Re: WebCat editing, SiteGuard WAS:SiteAssociative lookup style?

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1997


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 10813
interpreted = N
texte = >I think part of our problem in coming to grips with all of this has to do >with caching, but I'm not positive. It seems as if formulas are cached >into the acgi and only updated when the acgi is restarted. Is that >conclusion correct ?Formulas.db is actually a database, so just like any other database you must send $Quit to WebCatalog to force it to reload any changed files on disk. (SiteEdit changes files on disk without WebCatalog knowing about it). You might consider creating a forms-based template so your webmasters can edit formulas using WebCatalog's database $Replace features. That would make it unnecessary to do $Quit.>We are using SiteEdit Pro to let Curt (and others) edit away and >all-in-all it is working like a charm. We also got a copy of SiteGuard, >but it appears that it was already part of the WebCommerce Solution ?SiteGuard contains a subset of the WebDNA commands that WebCatalog has. WebCatalog indeed has all the features of SiteGuard.>What I'm really getting at here is how we can give _selected_ remote >users the ability to not only flush caches, but also Quit-Start >applications (like the WebCat acgi) without using a single SiteGuard >(one-for-all) user name and password ? While WebCat provides for groups, >it doesn't (obviously) seem as if SiteGuard does.1) It doesn't hurt to have remote people send $Quit commands to WebCatalog. It just reloads databases from disk the next time it needs them.2) If you still REALLY want to prevent remote users from sending any command, go to your WebCat preferences and remove the word QUIT from the list of allowed anonymous commands. Then anyone whose username belongs to the Admin group can still send $Quit3) SiteGuard provides the exact same Group abilities that WebCatalog has.SiteGuard is kind of like NetCloak + (partial NetForms) + 10,000-100,000 user/password page-level security. Or to put it another way, SiteGuard is WebCatalog2 minus (database, commerce, shopping cart, email, math).Grant Hulbert, V.P. Engineering | ===== Tools for WebWarriors ===== Pacific Coast Software | WebCatalog Pro, WebCommerce Solution 11770 Bernardo Plaza Court, #462 | SiteEdit Pro, SiteCheck, PhotoMaster San Diego, CA 92128 | SiteGuard 619/675-1106 Fax: 619/675-0372 | http://www.smithmicro.com Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: WebCat editing, SiteGuard WAS:SiteAssociative lookup style? (Grant Hulbert 1997)
  2. WebCat editing, SiteGuard WAS:SiteAssociative lookup style? (Sven U. Grenander 1997)
>I think part of our problem in coming to grips with all of this has to do >with caching, but I'm not positive. It seems as if formulas are cached >into the acgi and only updated when the acgi is restarted. Is that >conclusion correct ?formulas.db is actually a database, so just like any other database you must send $Quit to WebCatalog to force it to reload any changed files on disk. (SiteEdit changes files on disk without WebCatalog knowing about it). You might consider creating a forms-based template so your webmasters can edit formulas using WebCatalog's database $Replace features. That would make it unnecessary to do $Quit.>We are using SiteEdit Pro to let Curt (and others) edit away and >all-in-all it is working like a charm. We also got a copy of SiteGuard, >but it appears that it was already part of the WebCommerce Solution ?SiteGuard contains a subset of the WebDNA commands that WebCatalog has. WebCatalog indeed has all the features of SiteGuard.>What I'm really getting at here is how we can give _selected_ remote >users the ability to not only flush caches, but also Quit-Start >applications (like the WebCat acgi) without using a single SiteGuard >(one-for-all) user name and password ? While WebCat provides for groups, >it doesn't (obviously) seem as if SiteGuard does.1) It doesn't hurt to have remote people send $Quit commands to WebCatalog. It just reloads databases from disk the next time it needs them.2) If you still REALLY want to prevent remote users from sending any command, go to your WebCat preferences and remove the word QUIT from the list of allowed anonymous commands. Then anyone whose username belongs to the Admin group can still send $Quit3) SiteGuard provides the exact same Group abilities that WebCatalog has.SiteGuard is kind of like NetCloak + (partial NetForms) + 10,000-100,000 user/password page-level security. Or to put it another way, SiteGuard is WebCatalog2 minus (database, commerce, shopping cart, email, math).Grant Hulbert, V.P. Engineering | ===== Tools for WebWarriors ===== Pacific Coast Software | WebCatalog Pro, WebCommerce Solution 11770 Bernardo Plaza Court, #462 | SiteEdit Pro, SiteCheck, PhotoMaster San Diego, CA 92128 | SiteGuard 619/675-1106 Fax: 619/675-0372 | http://www.smithmicro.com Grant Hulbert

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