Re: [WebDNA] current thinking on architecture of mass email scripts?
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texte = Steve, Thanks for taking the time to describe to me. I appreciate hearing how everyone is handling real world live cases. At this point I am mostly information gathering. It will be up to the = client to make any final decisions about changing things, or not. I'll = save this your post and let you know if I end up wanting to reproduce = something similar to your setup. Glad it is working! Do you take any steps to handle bounces (and/or keep your master list = current)? -Govinda > Hi Govinda, >=20 > I have an email subscriber list of nearly 26,000 email addresses that = we send a monthly email newsletter to each month. Several on this list = warning me that my server would get black listed if a receiving email = server saw emails coming in with many BCC's indicated.=20 >=20 > I have been using BCC within [sendmail] and Postfix on a Linux server = for nearly a year and for several years prior I was using this method on = a Windows server. There is NO info in the header of the emails we are = sending that indicates the use of BCC for the receiving server to see. = Each BCC email header only indicates a single "to" email address of the = individual subscriber. Our server has not once been blacklisted. >=20 > I do not throttle the outgoing email. I do receive bounce back = messages from Gmail, Yahoo and maybe a few others that state your email = server IS NOT being blacklisted however do to the high volume of emails = coming from our server that email from our server is temporarily being = blocked and to resend at a later time. Postfix then is configured to = retry these emails every hour until all are sent. >=20 > I have an actual email account titled "subscriber" and then am = currently BCC'ing 30 actual customer email addresses. I copy the actual = email address database to a temporary send email list database of which = I assign each email address a group number. In this instance of sending = 30 customer email address at a time, webDNA is sending a total of 866 = emails. This takes our server @ 3.09 minutes to send all 26,000 emails. = The only thing I am doing that may throttle down the speed of the sends = is that as each group of addresses are sent from the temporary send = database the addresses are appended to a "sent" database and deleted = from the temporary "send" database. >=20 > Despite popular opinion, this works for me and our server has never = been blacklisted. >=20 > If you are interested in seeing my code I would be happy to share it = with you. >=20 > Best Regards, > Steve >=20 > Govinda wrote: >> Hi All >>=20 >> One clients has some scripts we wrote for a trigger to send email to = users.. and sometimes the number of emails that need to go out at once = is in range of several hundred+. >>=20 >> In the old days we used to hand-throttle the rate at which those = email files were written to disk.=20 >>=20 >> Just now it came to my attention that webdna has a built-in = throttler. I.e. "send X emails per minute"... =20 >> Does anyone know where that number/pref. lives and can be changed? >>=20 >> And to further the discussion a bit, how are you guys (who need to = fire alot of [sendmail]s at once) handling it? >> Or are you happy to just leave a [sendmail] inside a loop that loops = 1,000 times? >>=20 >> Thanks >> -Govinda >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us - Govinda -------------- Old WebDNA talklist archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/index.tpl?db=3Dwebdna-talk
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Steve, Thanks for taking the time to describe to me. I appreciate hearing how everyone is handling real world live cases. At this point I am mostly information gathering. It will be up to the = client to make any final decisions about changing things, or not. I'll = save this your post and let you know if I end up wanting to reproduce = something similar to your setup. Glad it is working! Do you take any steps to handle bounces (and/or keep your master list = current)? -Govinda > Hi Govinda, >=20 > I have an email subscriber list of nearly 26,000 email addresses that = we send a monthly email newsletter to each month. Several on this list = warning me that my server would get black listed if a receiving email = server saw emails coming in with many BCC's indicated.=20 >=20 > I have been using BCC within
[sendmail] and Postfix on a Linux server = for nearly a year and for several years prior I was using this method on = a Windows server. There is NO info in the header of the emails we are = sending that indicates the use of BCC for the receiving server to see. = Each BCC email header only indicates a single "to" email address of the = individual subscriber. Our server has not once been blacklisted. >=20 > I do not throttle the outgoing email. I do receive bounce back = messages from Gmail, Yahoo and maybe a few others that state your email = server IS NOT being blacklisted however do to the high volume of emails = coming from our server that email from our server is temporarily being = blocked and to resend at a later time. Postfix then is configured to = retry these emails every hour until all are sent. >=20 > I have an actual email account titled "subscriber" and then am = currently BCC'ing 30 actual customer email addresses. I copy the actual = email address database to a temporary send email list database of which = I assign each email address a group number. In this instance of sending = 30 customer email address at a time, webDNA is sending a total of 866 = emails. This takes our server @ 3.09 minutes to send all 26,000 emails. = The only thing I am doing that may throttle down the speed of the sends = is that as each group of addresses are sent from the temporary send = database the addresses are appended to a "sent" database and deleted = from the temporary "send" database. >=20 > Despite popular opinion, this works for me and our server has never = been blacklisted. >=20 > If you are interested in seeing my code I would be happy to share it = with you. >=20 > Best Regards, > Steve >=20 > Govinda wrote: >> Hi All >>=20 >> One clients has some scripts we wrote for a trigger to send email to = users.. and sometimes the number of emails that need to go out at once = is in range of several hundred+. >>=20 >> In the old days we used to hand-throttle the rate at which those = email files were written to disk.=20 >>=20 >> Just now it came to my attention that webdna has a built-in = throttler. I.e. "send X emails per minute"... =20 >> Does anyone know where that number/pref. lives and can be changed? >>=20 >> And to further the discussion a bit, how are you guys (who need to = fire alot of
[sendmail]s at once) handling it? >> Or are you happy to just leave a
[sendmail] inside a loop that loops = 1,000 times? >>=20 >> Thanks >> -Govinda >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us - Govinda -------------- Old WebDNA talklist archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/index.tpl?db=3Dwebdna-talk
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