Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor

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2012


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 108192
interpreted = N
texte = Hi Bill! each copy of WebDNA 7 is accessing its own databases. If you need to = share databases among several websites, you might run a vhost dedicated = to these databases, with its own WebDNA copy. You can also run a copy configured with a single vhost serving multiple = domains. The only conflict situation would be if you run several WebDNA 7 copies = accessing the very same database: each WebDNA copy would keep the = database into its own memory; if one copy is modifying the database, the = others would not be updated and would still run an older version. = But.... if you only need to READ the database, then there is no problem = with this. - chris On Jan 23, 2012, at 18:56, William DeVaul wrote: > I haven't because I have multiple domains sharing databases. How is = 7.0 configured with a single vhost serving multiple domains and database = collisions? =20 >=20 > Bill >=20 > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:22 PM, = wrote: > About the stores... since the commerce tags are still available under = 7.0 (except the URL command system) did anyone try to run a store with = 7.0? >=20 > - chris >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jan 23, 2012, at 14:26, Rob wrote: >=20 > > Hi Chris, > > > > I would, but won't that kill all my stores, as I am running 6.2. = Would I have to do a rewrite on everything? > > > > That would take weeks.... :-( > > > > Rob > > > > > > On Jan 23, 2012, at 10:24 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > > > >> Hi Rob! download the last version of WebDNA 7.0.623 at = http://dev.webdna.us/products.html and check the history at = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D299 > >> > >> This bug only affects OS X and busy servers. > >> > >> - chris > >> > >> > >> On Jan 23, 2012, at 13:25, Rob wrote: > >> > >>> Ok, this acted up again, and am not getting errors in the debug, = or any error logs, which is strange. The processor just climbed to 180% = on the WebCatalog process. I am getting a few lines in the signal = termination log, but that's it, and a couple of them were probably = generated by me trying to get it to start. > >>> > >>> ---Mon Jan 23 06:03:56 2012 MST Processid 66785 receive = SIGTERM: > >>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:56:02 2012 MST Processid 66958 receive = SIGTERM: > >>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:59:02 2012 MST Processid 69107 receive = SIGTERM: > >>> > >>> However, I am getting a weird error when I trigger = /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl = restart in terminal. I get about ten or twelve lines of: > >>> > >>> "sem_open failed: returned ENOSPC: No space left on device" > >>> > >>> and can't exit terminal without quitting it. > >>> > >>> Not sure at all what that error is, any ideas? The server has 450 = gigs of free space(Mac os x 10.6.8, WebDNA 6.2). I did do an uninstall, = and complete reinstall of WebDNA, but it still comes up with this same = error on restart. WebDNA does start and run normally though. > >>> > >>> We will eventually move over to version 7, but can't get at it for = a few months, so need to get this stable for now, or at least to the = point where we don't have to babysit it. > >>> > >>> Rob > >>> > >>> > >>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Rob wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Robert > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Robert Minor wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Maybe the thought he was funny. > >>>>> > >>>>> Was your old server intel based? > >>>> > >>>> No, it was PPC... 10.4.11 > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> did you turn on the troubleshooting tools? > >>>> > >>>> Yes, they are on now... Hoping to catch it the next time it = happens. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Rob > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Rob wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Uuuuh...the server is only six months old.... how new do you = want me to try?... All that's happened is we retired an old server, that = wasn't having any problems, but it was over 5 years old, and we just = didn't trust it any more, and to replace internal hardware would cost = more then purchasing a new one. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rob > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:35 PM, William DeVaul wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Try a new server. Worked wonders for me. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Bill > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rob wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Rob wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Very rarely(once every couple months) I have WebDNA 6.2 = stop, and drive > >>>>>>>> the CPU nuts on Snow Leopard Server, and am looking at adding = a script to > >>>>>>>> keep an eye on it while I go on vacation. I found an old = script... not sure > >>>>>>>> where it come from or where I got it, but I had it on one of = the old > >>>>>>>> servers, and would like to get it working using launchd to = start it, which > >>>>>>>> isn't the problem. When I trigger the script, it comes up = with "ps: No user > >>>>>>>> named 'x'". Which is fairly obvious to those who no about = these scripts, > >>>>>>>> which I don't. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> So my question is, does anyone know how to get this = working, or is > >>>>>>>> there a better way? ... Script below. