Re: [WebDNA] current thinking on architecture of mass email scripts?

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2011


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = This is a multi-part message in MIME format.--------------070908010003020100020402Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitHi Govinda,I have an email subscriber list of nearly 26,000 email addresses that we send a monthly email newsletter to each month. Several on this list warning me that my server would get black listed if a receiving email server saw emails coming in with many BCC's indicated.I have been using BCC within [sendmail] and Postfix on a Linux server for nearly a year and for several years prior I was using this method on a Windows server. There is NO info in the header of the emails we are sending that indicates the use of BCC for the receiving server to see. Each BCC email header only indicates a single "to" email address of the individual subscriber. Our server has not once been blacklisted.I do not throttle the outgoing email. I do receive bounce back messages from Gmail, Yahoo and maybe a few others that state your email server IS NOT being blacklisted however do to the high volume of emails coming from our server that email from our server is temporarily being blocked and to resend at a later time. Postfix then is configured to retry these emails every hour until all are sent.I have an actual email account titled "subscriber" and then am currently BCC'ing 30 actual customer email addresses. I copy the actual email address database to a temporary send email list database of which I assign each email address a group number. In this instance of sending 30 customer email address at a time, webDNA is sending a total of 866 emails. This takes our server @ 3.09 minutes to send all 26,000 emails. The only thing I am doing that may throttle down the speed of the sends is that as each group of addresses are sent from the temporary send database the addresses are appended to a "sent" database and deleted from the temporary "send" database.Despite popular opinion, this works for me and our server has never been blacklisted.If you are interested in seeing my code I would be happy to share it with you.Best Regards,SteveGovinda wrote:> Hi All>> One clients has some scripts we wrote for a trigger to send email to users.. and sometimes the number of emails that need to go out at once is in range of several hundred .>> In the old days we used to hand-throttle the rate at which those email files were written to disk. >> Just now it came to my attention that webdna has a built-in throttler. I.e. "send X emails per minute"... > Does anyone know where that number/pref. lives and can be changed?>> And to further the discussion a bit, how are you guys (who need to fire alot of [sendmail]s at once) handling it?> Or are you happy to just leave a [sendmail] inside a loop that loops 1,000 times?>> Thanks> -Govinda>> --------------070908010003020100020402Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Govinda,

I have an email subscriber list of nearly 26,000 email addresses thatwe send a monthly email newsletter to each month. Several on this listwarning me that my server would get black listed if a receiving emailserver saw emails coming in with many BCC's indicated.

I have been using BCC within [sendmail] and Postfix on a Linux serverfor nearly a year and for several years prior I was using this methodon a Windows server. Thereis NO info in the header ofthe emails we are sending that indicates the use of BCC for thereceiving server to see. Each BCC email header only indicates a single"to" email address of the individual subscriber. Our server has notonce been blacklisted.

I do not throttle the outgoing email. I do receive bounce back messagesfrom Gmail, Yahoo and maybe a few others that state your email serverIS NOT being blacklisted however do to the high volume of emails comingfrom our server that email from our server is temporarily being blockedand to resend at a later time. Postfix then is configured to retrythese emails every hour until all are sent.

I have an actual email account titled "subscriber" and then amcurrently BCC'ing 30 actual customer email addresses. I copy the actualemail address database to a temporary send email list database of whichI assign each email address a group number. In this instance of sending30 customer email address at a time, webDNA is sending a total of 866emails. This takes our server @ 3.09 minutes to send all 26,000 emails.The only thing I am doing that may throttle down the speed of the sendsis that as each group of addresses are sent from the temporary senddatabase the addresses are appended to a "sent" database and deletedfrom the temporary "send" database.

Despite popularopinion, this works for me and our server has never been blacklisted.

If you are interested in seeing my code I would be happy to share itwith you.

Best Regards,
Steve

Govinda wrote:
Hi AllOne clients has some scripts we wrote for a trigger to send email to users.. and sometimes the number of emails that need to go out at once is in range of several hundred .In the old days we used to hand-throttle the rate at which those email files were written to disk. Just now it came to my attention that webdna has a built-in throttler.  I.e. "send X emails per minute"...  Does anyone know where that number/pref. lives and can be changed?And to further the discussion a bit, how are you guys (who need to fire alot of [sendmail]s at once) handling it?Or are you happy to just leave a [sendmail] inside a loop that loops 1,000 times?Thanks-Govinda

