Re: [WebDNA] Old Problem, the exclamation point

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2014


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 111647
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texte = --Apple-Mail-92B7BEB1-F879-4294-A506-5F725C8FD381 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trust me on this --you aren't the only one! Sent from my iPad > On Oct 31, 2014, at 6:54 AM, Steve Braun wrote: >=20 > Thanks Terry. This has always confused me. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Stephen F Braun > sbraun1@twcny.rr.com >=20 >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Terry Wilson wrote:= >> The first one.=20 >>=20 >> Use [url] when certain characters would trip up the code. Remember it bec= ause you'll need [url] to fix spaces in urls. But anywhere a &, $, !, space,= etc could be a problem: commonly, all search/append/replace/delete tags (&)= , showif/hideif (!), urls. Note that you don't have to waste your time url'i= ng every damn value written to a db. If you control the value and know it's c= lean, like a T or F or a number or word from a value list, no need. When a u= ser inputs or you pull something like company names from a db, that's when y= ou need it. >>=20 >> [input] is used when quote marks and returns will trip things up. Values w= ithin tags and in java scripts. Not just in but also in a= ll other tags, i.e., value=3D"[input][whatever][/input]" -- same ide= a about js. >>=20 >> [convertchars] to make things right again when you display text on your p= age. >>=20 >> Terry >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 5:27 AM, Steve Braun wrote: >>>=20 >>> So which is the correct format when using >>> or >>> [input][/input] >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> And Tom says that the issue may be in my display template not on my inpu= t template. I'm using convertchars tag? Is that correct? >>> [convertchars][lTEXT_1][/convertchars] >>>=20 >>> Thanksomuch, >>> sfb >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Stephen F Braun >>> sbraun1@twcny.rr.com >>>=20 >>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Tom Duke wrote= : >>>> Steve, >>>>=20 >>>> Hi - all looks ok to me, though I would generally use [input] tags for t= ext inputs: >>>>=20 >>>> >>>>=20 >>>> Maybe the issue is on your display template, not the form / data input t= emplate. >>>>=20 >>>> - Tom >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This message i= s sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscrib= e, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Report= ing: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- This message i= s sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscrib= e, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Report= ing: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- This message is= sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe= , E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporti= ng: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message is s= ent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E= -mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting:= support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail-92B7BEB1-F879-4294-A506-5F725C8FD381 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Trust me on this --you aren't the only= one!

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 31, 2014, at 6:54 AM, St= eve Braun <sbraun1@twcny.rr.com> wrote:



On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Terry Wilson= <terry@terryfic.com> wrote:
The first one. 

Use [u= rl] when certain characters would trip up the code. Remember it because you'= ll need [url] to fix spaces in urls. But anywhere a &, $, !, space, etc c= ould be a problem: commonly, all search/append/replace/delete tags (&), s= howif/hideif (!), urls. Note that you don't have to waste your time url'ing e= very damn value written to a db. If you control the value and know it's clea= n, like a T or F or a number or word from a value list, no need. When a user= inputs or you pull something like company names from a db, that's when you n= eed it.

[input] is used when quote marks and returns will trip things= up. Values within <input> tags and in java scripts. Not just in <t= ext area> but also in all other <input> tags, i.e., value=3D"[input= ][whatever][/input]" -- same idea about js.

[conver= tchars] to make things right again when you display text on your page.
=

Terry

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 31, 2014, at 5:27 AM, Steve Braun <sbraun1@twcny.rr.com> w= rote:

So w= hich is the correct format when using <textarea> for data entry?
<textarea name=3D"TEXT_1"  cols=3D"115" rows=3D"5">[input][TEXT= _1][/input]</textarea>
or
[input]<textarea name=3D"TEXT_1"&nb= sp; cols=3D"115" rows=3D"5">[TEXT_1]</textarea>[/input]
or
&l= t;textarea name=3D"TEXT_1"  cols=3D"115" rows=3D"5">[url][TEXT_1][/u= rl]</textarea>
or
[input]<textarea name=3D"TEXT_1"  cols= =3D"115" rows=3D"5">[url][TEXT_1][/url]</textarea>[/input]

<= br>
And Tom says that the issue may be in my display template not on my input=20 template.   I'm using convertchars tag?    Is that corre= ct?
[convertchars][lTEXT_1][/convertchars]

Thanksomuch,
sfb
=



Stephen F Braun
sbraun1@tw= cny.rr.com

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Tom Duke <tom@revolutionaries.ie> wrote:
Steve,

Hi - a= ll looks ok to me, though I would generally use [input] tags for text inputs= :

 = ;   &l= t;input value=3D"[input][LINK_URL][/input]" type=3D"text" name=3D"LINK_URL"&= gt;

Maybe the issue is on your display te= mplate, not the form / data input template.

