Re: [WebDNA] Limits?
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2009
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texte = On Apr 7, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi wrote: > The WebDNA talk list is not a forum for your personal vendetta. But > I think I need to reply. no, it is a place to discuss problems, webDNA issues, AND facts. > > Everyone loses customers. When someone loses, someone else needs > to gain. This is a fact of life for every business owner. > > It is true that you could not get your scripts working again on my > server after I installed the j2sdk1.4.2 build. Do you remember > telling me that your scripts were programmed for 1.4.2? When in > fact I discovered that the jre zip you gave me to install was > actually a custom compile by someone at SMSI. it was not compiled by SMSI, it was created by another programmer on this list. > I worked with you for weeks in an honest effort, please, don't flatter yourself, you did not. > and I even tried to compile the java build for you. you LOCKED me out of the server. > > But no matter how much I worked through it, followed your > directions working at all hours of the night, your WebDNA code, and > the sandbox scripts you gave me were unable to properly call the > java you had previously implemented. you WOULD NOT set it up correctly. > > I always assumed that we were missing something important that SMSI > never told you about. Perhaps not just a custom java compile, but > maybe a custom WebCatalogEngine compile too. nope, i had the code, and scripts fully operational and serving, according to specs, on BOTH my x-serve, AND the linux box at SMSI. > So in the end when you could not solve the problem and get your own > code working again on a new server, I had to come up with another > way to do it. Did you even offer them a second solution? you are really delusional... you LOCKED me out of the server. > > When your code does not work do you typically blame someone else? like i said, i had this code running on multi-platform - MAC OS X & LINUX. > > A few months later the customer in question asked you for a quote > for a totally new website, and they asked me for a quote. yes, they did, because after you had locked me out of the server, i was no longer able to maintain their site. (*Note this very clever business practice) > They requested a formal presentation, and they wanted to meet the > other 2 people on my staff that would be handling their account. I > do not know the merits of why they chose my company over yours. > My CMS's are called Psiclopedia eBusiness and Psiclopedia Junior. > Not a single ounce of code was stolen from you because you do not > work in the jewelry industry. My CMSs are designed for retail > jewelry stores and I have documented historical proof that the > systems are mine dating back to 1998. For the customer in question > I had to chop out a lot of jewelry related stuff that they didn't > need. > > Since I save all emails, if anyone would like to review the > accusations and the time period in question from January 2007, they > are welcome to do so. I will gladly provide documentation without > prejudice against myself or Rupert, and then any outsider can > decide for themselves. bottom line is, you were given open code. if that code was encrypted, this dialog would be moot. so THERE is the lesson for the list. when someone else hosts your client's site - ALWAYS ENCRYPT! > > > Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com > ------------------------------by Psi Prime------- > Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 > Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 > Service: 973.413.8213 > Training: 973.413.8214 > Fax: 973.413.8217 > > http://www.jewelerwebsites.com > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc > http://www.psiprime.com > > > > rupert ravens wrote: >> >> On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi wrote: >> >>> Donovan you might remember from our telephone conversations from >>> Spring 2007 that I've been pushing the limits for many years now. >>> >>> I see no reason to migrate anything if it's not broken. Unless >>> you tell me WSC is officially advising it. >>> I have 2 CMS systems that use the RAM databases. They are >>> totally rock solid in their design and functionality. >> >> oh yeah, those 2 CMS totally ROCK in design!! >> >> could one of them possibly be one that i designed, which you >> obtained from both my former client and me, when we turned our >> open code over for you to HOST their website? >> >> why don't you tell this entire list HOW you stole a client from a >> webDNA developer whose customer hosted with you? >> >> hey matthew, remember these words? >> >> "oh, i don't know how to set up my linux server correctly to >> implement JAVA .jar files, so your client's site which you >> developed to create PDFs on the fly, can no longer utilize a >> solution by JVV, because i can't get it to work" >> >> now, what did you