Re: [BULK] Re: [WebDNA] [BULK] Mac OS X LION has no FastCGI

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2011

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texte = Hi Kenneth,You are misunderstanding the facts.FastCGI is not a part of Lion per default; not even selectable - and I =am afraid that Chris is wrong as well. It' not there. You need to =install it yourself.PalleOn 24/07/2011, at 23.16, Kenneth Grome wrote:> There, see Palle? Chris said that WebDNA 7 works under=20> Apache when using the fastcgi module, so I guess you were=20> misinformed or worried about nothing.>=20> Sincerely,> Kenneth Grome>=20>=20>=20>> Lion as well as Snow Leopard and all other OSX versions>> are using apache as web server. There is a module>> fastcgi_module (mod_fastcgi.so) for all apache versions>> and if it is not loaded by default on Lion, it is>> certainly no difficult to load or install. So, nothing>> to worry about: WebDNA.fcgi will run just as fine with>> Lion as on almost all other web servers.>>=20>> - chris>>=20>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 16:30, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote:>>> Hi Kenneth,>>>=20>>> Thank you for the sarcasm/irony. Besides being>>> entertained by your reply I do not find it useful>>> whatsoever.>>>=20>>> I have chosen to use Mac as a platform for web>>> development as has many others. WSC has chosen to>>> support the Mac platform as well as other platforms,>>> which I appreciate.>>>=20>>> So now I just wanted to inform the community that there>>> is no FCGI in Lion and at the same time ask for the>>> WSC's official opinion on the challenge at hand.>>>=20>>> I rest my case and wish you a good day Kenneth, no>>> matter what platform you choose. I am here to be a>>> part of the community - not trying to have a war on>>> platforms.>>>=20>>> Palle>>>=20>>> On 24/07/2011, at 21.16, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>>>> It seems like Apple has chosen not to include FastCGI>>>>> as an option in Mac OS X Lion or Mac OS X Lion>>>>> Server.>>>>=20>>>> Big deal. Hardly anyone uses Mac servers any more>>>> these days anyways, do they?>>>>=20>>>> Even if they do, why bother upgrading just because a>>>> new version is released? If the version you're>>>> currently using works fine, just keep using it!>>>>=20>>>> Or better yet, why not switch to Linux?>>>>=20>>>> The vast majority of the world's web servers run Linux>>>> these days anyways. Maybe you should try it. Then>>>> you won't have to worry about Apple's strange>>>> decisions any more.>>>>=20>>>> I'm actually surprised that Apple is still producing>>>> and marketing servers. I heard that they pulled the>>>> plug on that division and were no longer producing or>>>> selling server hardware or software ... but maybe>>>> they just cut the server division's funding so much>>>> that the dev team didn't have the resources to>>>> include FastCGI.>>>>=20>>>> Apple has strangely abandoned other technologies while>>>> they were still in heavy use too, so I'm not>>>> surprised about this. But I fail to see why you're>>>> so determined to stick with Mac servers ...>>>>=20>>>> Is there something you cannot do on a Linux server>>>> that you can do on a Mac server? Or is it just that>>>> Linux is a new and different platform that you do not>>>> really want to learn? Because believe me, it's not>>>> that hard ...>>>>=20>>>> When Apple refused to stand behind the last desktop>>>> computer I bought from them several years ago, I>>>> abandoned Apple in favor of Linux -- not only as a>>>> desktop computer but also as a server. It was the>>>> best decision I ever made in my life as a web>>>> developer and server admin.>>>>=20>>>> Since then I have never felt that I had a good reason>>>> to go back to MacOS. And I was one of the biggest>>>> die-hard Mac fans you could possibly have known back>>>> then, so it was NOT a simple decision for me to>>>> switch!>>>>=20>>>> Yet after I made the switch I realized how much I was>>>> missing in the Mac-only environment -- and how much>>>> more it was costing me financially. =46rom that point>>>> on I have always felt very, very good about my>>>> decision to switch.>>>>=20>>>>> Knowing that the Lion has just been set free, I would>>>>> like to ask WSC on their position; what can we expect>>>>> from your side...>>>>=20>>>> I'm not WSC but my guess is that your choices are>>>> simple:>>>>=20>>>> 1- Write your own FastCGI module for your Lion server>>>> so you can use WebDNA 7.>>>>=20>>>> 2- Keep using WebDNA 6.2 on your Lion server so you do>>>> not need FastCGI.>>>>=20>>>> 3- Get a Linux server and run WebDNA 7 and future>>>> versions of WebDNA on it.>>>>=20>>>> 4- Abandon WebDNA in favor of some other server side>>>> scripting language that will run on your Lion server.>>>>=20>>>> 5- Retire so you don't have to reply on companies like>>>> Apple or WSC to do what you want them to do any more.>>>>=20>>>> 6- Another option I have not considered ... ???>>>>=20>>>> Good luck whatever you do.>>>>=20>>>> :)>>>>=20>>>> Sincerely,>>>> Kenneth Grome>>>> ------------------------------------------------------>>>> --- This message is sent to you because you are>>>> subscribed to the mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>=20>>> ------------------------------------------------------->>> -- This message is sent to you because you are>>> subscribed to the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