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Rob > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I wouldn't use that script for a couple reasons. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> First, It's not bad if your server shoots up to a 145% usage = (2 CPU's) > >>>>>>>> for short instances now and then.. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Second, kill -9 is *not* a good way of stopping WebDNA... at = least not > >>>>>>>> for 6.2 which still uses WebDNAMonitor. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Anyway, the script seems to contain logical problems in my = opinion. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If you were to use it, I'd change it to 199%... and change = the 'kill -9' > >>>>>>>> to '/Library/WebServer/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl = restart'. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> To fix the script, there is a change to how 'ps' functions = in Snow > >>>>>>>> Leopard.. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> basically change the instances of "ps -aux" in your script = to "ps aux". > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> To fix your CPU issue, I'd start looking into standard = troubleshooting > >>>>>>>> techniques.. looking at logs, looking for overgrown log files = etc.. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Donovan > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks for the input Donovan. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm not sure if I'm going to use it or not, at this point. = Its just an > >>>>>>>> avenue I'm looking at, unless there is a better solution. I = did notice, > >>>>>>>> however, that when WebDNA dies, the CPU hoovers around 60%, = so I'm not sure > >>>>>>>> this will even work when it acts up. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I've been looking at the logs trying to pin out down, but it = happens so > >>>>>>>> rarely that its hard to get a handle on it... :-( .. I think = all turn on > >>>>>>>> everything in the Prefs Technical section for a while to see = if I can catch > >>>>>>>> it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Rob > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>> the mailing list . > >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >> the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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  1. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Kenneth Grome 2012)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (William DeVaul 2012)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  21. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Kenneth Grome 2012)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  24. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  25. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  26. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Robert Minor 2012)
  27. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  28. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (William DeVaul 2012)
  29. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  30. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  31. [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
Hi Bill! each copy of WebDNA 7 is accessing its own databases. If you need to = share databases among several websites, you might run a vhost dedicated = to these databases, with its own WebDNA copy. You can also run a copy configured with a single vhost serving multiple = domains. The only conflict situation would be if you run several WebDNA 7 copies = accessing the very same database: each WebDNA copy would keep the = database into its own memory; if one copy is modifying the database, the = others would not be updated and would still run an older version. = But.... if you only need to READ the database, then there is no problem = with this. - chris On Jan 23, 2012, at 18:56, William DeVaul wrote: > I haven't because I have multiple domains sharing databases. How is = 7.0 configured with a single vhost serving multiple domains and database = collisions? =20 >=20 > Bill >=20 > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:22 PM, = wrote: > About the stores... since the commerce tags are still available under = 7.0 (except the URL command system) did anyone try to run a store with = 7.0? >=20 > - chris >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jan 23, 2012, at 14:26, Rob wrote: >=20 > > Hi Chris, > > > > I would, but won't that kill all my stores, as I am running 6.2. = Would I have to do a rewrite on everything? > > > > That would take weeks.... :-( > > > > Rob > > > > > > On Jan 23, 2012, at 10:24 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > > > >> Hi Rob! download the last version of WebDNA 7.0.623 at = http://dev.webdna.us/products.html and check the history at = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D299 > >> > >> This bug only affects OS X and busy servers. > >> > >> - chris > >> > >> > >> On Jan 23, 2012, at 13:25, Rob wrote: > >> > >>> Ok, this acted up again, and am not getting errors in the debug, = or any error logs, which is strange. The processor just climbed to 180% = on the WebCatalog process. I am getting a few lines in the signal = termination log, but that's it, and a couple of them were probably = generated by me trying to get it to start. > >>> > >>> ---Mon Jan 23 06:03:56 2012 MST Processid 66785 receive = SIGTERM: > >>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:56:02 2012 MST Processid 66958 