Re: [WebDNA] can webdna set the email header (w/[sendmail]) that
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It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = I use sendmail, on the WebDNA server, to relay mail to a valid email server where it is then sent. That way if the email bounces it goes to whatever account the "from" is set to at the mail server, and not back to the original WebDNA sendmail server. I'm not sure if this is what you're trying to do, but you should keep a few things in mind. If you're trying to relay mail directly out of sendmail to an end recipient, from a non valid email server, with no valid MX or reverse records, the odds are that most of your email is going to bounce, as most of the servers, now, do checks for valid email servers before accepting your mail. Email, when it bounces, is returned to the "from" address in the return path. Rob On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Govinda wrote: >>> [snip] We want to control where it gets sent, hopefully using webdna's [sendmail] >>> (where we create the original email). Is this possible? >> >> >> Govinda.. not quite sure what you are wanting to do exactly.. but >> errors should arrive back to your from account. >> Other than that, there is saveonfail/saveonsuccess params for sendmail.. which would let you find errored emails. >> Even PHP uses the From header to set the return-path field on Windows installs. > > > > What we want is that: > * when we send an email with [sendmail] that in case it bounces.. that we get the email back, but to a *different* address than the one we sent FROM. Sorry > > I was not super clear about that in my OP. > > I just looked for old posts on this topic, and I see Tom Duke, and Chris, saying, > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > " >> Chris, >> Hi - it would be great if we could specify the 'return-path' header using [sendmail]. This is usually overwritten by the MTA and set to the 'from' header. >> From a shell command you can do this using the -f flag. Something to consider for the future perhaps. >> - Tom > >> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:48 PM,
wrote: >> Hi Tom! >> exact: the "from:" and "Return-Path:" are set to the same &from= address which is the correct way > >> On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:14, Tom Duke wrote: >> Chris, >> Hi - the benefit of being able to specify a 'return-path' header is that you add parameters to identify the email if it bounces - this can then be used to set up auto management of bounces. >> This is sometimes referred to as VERP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_envelope_return_path). >> - Tom > >> Hi Tom! ok, i note this on the to-do list. > >> - chris > " > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ...which to me means that Tom expects to NOT be able to do what I want to do (see the * near the top). > Do you concur?, that I cannot use [sendmail] to cause bounced email to get re-sent to an address *different than* the address I send FROM? > > Aaron, thanks! We'll write custom text files instead of using [sendmail] if we have to. First I am just gathering info. > > Thanks > -Govinda--------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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I use sendmail, on the WebDNA server, to relay mail to a valid email server where it is then sent. That way if the email bounces it goes to whatever account the "from" is set to at the mail server, and not back to the original WebDNA sendmail server. I'm not sure if this is what you're trying to do, but you should keep a few things in mind. If you're trying to relay mail directly out of sendmail to an end recipient, from a non valid email server, with no valid MX or reverse records, the odds are that most of your email is going to bounce, as most of the servers, now, do checks for valid email servers before accepting your mail. Email, when it bounces, is returned to the "from" address in the return path. Rob On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Govinda wrote: >>> [snip] We want to control where it gets sent, hopefully using webdna's [sendmail] >>> (where we create the original email). Is this possible? >> >> >> Govinda.. not quite sure what you are wanting to do exactly.. but >> errors should arrive back to your from account. >> Other than that, there is saveonfail/saveonsuccess params for sendmail.. which would let you find errored emails. >> Even PHP uses the From header to set the return-path field on Windows installs. > > > > What we want is that: > * when we send an email with [sendmail] that in case it bounces.. that we get the email back, but to a *different* address than the one we sent FROM. Sorry > > I was not super clear about that in my OP. > > I just looked for old posts on this topic, and I see Tom Duke, and Chris, saying, > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > " >> Chris, >> Hi - it would be great if we could specify the 'return-path' header using [sendmail]. This is usually overwritten by the MTA and set to the 'from' header. >> From a shell command you can do this using the -f flag. Something to consider for the future perhaps. >> - Tom > >> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:48 PM, wrote: >> Hi Tom! >> exact: the "from:" and "Return-Path:" are set to the same &from= address which is the correct way > >> On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:14, Tom Duke wrote: >> Chris, >> Hi - the benefit of being able to specify a 'return-path' header is that you add parameters to identify the email if it bounces - this can then be used to set up auto management of bounces. >> This is sometimes referred to as VERP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_envelope_return_path). >> - Tom > >> Hi Tom! ok, i note this on the to-do list. > >> - chris > " > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ...which to me means that Tom expects to NOT be able to do what I want to do (see the * near the top). > Do you concur?, that I cannot use [sendmail] to cause bounced email to get re-sent to an address *different than* the address I send FROM? > > Aaron, thanks! We'll write custom text files instead of using [sendmail] if we have to. First I am just gathering info. > > Thanks > -Govinda--------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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