Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor

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2012


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texte = On Jan 23, 2012, at 17:30, Rob wrote: > I haven't yet, and just now downloaded it. Can 7 run parallel with 6.2 = on the same box? yes, provided 6.2 and 7.0 do not share the same extensions. For = instance, you could run .dna with WebDNA 7.0 and .tpl with WebDNA 6.2 > ...and... can all the testing be done before the domain is pointed to = it, as I see in the instructions it needs a vhost pointed to it.=20 yes, using a dedicated IP. If you run vhosts that share the same IP, = then you will need a domain name. > Can that vhost be changed after everything is setup back to the = primary domain for that site? yes - chris >=20 > Rob >=20 > On Jan 23, 2012, at 1:22 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 >> About the stores... since the commerce tags are still available under = 7.0 (except the URL command system) did anyone try to run a store with = 7.0? >>=20 >> - chris >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jan 23, 2012, at 14:26, Rob wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi Chris, >>>=20 >>> I would, but won't that kill all my stores, as I am running 6.2. = Would I have to do a rewrite on everything? >>>=20 >>> That would take weeks.... :-( >>>=20 >>> Rob >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 10:24 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hi Rob! download the last version of WebDNA 7.0.623 at = http://dev.webdna.us/products.html and check the history at = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D299 >>>>=20 >>>> This bug only affects OS X and busy servers. >>>>=20 >>>> - chris >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 13:25, Rob wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Ok, this acted up again, and am not getting errors in the debug, = or any error logs, which is strange. The processor just climbed to 180% = on the WebCatalog process. I am getting a few lines in the signal = termination log, but that's it, and a couple of them were probably = generated by me trying to get it to start. >>>>>=20 >>>>> ---Mon Jan 23 06:03:56 2012 MSTProcessid 66785 receive SIGTERM: >>>>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:56:02 2012 MSTProcessid 66958 receive SIGTERM: >>>>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:59:02 2012 MSTProcessid 69107 receive SIGTERM: >>>>>=20 >>>>> However, I am getting a weird error when I trigger = /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl = restart in terminal. I get about ten or twelve lines of: >>>>>=20 >>>>> "sem_open failed: returned ENOSPC: No space left on device" >>>>>=20 >>>>> and can't exit terminal without quitting it. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Not sure at all what that error is, any ideas? The server has 450 = gigs of free space(Mac os x 10.6.8, WebDNA 6.2). I did do an uninstall, = and complete reinstall of WebDNA, but it still comes up with this same = error on restart. WebDNA does start and run normally though. >>>>>=20 >>>>> We will eventually move over to version 7, but can't get at it for = a few months, so need to get this stable for now, or at least to the = point where we don't have to babysit it. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Rob >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Rob wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hi Robert >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Robert Minor wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Maybe the thought he was funny.=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Was your old server intel based?=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> No, it was PPC... 10.4.11 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> did you turn on the troubleshooting tools? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Yes, they are on now... Hoping to catch it the next time it = happens. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Rob >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Rob wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Uuuuh...the server is only six months old.... how new do you = want me to try?... All that's happened is we retired an old server, that = wasn't having any problems, but it was over 5 years old, and we just = didn't trust it any more, and to replace internal hardware would cost = more then purchasing a new one. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:35 PM, William DeVaul wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Try a new server. Worked wonders for me. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rob wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Rob wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Very rarely(once every couple months) I have WebDNA 6.2 = stop, and drive >>>>>>>>>> the CPU nuts on Snow Leopard Server, and am looking at adding = a script to >>>>>>>>>> keep an eye on it while I go on vacation. I found an old = script... not sure >>>>>>>>>> where it come from or where I got it, but I had it on one of = the old >>>>>>>>>> servers, and would like to get it working using launchd to = start it, which >>>>>>>>>> isn't the problem. When I trigger the script, it comes up = with "ps: No user >>>>>>>>>> named 'x'". Which is fairly obvious to those who no about = these scripts, >>>>>>>>>> which I don't. >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> So my question is, does anyone know how to get this = working, or is >>>>>>>>>> there a better way? ... Script below. >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't use that script for a couple reasons. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> First, It's not bad if your server shoots up to a 145% usage = (2 CPU's) >>>>>>>>>> for short instances now and then.. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Second, kill -9 is *not* a good way of stopping WebDNA... at = least not >>>>>>>>>> for 6.2 which still uses WebDNAMonitor. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, the script seems to contain logical problems in my = opinion. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> If you were to use it, I'd change it to 199%... and change = the 'kill -9' >>>>>>>>>> to '/Library/WebServer/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl = restart'. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> To fix the script, there is a change to how 'ps' functions = in Snow >>>>>>>>>> Leopard.. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> basically change the instances of "ps -aux" in your script = to "ps aux". >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> To fix your CPU issue, I'd start looking into standard = troubleshooting >>>>>>>>>> techniques.. looking at logs, looking for overgrown log files = etc.. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Donovan >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the input Donovan. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if I'm going to use it or not, at this point. = Its just an >>>>>>>>>> avenue I'm looking at, unless there is a better solution. I = did notice, >>>>>>>>>> however, that when WebDNA dies, the CPU hoovers around 60%, = so I'm not sure >>>>>>>>>> this will even work when it acts up. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> I've been looking at the logs trying to pin out down, but it = happens so >>>>>>>>>> rarely that its hard to get a handle on it... :-( .. I think = all turn on >>>>>>>>>> everything in the Prefs Technical section for a while to see = if I can catch >>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Kenneth Grome 2012)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (William DeVaul 2012)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  21. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Kenneth Grome 2012)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  24. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  25. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  26. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Robert Minor 2012)