receive = SIGTERM: > >>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:59:02 2012 MST Processid 69107 receive = SIGTERM: > >>> > >>> However, I am getting a weird error when I trigger = /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl = restart in terminal. I get about ten or twelve lines of: > >>> > >>> "sem_open failed: returned ENOSPC: No space left on device" > >>> > >>> and can't exit terminal without quitting it. > >>> > >>> Not sure at all what that error is, any ideas? The server has 450 = gigs of free space(Mac os x 10.6.8, WebDNA 6.2). I did do an uninstall, = and complete reinstall of WebDNA, but it still comes up with this same = error on restart. WebDNA does start and run normally though. > >>> > >>> We will eventually move over to version 7, but can't get at it for = a few months, so need to get this stable for now, or at least to the = point where we don't have to babysit it. > >>> > >>> Rob > >>> > >>> > >>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Rob wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Robert > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Robert Minor wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Maybe the thought he was funny. > >>>>> > >>>>> Was your old server intel based? > >>>> > >>>> No, it was PPC... 10.4.11 > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> did you turn on the troubleshooting tools? > >>>> > >>>> Yes, they are on now... Hoping to catch it the next time it = happens. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Rob > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Rob wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Uuuuh...the server is only six months old.... how new do you = want me to try?... All that's happened is we retired an old server, that = wasn't having any problems, but it was over 5 years old, and we just = didn't trust it any more, and to replace internal hardware would cost = more then purchasing a new one. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rob > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:35 PM, William DeVaul wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Try a new server. Worked wonders for me. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Bill > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rob wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Rob wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Very rarely(once every couple months) I have WebDNA 6.2 = stop, and drive > >>>>>>>> the CPU nuts on Snow Leopard Server, and am looking at adding = a script to > >>>>>>>> keep an eye on it while I go on vacation. I found an old = script... not sure > >>>>>>>> where it come from or where I got it, but I had it on one of = the old > >>>>>>>> servers, and would like to get it working using launchd to = start it, which > >>>>>>>> isn't the problem. When I trigger the script, it comes up = with "ps: No user > >>>>>>>> named 'x'". Which is fairly obvious to those who no about = these scripts, > >>>>>>>> which I don't. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> So my question is, does anyone know how to get this = working, or is > >>>>>>>> there a better way? ... Script below. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Rob > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I wouldn't use that script for a couple reasons. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> First, It's not bad if your server shoots up to a 145% usage = (2 CPU's) > >>>>>>>> for short instances now and then.. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Second, kill -9 is *not* a good way of stopping WebDNA... at = least not > >>>>>>>> for 6.2 which still uses WebDNAMonitor. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Anyway, the script seems to contain logical problems in my = opinion. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If you were to use it, I'd change it to 199%... and change = the 'kill -9' > >>>>>>>> to '/Library/WebServer/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl = restart'. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> To fix the script, there is a change to how 'ps' functions = in Snow > >>>>>>>> Leopard.. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> basically change the instances of "ps -aux" in your script = to "ps aux". > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> To fix your CPU issue, I'd start looking into standard = troubleshooting > >>>>>>>> techniques.. looking at logs, looking for overgrown log files = etc.. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Donovan > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks for the input Donovan. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm not sure if I'm going to use it or not, at this point. = Its just an > >>>>>>>> avenue I'm looking at, unless there is a better solution. I = did notice, > >>>>>>>> however, that when WebDNA dies, the CPU hoovers around 60%, = so I'm not sure > >>>>>>>> this will even work when it acts up. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I've been looking at the logs trying to pin out down, but it = happens so > >>>>>>>> rarely that its hard to get a handle on it... :-( .. I think = all turn on > >>>>>>>> everything in the Prefs Technical section for a while to see = if I can catch > >>>>>>>> it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Rob > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>> the mailing list . > >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >> the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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