Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor
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texte = On Jan 23, 2012, at 17:30, Rob wrote:> I haven't yet, and just now downloaded it. Can 7 run parallel with 6.2 =on the same box?yes, provided 6.2 and 7.0 do not share the same extensions. For =instance, you could run .dna with WebDNA 7.0 and .tpl with WebDNA 6.2> ...and... can all the testing be done before the domain is pointed to =it, as I see in the instructions it needs a vhost pointed to it.=20yes, using a dedicated IP. If you run vhosts that share the same IP, =then you will need a domain name.> Can that vhost be changed after everything is setup back to the =primary domain for that site?yes- chris>=20> Rob>=20> On Jan 23, 2012, at 1:22 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:>=20>> About the stores... since the commerce tags are still available under =7.0 (except the URL command system) did anyone try to run a store with =7.0?>>=20>> - chris>>=20>>=20>>=20>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 14:26, Rob wrote:>>=20>>> Hi Chris,>>>=20>>> I would, but won't that kill all my stores, as I am running 6.2. =Would I have to do a rewrite on everything?>>>=20>>> That would take weeks.... :-(>>>=20>>> Rob>>>=20>>>=20>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 10:24 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:>>>=20>>>> Hi Rob! download the last version of WebDNA 7.0.623 at =http://dev.webdna.us/products.html and check the history at =http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D299>>>>=20>>>> This bug only affects OS X and busy servers.>>>>=20>>>> - chris>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 13:25, Rob wrote:>>>>=20>>>>> Ok, this acted up again, and am not getting errors in the debug, =or any error logs, which is strange. The processor just climbed to 180% =on the WebCatalog process. I am getting a few lines in the signal =termination log, but that's it, and a couple of them were probably =generated by me trying to get it to start.>>>>>=20>>>>> ---Mon Jan 23 06:03:56 2012 MSTProcessid 66785 receive SIGTERM:>>>>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:56:02 2012 MSTProcessid 66958 receive SIGTERM:>>>>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:59:02 2012 MSTProcessid 69107 receive SIGTERM:>>>>>=20>>>>> However, I am getting a weird error when I trigger =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl =restart in terminal. I get about ten or twelve lines of:>>>>>=20>>>>> "sem_open failed: returned ENOSPC: No space left on device">>>>>=20>>>>> and can't exit terminal without quitting it.>>>>>=20>>>>> Not sure at all what that error is, any ideas? The server has 450 =gigs of free space(Mac os x 10.6.8, WebDNA 6.2). I did do an uninstall, =and complete reinstall of WebDNA, but it still comes up with this same =error on restart. WebDNA does start and run normally though.>>>>>=20>>>>> We will eventually move over to version 7, but can't get at it for =a few months, so need to get this stable for now, or at least to the =point where we don't have to babysit it.>>>>>=20>>>>> Rob>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Rob wrote:>>>>>=20>>>>>> Hi Robert>>>>>>=20>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Robert Minor wrote:>>>>>>=20>>>>>>> Maybe the thought he was funny.=20>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>> Was your old server intel based?=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>> No, it was PPC... 10.4.11>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>> did you turn on the troubleshooting tools?>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Yes, they are on now... Hoping to catch it the next time it =happens.>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Rob>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Rob wrote:>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>> Uuuuh...the server is only six months old.... how new do you =want me to try?... All that's happened is we retired an old server, that =wasn't having any problems, but it was over 5 years old, and we just =didn't trust it any more, and to replace internal hardware would cost =more then purchasing a new one.>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>> Rob>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:35 PM, William DeVaul wrote:>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>> Try a new server. Worked wonders for me.>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>> Bill>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rob