  27. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  28. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (William DeVaul 2012)
  29. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  30. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  31. [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
On Jan 23, 2012, at 17:30, Rob wrote: > I haven't yet, and just now downloaded it. Can 7 run parallel with 6.2 = on the same box? yes, provided 6.2 and 7.0 do not share the same extensions. For = instance, you could run .dna with WebDNA 7.0 and .tpl with WebDNA 6.2 > ...and... can all the testing be done before the domain is pointed to = it, as I see in the instructions it needs a vhost pointed to it.=20 yes, using a dedicated IP. If you run vhosts that share the same IP, = then you will need a domain name. > Can that vhost be changed after everything is setup back to the = primary domain for that site? yes - chris >=20 > Rob >=20 > On Jan 23, 2012, at 1:22 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 >> About the stores... since the commerce tags are still available under = 7.0 (except the URL command system) did anyone try to run a store with = 7.0? >>=20 >> - chris >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jan 23, 2012, at 14:26, Rob wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi Chris, >>>=20 >>> I would, but won't that kill all my stores, as I am running 6.2. = Would I have to do a rewrite on everything? >>>=20 >>> That would take weeks.... :-( >>>=20 >>> Rob >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 10:24 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hi Rob! download the last version of WebDNA 7.0.623 at = http://dev.webdna.us/products.html and check the history at = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D299 >>>>=20 >>>> This bug only affects OS X and busy servers. >>>>=20 >>>> - chris >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 13:25, Rob wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Ok, this acted up again, and am not getting errors in the debug, = or any error logs, which is strange. The processor just climbed to 180% = on the WebCatalog process. I am getting a few lines in the signal = termination log, but that's it, and a couple of them were probably = generated by me trying to get it to start. >>>>>=20 >>>>> ---Mon Jan 23 06:03:56 2012 MSTProcessid 66785 receive SIGTERM: >>>>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:56:02 2012 MSTProcessid 66958 receive SIGTERM: >>>>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:59:02 2012 MSTProcessid 69107 receive SIGTERM: >>>>>=20 >>>>> However, I am getting a weird error when I trigger = /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl = restart in terminal. I get about ten or twelve lines of: >>>>>=20 >>>>> "sem_open failed: returned ENOSPC: No space left on device" >>>>>=20 >>>>> and can't exit terminal without quitting it. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Not sure at all what that error is, any ideas? The server has 450 = gigs of free space(Mac os x 10.6.8, WebDNA 6.2). I did do an uninstall, = and complete reinstall of WebDNA, but it still comes up with this same = error on restart. WebDNA does start and run normally though. >>>>>=20 >>>>> We will eventually move over to version 7, but can't get at it for = a few months, so need to get this stable for now, or at least to the = point where we don't have to babysit it. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Rob >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Rob wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hi Robert >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Robert Minor wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Maybe the thought he was funny.=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Was your old server intel based?=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> No, it was PPC... 10.4.11 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> did you turn on the troubleshooting tools? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Yes, they are on now... Hoping to catch it the next time it = happens. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Rob >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Rob wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Uuuuh...the server is only six months old.... how new do you = want me to try?... All that's happened is we retired an old server, that = wasn't having any problems, but it was over 5 years old, and we just = didn't trust it any more, and to replace internal hardware would cost = more then purchasing a new one. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:35 PM, William DeVaul wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Try a new server. Worked wonders for me. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rob wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Rob wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Very rarely(once every couple months) I have WebDNA 6.2 = stop, and drive >>>>>>>>>> the CPU nuts on Snow Leopard Server, and am looking at adding = a script to >>>>>>>>>> keep an eye on it while I go on vacation. I found an old = script... not sure >>>>>>>>>> where it come from or where I got it, but I had it on one of = the old >>>>>>>>>> servers, and would like to get it working using launchd to = start it, which >>>>>>>>>> isn't the problem. When I trigger the script, it comes up = with "ps: No user >>>>>>>>>> named 'x'". Which is fairly obvious to those who no about = these scripts, >>>>>>>>>> which I don't. >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> So my question is, does anyone know how to get this = working, or is >>>>>>>>>> there a better way? ... Script below. >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't use that script for a couple reasons. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> First, It's not bad if your server shoots up to a 145% usage = (2 CPU's) >>>>>>>>>> for short instances now and then.. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Second, kill -9 is *not* a good way of stopping WebDNA... at = least not >>>>>>>>>> for 6.2 which still uses WebDNAMonitor. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, the script seems to contain logical problems in my = opinion. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> If you were to use it, I'd change it to 199%... and change = the 'kill -9' >>>>>>>>>> to '/Library/WebServer/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl = restart'. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> To fix the script, there is a change to how 'ps' functions = in Snow >>>>>>>>>> Leopard.. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> basically change the instances of "ps -aux" in your script = to "ps aux". >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> To fix your CPU issue, I'd start looking into standard = troubleshooting >>>>>>>>>> techniques.. looking at logs, looking for overgrown log files = etc.. >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Donovan >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the input Donovan. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if I'm going to use it or not, at this point. = Its just an >>>>>>>>>> avenue I'm looking at, unless there is a better solution. I = did notice, >>>>>>>>>> however, that when WebDNA dies, the CPU hoovers around 60%, = so I'm not sure >>>>>>>>>> this will even work when it acts up. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> I've been looking at the logs trying to pin out down, but it = happens so >>>>>>>>>> rarely that its hard to get a handle on it... :-( .. I think = all turn on >>>>>>>>>> everything in the Prefs Technical section for a while to see = if I can catch >>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us christophe.billiottet@webdna.us

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