tell my client? >> >> "dear potential customer, i have a way where Psi Slime solutions >> will work BETTER, AND i can have your website UP AND WORKING >> without the need of your old developer, in fact, you no longer >> need his services. >> >> Psi Slime can take care of everything for you" >> >> then, you systematically cut me off from having admin server >> access to resolve or help you with server set up. (very clever you >> think) >> >> the final straw, you propose to my client that you have a cheaper, >> more viable solution to get their website working again - WOW, YOU >> ARE THEIR SAVIOR! >> >> let's just let Psi Slime take care of OUR whole website, >> development AND maintenance, THEY ARE SO GREAT... >> >> you are deceitful untrustworthy slime! >> >> i have held my tongue for a long time. >> >> now, i no longer can... >> >> everyone on this list should be aware of the underhanded >> practices of you and your company. >> >>> >>> Sometimes I log into the WebCatalog admin screen and keep >>> refreshing the Show Database page just to watch how all the DBs >>> are loading and flushing. I find it quite amazing. The >>> information I have learned by watching that screen has helped me >>> design more efficient code and relational databases, as well as >>> help me identify which customers are resource hogs who I can >>> charge higher hosting fees to :-) >>>> I suppose if I were you, I would start thinking about migrating >>>> one or two of your largest databases to MySQL and using WebDNA's >>>> newer SQL contexts to access them. However, if you wanted to be >>>> brave and continue.. it sounds like you are one of the rare cases >>>> where our new 64bit build, along with more RAM, may help your >>>> situation. (If you are on a linux machine) >>> Thank God for the safe write setting. That's what made my light >>> bulb go on when troubleshooting because of the time stamp of >>> the .TMP file. >>>> P.S. the .TMP file is created because you have "safe write" turned >>>> on in your prefs. >>> >>> Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com >>> ------------------------------by Psi Prime------- >>> Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. >>> Totowa, NJ 07512 >>> Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 >>> Service: 973.413.8213 >>> Training: 973.413.8214 >>> Fax: 973.413.8217 >>> >>> http://www.jewelerwebsites.com >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc >>> http://www.psiprime.com >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list
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On Apr 7, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi wrote: > The WebDNA Talk List is not a forum for your personal vendetta. But > I think I need to reply. no, it is a place to discuss problems, webDNA issues, AND facts. > > Everyone loses customers. When someone loses, someone else needs > to gain. This is a fact of life for every business owner. > > It is true that you could not get your scripts working again on my > server after I installed the j2sdk1.4.2 build. Do you remember > telling me that your scripts were programmed for 1.4.2? When in > fact I discovered that the jre zip you gave me to install was > actually a custom compile by someone at SMSI. it was not compiled by SMSI, it was created by another programmer on this list. > I worked with you for weeks in an honest effort, please, don't flatter yourself, you did not. > and I even tried to compile the java build for you. you LOCKED me out of the server. > > But no matter how much I worked through it, followed your > directions working at all hours of the night, your WebDNA code, and > the sandbox scripts you gave me were unable to properly call the > java you had previously implemented. you WOULD NOT set it up correctly. > > I always assumed that we were missing something important that SMSI > never told you about. Perhaps not just a custom java compile, but > maybe a custom WebCatalogEngine compile too. nope, i had the code, and scripts fully operational and serving, according to specs, on BOTH my x-serve, AND the linux box at SMSI. > So in the end when you could not solve the problem and get your own > code working again on a new server, I had to come up with another > way to do it. Did you even offer them a second solution? you are really delusional... you LOCKED me out of the server. > > When your code does not work do you typically blame someone else? like i said, i had this code running on multi-platform - MAC OS X & LINUX. > > A few months later the customer in question asked you for a quote > for a totally new website, and they asked me for a quote. yes, they did, because after you had locked me out of the server, i was no longer able to maintain their site. (*Note this very clever business practice) > They requested a formal presentation, and they wanted to meet the > other 2 people on my staff that would be handling their account. I > do not know the merits of why they chose my company over yours. > My CMS's are