Re: [WebDNA] fastcgi 7+ & [cart]?
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texte = This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010804050606000000080209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i think after reading all the comments that the new direction is good. we wil stay on 6.2, and then work to rebuild what we need to move forward. much of our system was external but the lineitems and cart and formulas are helpful. all this has to compete with systems taht are so easy and plug and play already - so spending our linited rsources rebuilding unexpectedly is what hurts. jym Jym Duane wrote: > We had also build sophisticated systems in addition to and around that > platform. > now we need to replace the core. > > We do not use the store builder and we do most of our own functions > relating to > e- commerce. i think we calculate our own shipping and sometimes taxes > etc. > > but we certainly use the cart to create the cart databases. > to do line item totals etc etc. > we use the functions in the formulas often > and the cart related comments to read those databases. > to do the and the system sweeps those databases away. > > I am not altogether sure what other functions from the e commerce part > we use the built in application for. > > I can see replacing those with manually generated databases. > > Is there some summary of what the cart commands that will be removed are? > and then we need to determine what they all do and the cart itself > does so that we can replace those with something new. > > With the sand shifteng around our feet here and also on teh credit > cart requiremenst it seems like it may be time to consider other > simpler packaged solutions. > > maybe that was why Donovan left. > > jym > > > christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >> The 6.2 module is still downloadable and will remain available online. Version 7.0 allows to create your own shopping cart system, in a much more modern way (databases). The SiteBuilder is just an application that was voluntarily relying on some extra tags to be able to charge more money to the customer (Commerce Edition License). Many of us built sophisticated shopping cart system without using anything from the Commerce Edition. We do not want to support this application since we believe WSC should improve WebDNA as a language and a language only, and the applications should only fall within the competence of WebDNA users... >> >> - chris >> >> >> >> On Jul 5, 2010, at 18:52, Jym Duane wrote: >> >> >>> so there will be no shopping cart files or functions? >>> >>> is this just on the fast cgi? >>> >>> or >>> >>> on the other server editions also? >>> >>> jym >>> >>> christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >>> >>>> The plan was to deprecate all the eCommerce tags, but due to several requests, we will probably keep [cart] tag since it is the only way to create a unique value with a simple tag, and [validcard] as well since it provides a simple way to see if a credit card is valid. Version 7 will keep all the commerce tags activated, but undocumented. Version 8 should only keep [cart] and [validcard] tags using another name (suggestions welcomed). >>>> >>>> - chris >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 5, 2010, at 18:14, Govinda wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> WSC said they had (or will?) remove all the commerce tags from webdna 7+. >>>>> Does that include [cart]? >>>>> Seems to be still working. But I do not want to rely on it (as I always have) in case the plan is to drop it later. >>>>> >>>>> (Here I am not asking about the old shopping cart file, but just the unique-string-generation function performed by an instance of the literal "[cart]".) >>>>> >>>>> WSC, Please advise. >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Govinda >>>>> >>>>> govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list >>>>>
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we wil stay on 6.2, and then work to rebuild what we need to move forward.
much of our system was external but the lineitems and cart and formulas are helpful.
all this has to compete with systems taht are so easy and plug and play already - so spending our linited rsources rebuilding unexpectedly is what hurts.
jym
Jym Duane wrote: We had also build sophisticated systems in addition to and around that platform.
now we need to replace the core.
We do not use the store builder and we do most of our own functions relating to
e- commerce. i think we calculate our own shipping and sometimes taxes etc.
but we certainly use the cart to create the cart databases.
to do line item totals etc etc.
we use the functions in the formulas often
and the cart related comments to read those databases.
to do the and the system sweeps those databases away.
I am not altogether sure what other functions from the e commerce part we use the built in application for.
I can see replacing those with manually generated databases.
Is there some summary of what the cart commands that will be removed are?
and then we need to determine what they all do and the cart itself does so that we can replace those with something new.
