Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES**
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texte = AGAIN - three cheers!! for your part in rebirthing WebDNA! Hang in there ( I can personally relate to so many hats and task overload - been there a lot!) I feel this language is the best and will pledge my help where possible I am trying to find time in very near future to help out, and I am sure others are too. And yes - anyone that is running systems beyond supported levels....try to run at supported levels - or try a test on on older platform to confirm. our system runs fine until some bad bot hits bad code. neither are webDNA issues. have not had a regular crashing issue, but if i did i would try to move a few sites to a simpler setup (maybe one at a time) and isolate the issue that way. jym Donovan Brooke wrote: > Chris Wilkinson wrote: >> Yes, the errors are intermittent. Yes the code, and case is correct. >> >> Seriously, the system can't even find it's own admin files!!! I tried >> to log >> in to the admin and got: >> >> " Error: template >> 'CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/Admin/Welcome.tpl' not >> found" >> >> >> Details: >> OS.....................: Mac OSX 10.3.9 >> hardware...............: G4 Xserve >> hardware is X years old: 4 years >> apache version.........: Apache 2.0.55 (iTools 8.0.5) >> WebDNA version.........: 6.0a (whatever the last patch was...) >> approx. size of WebDNA bases in RAM: 2 megs ? >> RAM size...............: 2 GB >> >> crashes randomly.......: ? >> crashes every X hours..: 72 hrs? >> Is there a backup system? Yes >> Any other application running on the same box? No >> UPS....................: Yes >> --------------------------------- >> >> The logs are chock-full of >> "www WebDNA[23572]: Could not establish connection with the module." >> >> I truly hope that these server instability issues are at the top of your >> priority list, and that you have gathered the resources to deal with, >> what I >> see as an impending fatal flaw of WebDNA. Until you get this handled, >> any >> efforts on new features or marketing will be as effective as >> rearranging the >> deck chairs on the Titanic. >> >> "...can't hold on much longer." >> >> Truly concerned, >> -Chris > > > Chris, > You are running configurations that are not supported with the > current WebDNA installers. > > Apache 2.0.55 and iTools 8.x are not supported. > > Again, I understand the frustration involved with server problems.. and, > it goes without saying, that our intention is to release a new patch that > is fully tested with the newer configurations (Apache 2.x and the latest > iTools). > > But let me be clear. It is a *futile* effort for me, or anyone else to > troubleshoot a server that is running unsupported configurations. > *Everyone* > that has reported problems on this new list, and that has given > server details, so far has been running something unsupported. Hell, > I don't blame you guys. I want to run new configurations/tools as well. > However, the trade-off is that you then have no base for pointing > the finger of blame. > > I installed another 6.0a a few weeks ago on another older iMac G4 running > all supported configurations, and it is running perfectly. I suggest > everyone that is having problems, for the time being, do that as well. > It may not get rid of all your problems, but it is the base you must > build on right now, and people on the list will feel better about > helping out. > > I also want to expose that I am not getting paid with my new title of > VP... not yet at least! I take time away from my paying clients (which > they certainly don't like, and my family certainly doesn't like) to > try and help because I want to see this language survive and the > WebDNA community grow. I am a WebDNA believer so to speak... I've > drank the cool-ade and like it. ;-) > > So, I say, we all know where WebDNA is at in its current state and > where it *was* heading before WSC acquired it. Lets stay positive. > Run supported configurations if you can and give the product a > little time to catch up to modern day. > > Also, a reminder that you guys can help as well! Send me an email > noting your interest! > > > Donovan > > > > -- Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media Creating Your Success Story Marketing : Television - Internet - Print Phone: (877) 443-1323 Email: jym@purposemedia.com Web: www.purposemedia.com Oregon Office - www.GuideToOregon.com PO Box 1725, Jacksonville, OR 97530 California Office - www.OrangeCounty.net PO Box 2025, Capistrano Beach, CA 92624
