Re: [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA

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2009


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texte = There is probably a place for developers to sell their own packages through WebDNA corp once you get up to speed :) Regards Stuart Tremain IDFK Web Developments AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au On 03/02/2009, at 9:26 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > Stuart Tremain wrote: >> I think that the WebDNA CMS would be far far more usable product if >> it had have been written by one of the wonderful developers that we >> have in our community rather than someone at SMSI and put it into a >> lesser version than Enterprise where most owners of WebDNA could >> use it more effectively. > > > There is nothing stopping the community from developing such a thing. > > >> We rebuilt much of the code in the CMS templates a few years ago in >> an attempt to make it more of a saleable product, during this I >> found some of the code/concepts needed a bit more polish than it >> was originally given. We still had problems selling the concept : >> ( Customers preferring our other CMS products. > > > You rebuilt encrypted templates? ;-) > > >> It has its place but being in the Enterprise edition I think is a >> bit of an overkill, put it in the ecommerce edition and it would >> get far greater exposure and could well lead to new users adopting >> the WebDNA platform. >> I wonder, has anyone used the CMS in a commercial environment, I >> would love to see what you have done. My guess is that it is not in >> use anywhere as I have never seen any discussion about it on "The >> List" >> Regards >> Stuart Tremain >> IDFK Web Developments >> AUSTRALIA >> webdna@idfk.com.au > > > These are all features that SMSI was last working on before "the great > abyss". They were never really advertised or pressed. It was also > expensive back then to acquire them. I would not be > surprised if not many people have it in use. I'm not sure what > edited templates you marketed, but I would not be surprised if this > kind of thing wasn't used in mass either. It is, by nature, a limited > use product. > > I haven't used it myself, though I never had the > $5K at that time, > which was the entry level price, to be able to use it. > Upon re-introducing the product into the marketplace, we reduced the > price by almost a SIXTH of it's previous cost. This was not an easy > decision to make after writing the check to acquire the intellectual > property! But, we knew you all would appreciate it, so we went forward > with it. ;-) > > As far as it's validity goes, yes, it *does* have it's place and I > have been thinking of how I may use it today. I think my > forum will be the first of my projects to find a home in a > WebDNA CMS. This will give me a chance to become more familiar with > it, and it will provide a service that is needed for my forum > development. From there, I may start to use it with some of the more > complicated client sites that I have, and I may open up some open > source projects for the community with it. I would be happy to > make one of those open source projects a community CMS!. (confusing > I know... A CMS housing a CMS! ;-) > > WebDNA's CMS is not for everyone, and it's use is limited to sites > that need that extra assurance that their code and development is > secure. > Leaving it in it's own edition is good for this reason. It makes the > commerce edition more affordable by not including things that many > people will not necessarily need. At the same time, it is easy and > affordable to upgrade licenses if they do decide they need it later. > > Donovan > > > > -- > Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 > ------------------------------------------------ > VP > WebDNA Software Corporation > 16192 Coastal Highway > Lewes, DE 19958 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA (Stuart Tremain 2009)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA (Donovan Brooke 2009)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA (Stuart Tremain 2009)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA (Donovan Brooke 2009)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA ("Dan Strong" 2009)
  6. RE: [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA ("Michael A. DeLorenzo" 2009)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA (Donovan Brooke 2009)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA (Donovan Brooke 2009)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA (Donovan Brooke 2009)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA (Bert 2009)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA (Stuart Tremain 2009)
  12. [WebDNA] CMS in WEBDNA (lawrence@authorsimage.com 2009)
There is probably a place for developers to sell their own packages through WebDNA corp once you get up to speed :) Regards Stuart Tremain IDFK Web Developments AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au On 03/02/2009, at 9:26 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > Stuart Tremain wrote: >> I think that the WebDNA CMS would be far far more usable product if >> it had have been written by one of the wonderful developers that we >> have in our community rather than someone at SMSI and put it into a >> lesser version than Enterprise where most owners of WebDNA could >> use it more effectively. > > > There is nothing stopping the community from developing such a thing. > > >> We rebuilt much of the code in the CMS templates a few years ago in >> an attempt to make it more of a saleable product, during this I >> found some of the code/concepts needed a bit more polish than it >> was originally given. We still had problems selling the concept : >> ( Customers preferring our other CMS products. > > > You rebuilt encrypted templates? ;-) > > >> It has its place but being in the Enterprise edition I think is a >> bit of an overkill, put it in the ecommerce edition and it would >> get far greater exposure and could well lead to new users adopting >> the WebDNA platform. >> I wonder, has anyone used the CMS in a commercial environment, I >> would love to see what you have done. My guess is that it is not in >> use anywhere as I have never seen any discussion about it on "The >> List" >> Regards >> Stuart Tremain >> IDFK Web Developments >> AUSTRALIA >> webdna@idfk.com.au > > > These are all features that SMSI was last working on before "the great > abyss". They were never really advertised or pressed. It was also > expensive back then to acquire them. I would not be > surprised if not many people have it in use. I'm not sure what > edited templates you marketed, but I would not be surprised if this > kind of thing wasn't used in mass either. It is, by nature, a limited > use product. > > I haven't used it myself, though I never had the > $5K at that time, > which was the entry level price, to be able to use it. > Upon re-introducing the product into the marketplace, we reduced the > price by almost a SIXTH of it's previous cost. This was not an easy > decision to make after writing the check to acquire the intellectual > property! But, we knew you all would appreciate it, so we went forward > with it. ;-) > > As far as it's validity goes, yes, it *does* have it's place and I > have been thinking of how I may use it today. I think my > forum will be the first of my projects to find a home in a > WebDNA CMS. This will give me a chance to become more familiar with > it, and it will provide a service that is needed for my forum > development. From there, I may start to use it with some of the more > complicated client sites that I have, and I may open up some open > source projects for the community with it. I would be happy to > make one of those open source projects a community CMS!. (confusing > I know... A CMS housing a CMS! ;-) > > WebDNA's CMS is not for everyone, and it's use is limited to sites > that need that extra assurance that their code and development is > secure. > Leaving it in it's own edition is good for this reason. It makes the > commerce edition more affordable by not including things that many > people will not necessarily need. At the same time, it is easy and > affordable to upgrade licenses if they do decide they need it later. > > Donovan > > > > -- > Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 > ------------------------------------------------ > VP > WebDNA Software Corporation > 16192 Coastal Highway > Lewes, DE 19958 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ Stuart Tremain

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