wrote:>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote:>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> Rob wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,>>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>>> Very rarely(once every couple months) I have WebDNA 6.2 =stop, and drive>>>>>>>>>> the CPU nuts on Snow Leopard Server, and am looking at adding =a script to>>>>>>>>>> keep an eye on it while I go on vacation. I found an old =script... not sure>>>>>>>>>> where it come from or where I got it, but I had it on one of =the old>>>>>>>>>> servers, and would like to get it working using launchd to =start it, which>>>>>>>>>> isn't the problem. When I trigger the script, it comes up =with "ps: No user>>>>>>>>>> named 'x'". Which is fairly obvious to those who no about =these scripts,>>>>>>>>>> which I don't.>>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>>> So my question is, does anyone know how to get this =working, or is>>>>>>>>>> there a better way? ... Script below.>>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>>> Rob>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't use that script for a couple reasons.>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> First, It's not bad if your server shoots up to a 145% usage =(2 CPU's)>>>>>>>>>> for short instances now and then..>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> Second, kill -9 is *not* a good way of stopping WebDNA... at =least not>>>>>>>>>> for 6.2 which still uses WebDNAMonitor.>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, the script seems to contain logical problems in my =opinion.>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> If you were to use it, I'd change it to 199%... and change =the 'kill -9'>>>>>>>>>> to '/Library/WebServer/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl =restart'.>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> To fix the script, there is a change to how 'ps' functions =in Snow>>>>>>>>>> Leopard..>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> basically change the instances of "ps -aux" in your script =to "ps aux".>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> To fix your CPU issue, I'd start looking into standard =troubleshooting>>>>>>>>>> techniques.. looking at logs, looking for overgrown log files =etc..>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> Donovan>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the input Donovan.>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if I'm going to use it or not, at this point. =Its just an>>>>>>>>>> avenue I'm looking at, unless there is a better solution. I =did notice,>>>>>>>>>> however, that when WebDNA dies, the CPU hoovers around 60%, =so I'm not sure>>>>>>>>>> this will even work when it acts up.>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>> I've been looking at the logs trying to pin out down, but it =happens so>>>>>>>>>> rarely that its hard to get a handle on it... :-( .. I think =all turn on>>>>>>>>>> everything in the Prefs Technical section for a while to see =if I can catch>>>>>>>>>> it.>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>> Rob>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>>> the mailing list .>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>>=20>>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>> the mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>=20>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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On Jan 23, 2012, at 17:30, Rob wrote:> I haven't yet, and just now downloaded it. Can 7 run parallel with 6.2 =on the same box?yes, provided 6.2 and 7.0 do not share the same extensions. For =instance, you could run .dna with WebDNA 7.0 and .tpl with WebDNA 6.2> ...and... can all the testing be done before the domain is pointed to =it, as I see in the instructions it needs a vhost pointed to it.=20yes, using a dedicated IP. If you run vhosts that share the same IP, =then you will need a domain name.> Can that vhost be changed after everything is setup back to the =primary domain for that site?yes- chris>=20> Rob>=20> On Jan 23, 2012, at 1:22 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:>=20>> About the stores... since the commerce tags are still available under =7.0 (except the URL command system) did anyone try to run a store with =7.0?>>=20>> - chris>>=20>>=20>>=20>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 14:26, Rob wrote:>>=20>>> Hi Chris,>>>=20>>> I would, but won't that kill all my stores, as I am running 6.2. =Would I have to do a rewrite on everything?>>>=20>>> That would take weeks.... :-(>>>=20>>> Rob>>>=20>>>=20>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 10:24 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:>>>=20>>>> Hi Rob! download the last version of WebDNA 7.0.623 at =http://dev.webdna.us/products.html and check the history at =http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D299>>>>=20>>>> This bug only affects OS X and busy servers.>>>>=20>>>> - chris>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 13:25, Rob wrote:>>>>=20>>>>> Ok, this acted up again, and am not getting errors in the debug, =or any error logs, which is strange. The processor just climbed to 180% =on the WebCatalog process. I am getting a few lines in the signal =termination log, but that's it, and a couple of them were probably =generated by me trying to get it to start.>>>>>=20>>>>> ---Mon Jan 23 06:03:56 2012 MSTProcessid 66785 receive SIGTERM:>>>>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:56:02 2012 MSTProcessid 66958 receive SIGTERM:>>>>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:59:02 2012 MSTProcessid 69107 receive SIGTERM:>>>>>=20>>>>> However, I am getting a weird error when I trigger =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl =restart in terminal. I get about ten or twelve lines of:>>>>>=20>>>>> "sem_open failed: returned ENOSPC: No space left on device">>>>>=20>>>>> and can't exit terminal without quitting it.