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AGAIN - three cheers!! for your part in rebirthing WebDNA! Hang in there ( I can personally relate to so many hats and task overload - been there a lot!) I feel this language is the best and will pledge my help where possible I am trying to find time in very near future to help out, and I am sure others are too. And yes - anyone that is running systems beyond supported levels....try to run at supported levels - or try a test on on older platform to confirm. our system runs fine until some bad bot hits bad code. neither are webDNA issues. have not had a regular crashing issue, but if i did i would try to move a few sites to a simpler setup (maybe one at a time) and isolate the issue that way. jym Donovan Brooke wrote: > Chris Wilkinson wrote: >> Yes, the errors are intermittent. Yes the code, and case is correct. >> >> Seriously, the system can't even find it's own admin files!!! I tried >> to log >> in to the admin and got: >> >> " Error: template >> 'CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/Admin/Welcome.tpl' not >> found" >> >> >> Details: >> OS.....................: Mac OSX 10.3.9 >> hardware...............: G4 Xserve >> hardware is X years old: 4 years >> apache version.........: Apache 2.0.55 (iTools 8.0.5) >> WebDNA version.........: 6.0a (whatever the last patch was...) >> approx. size of WebDNA bases in RAM: 2 megs ? >> RAM size...............: 2 GB >> >> crashes randomly.......: ? >> crashes every X hours..: 72 hrs? >> Is there a backup system? Yes >> Any other application running on the same box? No >> UPS....................: Yes >> --------------------------------- >> >> The logs are chock-full of >> "www WebDNA[23572]: Could not establish connection with the module." >> >> I truly hope that these server instability issues are at the top of your >> priority list, and that you have gathered the resources to deal with, >> what I >> see as an impending fatal flaw of WebDNA. Until you get this handled, >> any >> efforts on new features or marketing will be as effective as >> rearranging the >> deck chairs on the Titanic. >> >> "...can't hold on much longer." >> >> Truly concerned, >> -Chris > > > Chris, > You are running configurations that are not supported with the > current WebDNA installers. > > Apache 2.0.55 and iTools 8.x are not supported. > > Again, I understand the frustration involved with server problems.. and, > it goes without saying, that our intention is to release a new patch that > is fully tested with the newer configurations (Apache 2.x and the latest > iTools). > > But let me be clear. It is a *futile* effort for me, or anyone else to > troubleshoot a server that is running unsupported configurations. > *Everyone* > that has reported problems on this new list, and that has given > server details, so far has been running something unsupported. Hell, > I don't blame you guys. I want to run new configurations/tools as well. > However, the trade-off is that you then have no base for pointing > the finger of blame. > > I installed another 6.0a a few weeks ago on another older iMac G4 running > all supported configurations, and it is running perfectly. I suggest > everyone that is having problems, for the time being, do that as well. > It may not get rid of all your problems, but it is the base you must > build on right now, and people on the list will feel better about > helping out. > > I also want to expose that I am not getting paid with my new title of > VP... not yet at least! I take time away from my paying clients (which > they certainly don't like, and my family certainly doesn't like) to > try and help because I want to see this language survive and the > WebDNA community grow. I am a WebDNA believer so to speak... I've > drank the cool-ade and like it. ;-) > > So, I say, we all know where WebDNA is at in its current state and > where it *was* heading before WSC acquired it. Lets stay positive. > Run supported configurations if you can and give the product a > little time to catch up to modern day. > > Also, a reminder that you guys can help as well! Send me an email > noting your interest! > > > Donovan > > > > -- Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media Creating Your Success Story Marketing : Television - Internet - Print Phone: (877) 443-1323 Email: jym@purposemedia.com Web: www.purposemedia.com Oregon Office - www.GuideToOregon.com PO Box 1725, Jacksonville, OR 97530 California Office - www.OrangeCounty.net PO Box 2025, Capistrano Beach, CA 92624
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