Hi Kenneth,You are misunderstanding the facts.FastCGI is not a part of Lion per default; not even selectable - and I =am afraid that Chris is wrong as well. It' not there. You need to =install it yourself.PalleOn 24/07/2011, at 23.16, Kenneth Grome wrote:> There, see Palle? Chris said that WebDNA 7 works under=20> Apache when using the fastcgi module, so I guess you were=20> misinformed or worried about nothing.>=20> Sincerely,> Kenneth Grome>=20>=20>=20>> Lion as well as Snow Leopard and all other OSX versions>> are using apache as web server. There is a module>> fastcgi_module (mod_fastcgi.so) for all apache versions>> and if it is not loaded by default on Lion, it is>> certainly no difficult to load or install. So, nothing>> to worry about: WebDNA.fcgi will run just as fine with>> Lion as on almost all other web servers.>>=20>> - chris>>=20>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 16:30, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote:>>> Hi Kenneth,>>>=20>>> Thank you for the sarcasm/irony. Besides being>>> entertained by your reply I do not find it useful>>> whatsoever.>>>=20>>> I have chosen to use Mac as a platform for web>>> development as has many others. WSC has chosen to>>> support the Mac platform as well as other platforms,>>> which I appreciate.>>>=20>>> So now I just wanted to inform the community that there>>> is no FCGI in Lion and at the same time ask for the>>> WSC's official opinion on the challenge at hand.>>>=20>>> I rest my case and wish you a good day Kenneth, no>>> matter what platform you choose. I am here to be a>>> part of the community - not trying to have a war on>>> platforms.>>>=20>>> Palle>>>=20>>> On 24/07/2011, at 21.16, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>>>> It seems like Apple has chosen not to include FastCGI>>>>> as an option in Mac OS X Lion or Mac OS X Lion>>>>> Server.>>>>=20>>>> Big deal. Hardly anyone uses Mac servers any more>>>> these days anyways, do they?>>>>=20>>>> Even if they do, why bother upgrading just because a>>>> new version is released? If the version you're>>>> currently using works fine, just keep using it!>>>>=20>>>> Or better yet, why not switch to Linux?>>>>=20>>>> The vast majority of the world's web servers run Linux>>>> these days anyways. Maybe you should try it. Then>>>> you won't have to worry about Apple's strange>>>> decisions any more.>>>>=20>>>> I'm actually surprised that Apple is still producing>>>> and marketing servers. I heard that they pulled the>>>> plug on that division and were no longer producing or>>>> selling server hardware or software ... but maybe>>>> they just cut the server division's funding so much>>>> that the dev team didn't have the resources to>>>> include FastCGI.>>>>=20>>>> Apple has strangely abandoned other technologies while>>>> they were still in heavy use too, so I'm not>>>> surprised about this. But I fail to see why you're>>>> so determined to stick with Mac servers ...>>>>=20>>>> Is there something you cannot do on a Linux server>>>> that you can do on a Mac server? Or is it just that>>>> Linux is a new and different platform that you do not>>>> really want to learn? Because believe me, it's not>>>> that hard ...>>>>=20>>>> When Apple refused to stand behind the last desktop>>>> computer I bought from them several years ago, I>>>> abandoned Apple in favor of Linux -- not only as a>>>> desktop computer but also as a server. It was the>>>> best decision I ever made in my life as a web>>>> developer and server admin.>>>>=20>>>> Since then I have never felt that I had a good reason>>>> to go back to MacOS. And I was one of the biggest>>>> die-hard Mac fans you could possibly have known back>>>> then, so it was NOT a simple decision for me to>>>> switch!>>>>=20>>>> Yet after I made the switch I realized how much I was>>>> missing in the Mac-only environment -- and how much>>>> more it was costing me financially. =46rom that point>>>> on I have always felt very, very good about my>>>> decision to switch.>>>>=20>>>>> Knowing that the Lion has just been set free, I would>>>>> like to ask WSC on their position; what can we expect>>>>> from your side...>>>>=20>>>> I'm not WSC but my guess is that your choices are>>>> simple:>>>>=20>>>> 1- Write your own FastCGI module for your Lion server>>>> so you can use WebDNA 7.>>>>=20>>>> 2- Keep using WebDNA 6.2 on your Lion server so you do>>>> not need FastCGI.>>>>=20>>>> 3- Get a Linux server and run WebDNA 7 and future>>>> versions of WebDNA on it.>>>>=20>>>> 4- Abandon WebDNA in favor of some other server side>>>> scripting language that will run on your Lion server.>>>>=20>>>> 5- Retire so you don't have to reply on companies like>>>> Apple or WSC to do what you want them to do any more.>>>>=20>>>> 6- Another option I have not considered ... ???>>>>=20>>>> Good luck whatever you do.>>>>=20>>>> :)>>>>=20>>>> Sincerely,>>>> Kenneth Grome>>>> ------------------------------------------------------>>>> --- This message is sent to you because you are>>>> subscribed to the mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>=20>>> ------------------------------------------------------->>> -- This message is sent to you because you are>>> subscribed to the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Palle Bo Nielsen

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Re: [BULK] Re: [WebDNA] [BULK] Mac OS X LION has no FastCGI

2011

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