Re: [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA
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texte = There is probably a place for developers to sell their own packages through WebDNA corp once you get up to speed :)RegardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.auOn 03/02/2009, at 9:26 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote:> Stuart Tremain wrote:>> I think that the WebDNA CMS would be far far more usable product if >> it had have been written by one of the wonderful developers that we >> have in our community rather than someone at SMSI and put it into a >> lesser version than Enterprise where most owners of WebDNA could >> use it more effectively.>>> There is nothing stopping the community from developing such a thing.>>>> We rebuilt much of the code in the CMS templates a few years ago in >> an attempt to make it more of a saleable product, during this I >> found some of the code/concepts needed a bit more polish than it >> was originally given. We still had problems selling the concept : >> ( Customers preferring our other CMS products.>>> You rebuilt encrypted templates? ;-)>>>> It has its place but being in the Enterprise edition I think is a >> bit of an overkill, put it in the ecommerce edition and it would >> get far greater exposure and could well lead to new users adopting >> the WebDNA platform.>> I wonder, has anyone used the CMS in a commercial environment, I >> would love to see what you have done. My guess is that it is not in >> use anywhere as I have never seen any discussion about it on "The >> List">> Regards>> Stuart Tremain>> IDFK Web Developments>> AUSTRALIA>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>> These are all features that SMSI was last working on before "the great> abyss". They were never really advertised or pressed. It was also > expensive back then to acquire them. I would not be> surprised if not many people have it in use. I'm not sure what> edited templates you marketed, but I would not be surprised if this> kind of thing wasn't used in mass either. It is, by nature, a limited> use product.>> I haven't used it myself, though I never had the > $5K at that time, > which was the entry level price, to be able to use it.> Upon re-introducing the product into the marketplace, we reduced the > price by almost a SIXTH of it's previous cost. This was not an easy> decision to make after writing the check to acquire the intellectual> property! But, we knew you all would appreciate it, so we went forward> with it. ;-)>> As far as it's validity goes, yes, it *does* have it's place and I> have been thinking of how I may use it today. I think my> forum will be the first of my projects to find a home in a> WebDNA CMS. This will give me a chance to become more familiar with> it, and it will provide a service that is needed for my forum > development. From there, I may start to use it with some of the more > complicated client sites that I have, and I may open up some open > source projects for the community with it. I would be happy to> make one of those open source projects a community CMS!. (confusing> I know... A CMS housing a CMS! ;-)>> WebDNA's CMS is not for everyone, and it's use is limited to sites > that need that extra assurance that their code and development is > secure.> Leaving it in it's own edition is good for this reason. It makes the> commerce edition more affordable by not including things that many> people will not necessarily need. At the same time, it is easy and> affordable to upgrade licenses if they do decide they need it later.>> Donovan>>>> -- > Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822> ------------------------------------------------> VP> WebDNA Software Corporation> 16192 Coastal Highway> Lewes, DE 19958> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list
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There is probably a place for developers to sell their own packages through WebDNA corp once you get up to speed :)RegardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.auOn 03/02/2009, at 9:26 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote:> Stuart Tremain wrote:>> I think that the WebDNA CMS would be far far more usable product if >> it had have been written by one of the wonderful developers that we >> have in our community rather than someone at SMSI and put it into a >> lesser version than Enterprise where most owners of WebDNA could >> use it more effectively.>>> There is nothing stopping the community from developing such a thing.>>>> We rebuilt much of the code in the CMS templates a few years ago in >> an attempt to make it more of a saleable product, during this I >> found some of the code/concepts needed a bit more polish than it >> was originally given. We still had problems selling the concept : >> ( Customers preferring our other CMS products.>>> You rebuilt encrypted templates? ;-)>>>> It has its place but being in the Enterprise edition I think is a >> bit of an overkill, put it in the ecommerce edition and it would >> get far greater exposure and could well lead to new users adopting >> the WebDNA platform.>> I wonder, has anyone used the CMS in a commercial environment, I >> would love to see what you have done. My guess is that it is not in >> use anywhere as I have never seen any discussion about it on "The >> List">> Regards>> Stuart Tremain>> IDFK Web Developments>> AUSTRALIA>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>> These are all features that SMSI was last working on before "the great> abyss". They were never really advertised or pressed. It was also > expensive back then to acquire them. I would not be> surprised if not many people have it in use. I'm not sure what> edited templates you marketed, but I would not be surprised if this> kind of thing wasn't used in mass either. It is, by nature, a limited> use product.>> I haven't used it myself, though I never had the > $5K at that time, > which was the entry level price, to be able to use it.> Upon re-introducing the product into the marketplace, we reduced the > price by almost a SIXTH of it's previous cost. This was not an easy> decision to make after writing the check to acquire the intellectual> property! But, we knew you all would appreciate it, so we went forward> with it. ;-)>> As far as it's validity goes, yes, it *does* have it's place and I> have been thinking of how I may use it today. I think my> forum will be the first of my projects to find a home in a> WebDNA CMS. This will give me a chance to become more familiar with> it, and it will provide a service that is needed for my forum > development. From there, I may start to use it with some of the more > complicated client sites that I have, and I may open up some open > source projects for the community with it. I would be happy to> make one of those open source projects a community CMS!. (confusing> I know... A CMS housing a CMS! ;-)>> WebDNA's CMS is not for everyone, and it's use is limited to sites > that need that extra assurance that their code and development is > secure.> Leaving it in it's own edition is good for this reason. It makes the> commerce edition more affordable by not including things that many> people will not necessarily need. At the same time, it is easy and> affordable to upgrade licenses if they do decide they need it later.>> Donovan>>>> -- > Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822> ------------------------------------------------> VP> WebDNA Software Corporation> 16192 Coastal Highway> Lewes, DE 19958> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/
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