With the sand shifteng around our feet here and also on teh credit cart requiremenst it seems like it may be time to consider other simpler packaged solutions.
maybe that was why Donovan left.
jym
christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: The 6.2 module is still downloadable and will remain available online. Version 7.0 allows to create your own shopping cart system, in a much more modern way (databases). The SiteBuilder is just an application that was voluntarily relying on some extra tags to be able to charge more money to the customer (Commerce Edition License). Many of us built sophisticated shopping cart system without using anything from the Commerce Edition. We do not want to support this application since we believe WSC should improve WebDNA as a language and a language only, and the applications should only fall within the competence of WebDNA users... - chris On Jul 5, 2010, at 18:52, Jym Duane wrote:
so there will be no shopping cart files or functions? is this just on the fast cgi? or on the other server editions also? jym christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:
The plan was to deprecate all the eCommerce tags, but due to several requests, we will probably keep [cart] tag since it is the only way to create a unique value with a simple tag, and [validcard] as well since it provides a simple way to see if a credit card is valid. Version 7 will keep all the commerce tags activated, but undocumented. Version 8 should only keep [cart] and [validcard] tags using another name (suggestions welcomed). - chris On Jul 5, 2010, at 18:14, Govinda wrote:
WSC said they had (or will?) remove all the commerce tags from webdna 7+. Does that include [cart]? Seems to be still working. But I do not want to rely on it (as I always have) in case the plan is to drop it later. (Here I am not asking about the old shopping cart file, but just the unique-string-generation function performed by an instance of the literal "[cart]".) WSC, Please advise. Thanks! ------------ Govinda govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list <talk@webdna.us> . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <talk-leave@webdna.us> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010804050606000000080209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i think after reading all the comments that the new direction is good. we wil stay on 6.2, and then work to rebuild what we need to move forward. much of our system was external but the lineitems and cart and formulas are helpful. all this has to compete with systems taht are so easy and plug and play already - so spending our linited rsources rebuilding unexpectedly is what hurts. jym Jym Duane wrote: > We had also build sophisticated systems in addition to and around that > platform. > now we need to replace the core. > > We do not use the store builder and we do most of our own functions > relating to > e- commerce. i think we calculate our own shipping and sometimes taxes > etc. > > but we certainly use the cart to create the cart databases. > to do line item totals etc etc. > we use the functions in the formulas often > and the cart related comments to read those databases. > to do the and the system sweeps those databases away. > > I am not altogether sure what other functions from the e commerce part > we use the built in application for. > > I can see replacing those with manually generated databases. > > Is there some summary of what the cart commands that will be removed are? > and then we need to determine what they all do and the cart itself > does so that we can replace those with something new. > > With the sand shifteng around our feet here and also on teh credit > cart requiremenst it seems like it may be time to consider other > simpler packaged solutions. > > maybe that was why Donovan left. > > jym > > > christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >> The 6.2 module is still downloadable and will remain available online. Version 7.0 allows to create your own shopping cart system, in a much more modern way (databases). The SiteBuilder is just an application that was voluntarily relying on some extra tags to be able to charge more money to the customer (Commerce Edition License). Many of us built sophisticated shopping cart system without using anything from the Commerce Edition. We do not want to support this application since we believe WSC should improve WebDNA as a language and a language only, and the applications should only fall within the competence of WebDNA users... >> >> - chris >> >> >> >> On Jul 5, 2010, at 18:52, Jym Duane wrote: >> >> >>> so there will be no shopping cart files or functions? >>> >>> is this just on the fast cgi? >>> >>> or >>> >>> on the other server editions also? >>> >>> jym >>> >>> christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >>> >>>> The plan was to deprecate all the eCommerce tags, but due to several requests, we will probably keep [cart] tag since it is the only way to create a unique value with a simple tag, and [validcard] as well since it provides a simple way to see if a credit card is valid. Version 7 will keep all the commerce tags activated, but undocumented. Version 8 should only keep [cart] and [validcard] tags using another name (suggestions welcomed). >>>> >>>> - chris >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 5, 2010, at 18:14, Govinda wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> WSC said they had (or will?) remove all the commerce tags from webdna 7+. >>>>> Does that include [cart]? >>>>> Seems to be still working. But I do not want to rely on it (as I always have) in case the plan is to drop it later. >>>>> >>>>> (Here I am not asking about the old shopping cart file, but just the unique-string-generation function performed by an instance of the literal "[cart]".) >>>>> >>>>> WSC, Please advise. >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Govinda >>>>> >>>>> govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list >>>>> >>>>> . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> archives: >>>>> http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> >>>>> Bug Reporting: >>>>> support@webdna.us >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list >>>> >>>> . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> >>>> >>>> archives: >>>> http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> >>>> Bug Reporting: >>>> support@webdna.us >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media >>> Creating Your Success Story >>> Marketing : Television - Internet - Print >>> >>> Phone: (877) 443-1323 >>> Email: jym@purposemedia.com >>> Web: www.purposemedia.com >>> >>> Oregon - www.GuideToOregon.com >>> PO Box 1725, Jacksonville, OR 97530 >>> >>> California - www.OrangeCounty.net >>> PO Box 2025, Capistrano Beach, CA 92624 >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >> >> > > -- > > > Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media > > Creating Your Success Story > > Marketing : Television - Internet - Print > > > Phone: (877) 443-1323 > > Email: jym@purposemedia.com > > Web: www.purposemedia.com > > > Oregon - www.GuideToOregon.com > > PO Box 1725, Jacksonville, OR 97530 > > > California - www.OrangeCounty.net > > PO Box 2025, Capistrano Beach, CA 92624 > -- Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media Creating Your Success Story Marketing : Television - Internet - Print Phone: (877) 443-1323 Email: jym@purposemedia.com Web: www.purposemedia.com Oregon - www.GuideToOregon.com PO Box 1725, Jacksonville, OR 97530 California - www.OrangeCounty.net PO Box 2025, Capistrano Beach, CA 92624 --------------010804050606000000080209 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i think after reading all the comments that the new direction is good.
we wil stay on 6.2, and then work to rebuild what we need to move forward.
much of our system was external but the lineitems and cart and formulas are helpful.
all this has to compete with systems taht are so easy and plug and play already - so spending our linited rsources rebuilding unexpectedly is what hurts.
jym
Jym Duane wrote: We had also build sophisticated systems in addition to and around that platform.
now we need to replace the core.
We do not use the store builder and we do most of our own functions relating to
e- commerce. i think we calculate our own shipping and sometimes taxes etc.
but we certainly use the cart to create the cart databases.
to do line item totals etc etc.
we use the functions in the formulas often
and the cart related comments to read those databases.
to do the and the system sweeps those databases away.
I am not altogether sure what other functions from the e commerce part we use the built in application for.
I can see replacing those with manually generated databases.
Is there some summary of what the cart commands that will be removed are?
and then we need to determine what they all do and the cart itself does so that we can replace those with something new.
With the sand shifteng around our feet here and also on teh credit cart requiremenst it seems like it may be time to consider other simpler packaged solutions.
maybe that was why Donovan left.
jym
christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: The 6.2 module is still downloadable and will remain available online. Version 7.0 allows to create your own shopping cart system, in a much more modern way (databases). The SiteBuilder is just an application that was voluntarily relying on some extra tags to be able to charge more money to the customer (Commerce Edition License). Many of us built sophisticated shopping cart system without using anything from the Commerce Edition. We do not want to support this application since we believe WSC should improve WebDNA as a language and a language only, and the applications should only fall within the competence of WebDNA users... - chris On Jul 5, 2010, at 18:52, Jym Duane wrote:
so there will be no shopping cart files or functions? is this just on the fast cgi? or on the other server editions also? jym christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:
The plan was to deprecate all the eCommerce tags, but due to several requests, we will probably keep [cart] tag since it is the only way to create a unique value with a simple tag, and [validcard] as well since it provides a simple way to see if a credit card is valid. Version 7 will keep all the commerce tags activated, but undocumented. Version 8 should only keep [cart] and [validcard] tags using another name (suggestions welcomed). - chris On Jul 5, 2010, at 18:14, Govinda wrote:
WSC said they had (or will?) remove all the commerce tags from webdna 7+. Does that include [cart]? Seems to be still working. But I do not want to rely on it (as I always have) in case the plan is to drop it later. (Here I am not asking about the old shopping cart file, but just the unique-string-generation function performed by an instance of the literal "[cart]".) WSC, Please advise. Thanks! ------------ Govinda govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list <talk@webdna.us> . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <talk-leave@webdna.us> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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-- Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media Creating Your Success Story Marketing : Television - Internet - Print Phone: (877) 443-1323 Email: jym@purposemedia.com Web: www.purposemedia.com Oregon - www.GuideToOregon.com PO Box 1725, Jacksonville, OR 97530 California - www.OrangeCounty.net PO Box 2025, Capistrano Beach, CA 92624
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