - is something like Ruby on Rails making our jobs > obsolete? The days of coding pages upon pages of Spaghetti code > seem to be going away to the plug-n-play modular designs that > something like RoR offers. > > On a related note, I'm still digging into Python. There are so > many modules and classes that can be added it's making my head > spin; and I mean that in a good way - it seems limitless to me at > this point. And to a previous message, yes, Python was used for > the Googlebot I later found out. It was also used for some NASA > project and several other notable projects. > > G. > > At 08:18 AM 4/7/2006, you wrote: >> Sounds interesting, I too will check this out. A while back I had >> some colleagues rant/rave about RoR. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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