--------------070908010003020100020402-- Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] current thinking on architecture of mass email scripts? (Govinda 2011)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] current thinking on architecture of mass email scripts? (Tom Duke 2011)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] current thinking on architecture of mass email scripts? (Steve Raslevich - Northern Sound 2011)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] current thinking on architecture of mass email scripts? (Govinda 2011)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] current thinking on architecture of mass email scripts? (Steve Raslevich - Northern Sound 2011)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] current thinking on architecture of mass email scripts? (Govinda 2011)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] current thinking on architecture of mass email scripts? (Tom Duke 2011)
  8. [WebDNA] current thinking on architecture of mass email scripts? (Govinda 2011)
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.--------------070908010003020100020402Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitHi Govinda,I have an email subscriber list of nearly 26,000 email addresses that we send a monthly email newsletter to each month. Several on this list warning me that my server would get black listed if a receiving email server saw emails coming in with many BCC's indicated.I have been using BCC within [sendmail] and Postfix on a Linux server for nearly a year and for several years prior I was using this method on a Windows server. There is NO info in the header of the emails we are sending that indicates the use of BCC for the receiving server to see. Each BCC email header only indicates a single "to" email address of the individual subscriber. Our server has not once been blacklisted.I do not throttle the outgoing email. I do receive bounce back messages from Gmail, Yahoo and maybe a few others that state your email server IS NOT being blacklisted however do to the high volume of emails coming from our server that email from our server is temporarily being blocked and to resend at a later time. Postfix then is configured to retry these emails every hour until all are sent.I have an actual email account titled "subscriber" and then am currently BCC'ing 30 actual customer email addresses. I copy the actual email address database to a temporary send email list database of which I assign each email address a group number. In this instance of sending 30 customer email address at a time, webDNA is sending a total of 866 emails. This takes our server @ 3.09 minutes to send all 26,000 emails. The only thing I am doing that may throttle down the speed of the sends is that as each group of addresses are sent from the temporary send database the addresses are appended to a "sent" database and deleted from the temporary "send" database.Despite popular opinion, this works for me and our server has never been blacklisted.If you are interested in seeing my code I would be happy to share it with you.Best Regards,SteveGovinda wrote:> Hi All>> One clients has some scripts we wrote for a trigger to send email to users.. and sometimes the number of emails that need to go out at once is in range of several hundred .>> In the old days we used to hand-throttle the rate at which those email files were written to disk. >> Just now it came to my attention that webdna has a built-in throttler. I.e. "send X emails per minute"... > Does anyone know where that number/pref. lives and can be changed?>> And to further the discussion a bit, how are you guys (who need to fire alot of [sendmail]s at once) handling it?> Or are you happy to just leave a [sendmail] inside a loop that loops 1,000 times?>> Thanks> -Govinda>> --------------070908010003020100020402Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Govinda,

I have an email subscriber list of nearly 26,000 email addresses thatwe send a monthly email newsletter to each month. Several on this listwarning me that my server would get black listed if a receiving emailserver saw emails coming in with many BCC's indicated.

I have been using BCC within [sendmail] and Postfix on a Linux serverfor nearly a year and for several years prior I was using this methodon a Windows server. Thereis NO info in the header ofthe emails we are sending that indicates the use of BCC for thereceiving server to see. Each BCC email header only indicates a single"to" email address of the individual subscriber. Our server has notonce been blacklisted.

I do not throttle the outgoing email. I do receive bounce back messagesfrom Gmail, Yahoo and maybe a few others that state your email serverIS NOT being blacklisted however do to the high volume of emails comingfrom our server that email from our server is temporarily being blockedand to resend at a later time. Postfix then is configured to retrythese emails every hour until all are sent.

I have an actual email account titled "subscriber" and then amcurrently BCC'ing 30 actual customer email addresses. I copy the actualemail address database to a temporary send email list database of whichI assign each email address a group number. In this instance of sending30 customer email address at a time, webDNA is sending a total of 866emails. This takes our server @ 3.09 minutes to send all 26,000 emails.The only thing I am doing that may throttle down the speed of the sendsis that as each group of addresses are sent from the temporary senddatabase the addresses are appended to a "sent" database and deletedfrom the temporary "send" database.

Despite popularopinion, this works for me and our server has never been blacklisted.

If you are interested in seeing my code I would be happy to share itwith you.

Best Regards,
Steve

Govinda wrote:
Hi AllOne clients has some scripts we wrote for a trigger to send email to users.. and sometimes the number of emails that need to go out at once is in range of several hundred .In the old days we used to hand-throttle the rate at which those email files were written to disk. Just now it came to my attention that webdna has a built-in throttler.  I.e. "send X emails per minute"...  Does anyone know where that number/pref. lives and can be changed?And to further the discussion a bit, how are you guys (who need to fire alot of [sendmail]s at once) handling it?Or are you happy to just leave a [sendmail] inside a loop that loops 1,000 times?Thanks-Govinda

--------------070908010003020100020402-- Steve Raslevich - Northern Sound

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