called Psiclopedia eBusiness and Psiclopedia Junior. > Not a single ounce of code was stolen from you because you do not > work in the jewelry industry. My CMSs are designed for retail > jewelry stores and I have documented historical proof that the > systems are mine dating back to 1998. For the customer in question > I had to chop out a lot of jewelry related stuff that they didn't > need. > > Since I save all emails, if anyone would like to review the > accusations and the time period in question from January 2007, they > are welcome to do so. I will gladly provide documentation without > prejudice against myself or Rupert, and then any outsider can > decide for themselves. bottom line is, you were given open code. if that code was encrypted, this dialog would be moot. so THERE is the lesson for the list. when someone else hosts your client's site - ALWAYS ENCRYPT! > > > Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com > ------------------------------by Psi Prime------- > Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 > Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 > Service: 973.413.8213 > Training: 973.413.8214 > Fax: 973.413.8217 > > http://www.jewelerwebsites.com > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc > http://www.psiprime.com > > > > rupert ravens wrote: >> >> On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi wrote: >> >>> Donovan you might remember from our telephone conversations from >>> Spring 2007 that I've been pushing the limits for many years now. >>> >>> I see no reason to migrate anything if it's not broken. Unless >>> you tell me WSC is officially advising it. >>> I have 2 CMS systems that use the RAM databases. They are >>> totally rock solid in their design and functionality. >> >> oh yeah, those 2 CMS totally ROCK in design!! >> >> could one of them possibly be one that i designed, which you >> obtained from both my former client and me, when we turned our >> open code over for you to HOST their website? >> >> why don't you tell this entire list HOW you stole a client from a >> webDNA developer whose customer hosted with you? >> >> hey matthew, remember these words? >> >> "oh, i don't know how to set up my linux server correctly to >> implement JAVA .jar files, so your client's site which you >> developed to create PDFs on the fly, can no longer utilize a >> solution by JVV, because i can't get it to work" >> >> now, what did you tell my client? >> >> "dear potential customer, i have a way where Psi Slime solutions >> will work BETTER, AND i can have your website UP AND WORKING >> without the need of your old developer, in fact, you no longer >> need his services. >> >> Psi Slime can take care of everything for you" >> >> then, you systematically cut me off from having admin server >> access to resolve or help you with server set up. (very clever you >> think) >> >> the final straw, you propose to my client that you have a cheaper, >> more viable solution to get their website working again - WOW, YOU >> ARE THEIR SAVIOR! >> >> let's just let Psi Slime take care of OUR whole website, >> development AND maintenance, THEY ARE SO GREAT... >> >> you are deceitful untrustworthy slime! >> >> i have held my tongue for a long time. >> >> now, i no longer can... >> >> everyone on this list should be aware of the underhanded >> practices of you and your company. >> >>> >>> Sometimes I log into the WebCatalog admin screen and keep >>> refreshing the Show Database page just to watch how all the DBs >>> are loading and flushing. I find it quite amazing. The >>> information I have learned by watching that screen has helped me >>> design more efficient code and relational databases, as well as >>> help me identify which customers are resource hogs who I can >>> charge higher hosting fees to :-) >>>> I suppose if I were you, I would start thinking about migrating >>>> one or two of your largest databases to MySQL and using WebDNA's >>>> newer SQL contexts to access them. However, if you wanted to be >>>> brave and continue.. it sounds like you are one of the rare cases >>>> where our new 64bit build, along with more RAM, may help your >>>> situation. (If you are on a linux machine) >>> Thank God for the safe write setting. That's what made my light >>> bulb go on when troubleshooting because of the time stamp of >>> the .TMP file. >>>> P.S. the .TMP file is created because you have "safe write" turned >>>> on in your prefs. >>> >>> Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com >>> ------------------------------by Psi Prime------- >>> Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. >>> Totowa, NJ 07512 >>> Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 >>> Service: 973.413.8213 >>> Training: 973.413.8214 >>> Fax: 973.413.8217 >>> >>> http://www.jewelerwebsites.com >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc >>> http://www.psiprime.com >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >
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