>>>>>=20>>>>> Not sure at all what that error is, any ideas? The server has 450 =gigs of free space(Mac os x 10.6.8, WebDNA 6.2). I did do an uninstall, =and complete reinstall of WebDNA, but it still comes up with this same =error on restart. WebDNA does start and run normally though.>>>>>=20>>>>> We will eventually move over to version 7, but can't get at it for =a few months, so need to get this stable for now, or at least to the =point where we don't have to babysit it.>>>>>=20>>>>> Rob>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Rob wrote:>>>>>=20>>>>>> Hi Robert>>>>>>=20>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Robert Minor wrote:>>>>>>=20>>>>>>> Maybe the thought he was funny.=20>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>> Was your old server intel based?=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>> No, it was PPC... 10.4.11>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>> did you turn on the troubleshooting tools?>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Yes, they are on now... Hoping to catch it the next time it =happens.>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Rob>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Rob wrote:>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>> Uuuuh...the server is only six months old.... how new do you =want me to try?... All that's happened is we retired an old server, that =wasn't having any problems, but it was over 5 years old, and we just =didn't trust it any more, and to replace internal hardware would cost =more then purchasing a new one.>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>> Rob>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:35 PM, William DeVaul wrote:>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>> Try a new server. Worked wonders for me.>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>> Bill>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rob wrote:>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote:>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> Rob wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,>>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>>> Very rarely(once every couple months) I have WebDNA 6.2 =stop, and drive>>>>>>>>>> the CPU nuts on Snow Leopard Server, and am looking at adding =a script to>>>>>>>>>> keep an eye on it while I go on vacation. I found an old =script... not sure>>>>>>>>>> where it come from or where I got it, but I had it on one of =the old>>>>>>>>>> servers, and would like to get it working using launchd to =start it, which>>>>>>>>>> isn't the problem. When I trigger the script, it comes up =with "ps: No user>>>>>>>>>> named 'x'". Which is fairly obvious to those who no about =these scripts,>>>>>>>>>> which I don't.>>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>>> So my question is, does anyone know how to get this =working, or is>>>>>>>>>> there a better way? ... Script below.>>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>>> Rob>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't use that script for a couple reasons.>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> First, It's not bad if your server shoots up to a 145% usage =(2 CPU's)>>>>>>>>>> for short instances now and then..>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> Second, kill -9 is *not* a good way of stopping WebDNA... at =least not>>>>>>>>>> for 6.2 which still uses WebDNAMonitor.>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, the script seems to contain logical problems in my =opinion.>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> If you were to use it, I'd change it to 199%... and change =the 'kill -9'>>>>>>>>>> to '/Library/WebServer/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl =restart'.>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> To fix the script, there is a change to how 'ps' functions =in Snow>>>>>>>>>> Leopard..>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> basically change the instances of "ps -aux" in your script =to "ps aux".>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> To fix your CPU issue, I'd start looking into standard =troubleshooting>>>>>>>>>> techniques.. looking at logs, looking for overgrown log files =etc..>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>> Donovan>>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the input Donovan.>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if I'm going to use it or not, at this point. =Its just an>>>>>>>>>> avenue I'm looking at, unless there is a better solution. I =did notice,>>>>>>>>>> however, that when WebDNA dies, the CPU hoovers around 60%, =so I'm not sure>>>>>>>>>> this will even work when it acts up.>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>> I've been looking at the logs trying to pin out down, but it =happens so>>>>>>>>>> rarely that its hard to get a handle on it... :-( .. I think =all turn on>>>>>>>>>> everything in the Prefs Technical section for a while to see =if I can catch>>>>>>>>>> it.>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>> Rob>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>>> the mailing list .>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>>=20>>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>> the mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>=20>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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