[test]RE: [WebDNA] WebDNA as cgi app (was WebSite Examples)

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2008

It keeps the original formatting. numero = 100050
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texte = test-----Original Message-----From: Bob Minor [mailto:bob@cybermill.com] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:42 PMTo: talk@webdna.usSubject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA as cgi app (was WebSite Examples)php says otherwise:http://us.php.net/manual/en/intro.session.phpif you disabled cookies, and deleted them, then php stores will lose their session id just like everyone else's.On Jun 29, 2008, at 9:03 PM, Peter Ostry wrote:> I've put "invisible" in quotes because the PHP session ID is > normally not in the URL (it does not need to be) and no, it is not a > cookie. It is known by PHP and bound to the browser. Works always, > even if the user turns cookies off. It is shown if you display it. > The user has no way to block or manipulate it. It remains the same > as long as there is a session_start() called on top of the page. And > it dies, hm, next week? ;-) Don't know.>> ::::::::> Peter Ostry>>> On 30.06.2008, at 02:37, Bob Minor wrote:>>> Well the php sessions and asp sessions for that matter are cookies, >> nothing really invisible.>>>> On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:48 PM, William DeVaul wrote:>>>>> What is an invisible session id? I thought sessions were either in>>> the URL as a parameter or in a cookie.>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Peter Ostry wrote:>>>> On 29.06.2008, at 19:11, Donovan Brooke wrote:>>>>>>>>> ... some (official) work has been done to replace>>>>> authentication and the system in >>>>> favor>>>>> of cookies.>>>>>>>> Cookies aren't bad to identify a machine but they can be >>>> disabled. For ID's>>>> I would prefer a kind of "invisible" session ID like PHP has.>>>>>>>> ::::::::::>>>> Peter Ostry>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Minor>> Director of Internet Services>> ------------------------------------------------------------>> Cybermill Communications>> http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com>>>> Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and>> hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400.>>>> Complete ddos proof hosting solutions and network services.>>>>Robert MinorDirector of Internet Services------------------------------------------------------------Cybermill Communicationshttp://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.comProviding Ecommerce and interactive website development andhosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400.Complete ddos proof hosting solutions and network services. Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

[test]RE: [WebDNA] WebDNA as cgi app (was WebSite Examples) ("Will Starck" 2008)

test-----Original Message-----From: Bob Minor [mailto:bob@cybermill.com] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:42 PMTo: talk@webdna.usSubject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA as cgi app (was WebSite Examples)php says otherwise:http://us.php.net/manual/en/intro.session.phpif you disabled cookies, and deleted them, then php stores will lose their session id just like everyone else's.On Jun 29, 2008, at 9:03 PM, Peter Ostry wrote:> I've put "invisible" in quotes because the PHP session ID is > normally not in the URL (it does not need to be) and no, it is not a > cookie. It is known by PHP and bound to the browser. Works always, > even if the user turns cookies off. It is shown if you display it. > The user has no way to block or manipulate it. It remains the same > as long as there is a session_start() called on top of the page. And > it dies, hm, next week? ;-) Don't know.>> ::::::::> Peter Ostry>>> On 30.06.2008, at 02:37, Bob Minor wrote:>>> Well the php sessions and asp sessions for that matter are cookies, >> nothing really invisible.>>>> On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:48 PM, William DeVaul wrote:>>>>> What is an invisible session id? I thought sessions were either in>>> the URL as a parameter or in a cookie.>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Peter Ostry wrote:>>>> On 29.06.2008, at 19:11, Donovan Brooke wrote:>>>>>>>>> ... some (official) work has been done to replace>>>>> authentication and the [cart]"> system in >>>>> favor>>>>> of cookies.>>>>>>>> Cookies aren't bad to identify a machine but they can be >>>> disabled. For ID's>>>> I would prefer a kind of "invisible" session ID like PHP has.>>>>>>>> ::::::::::>>>> Peter Ostry>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Minor>> Director of Internet Services>> ------------------------------------------------------------>> Cybermill Communications>> http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com>>>> Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and>> hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400.>>>> Complete ddos proof hosting solutions and network services.>>>>Robert MinorDirector of Internet Services------------------------------------------------------------Cybermill Communicationshttp://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.comProviding Ecommerce and interactive website development andhosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400.Complete ddos proof hosting solutions and network services. "Will Starck"

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