- Tom


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  1. Re: [WebDNA] Old Problem, the exclamation point (Terry Wilson 2014)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] Old Problem, the exclamation point (Terry Wilson 2014)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] Old Problem, the exclamation point (Donovan Brooke 2014)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] Old Problem, the exclamation point (Terry Wilson 2014)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] Old Problem, the exclamation point (Steve Braun 2014)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] Old Problem, the exclamation point (Terry Wilson 2014)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] Old Problem, the exclamation point (Donovan Brooke 2014)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] Old Problem, the exclamation point (Steve Braun 2014)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] Old Problem, the exclamation point (Tom Duke 2014)
  10. [WebDNA] Old Problem, the exclamation point (Steve Braun 2014)
--Apple-Mail-92B7BEB1-F879-4294-A506-5F725C8FD381 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trust me on this --you aren't the only one! Sent from my iPad > On Oct 31, 2014, at 6:54 AM, Steve Braun wrote: >=20 > Thanks Terry. This has always confused me. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Stephen F Braun > sbraun1@twcny.rr.com >=20 >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Terry Wilson wrote:= >> The first one.=20 >>=20 >> Use [url] when certain characters would trip up the code. Remember it bec= ause you'll need [url] to fix spaces in urls. But anywhere a &, $, !, space,= etc could be a problem: commonly, all search/append/replace/delete tags (&)= , showif/hideif (!), urls. Note that you don't have to waste your time url'i= ng every damn value written to a db. If you control the value and know it's c= lean, like a T or F or a number or word from a value list, no need. When a u= ser inputs or you pull something like company names from a db, that's when y= ou need it. >>=20 >> [input] is used when quote marks and returns will trip things up. Values w= ithin tags and in java scripts. Not just in but also in a= ll other tags, i.e., value=3D"[input][whatever][/input]" -- same ide= a about js. >>=20 >> [convertchars] to make things right again when you display text on your p= age. >>=20 >> Terry >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 5:27 AM, Steve Braun wrote: >>>=20 >>> So which is the correct format when using >>> or >>> [input][/input] >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> And Tom says that the issue may be in my display template not on my inpu= t template. I'm using convertchars tag? Is that correct? >>> [convertchars][lTEXT_1][/convertchars] >>>=20 >>> Thanksomuch, >>> sfb >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Stephen F Braun >>> sbraun1@twcny.rr.com >>>=20 >>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Tom Duke wrote= : >>>> Steve, >>>>=20 >>>> Hi - all looks ok to me, though I would generally use [input] tags for t= ext inputs: >>>>=20 >>>> [input][LINK_URL][/input]" type=3D"text" name=3D"LI= NK_URL"> >>>>=20 >>>> Maybe the issue is on your display template, not the form / data input t= emplate. >>>>=20 >>>> - Tom >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This message i= s sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscrib= e, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Report= ing: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- This message i= s sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscrib= e, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Report= ing: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- This message is= sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe= , E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporti= ng: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message is s= ent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E= -mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting:= support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail-92B7BEB1-F879-4294-A506-5F725C8FD381 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Trust me on this --you aren't the only= one!

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 31, 2014, at 6:54 AM, St= eve Braun <sbraun1@twcny.rr.com> wrote:



On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Terry Wilson= <terry@terryfic.com> wrote:
The first one. 

Use [u= rl] when certain characters would trip up the code. Remember it because you'= ll need [url] to fix spaces in urls. But anywhere a &, $, !, space, etc c= ould be a problem: commonly, all search/append/replace/delete tags (&), s= howif/hideif (!), urls. Note that you don't have to waste your time url'ing e= very damn value written to a db. If you control the value and know it's clea= n, like a T or F or a number or word from a value list, no need. When a user= inputs or you pull something like company names from a db, that's when you n= eed it.

[input] is used when quote marks and returns will trip things= up. Values within <input> tags and in java scripts. Not just in <t= ext area> but also in all other <input> tags, i.e., value=3D"[input= ][whatever][/input]" -- same idea about js.

[conver= tchars] to make things right again when you display text on your page.
=

Terry

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 31, 2014, at 5:27 AM, Steve Braun <sbraun1@twcny.rr.com> w= rote:

So w= hich is the correct format when using <textarea> for data entry?
<textarea name=3D"TEXT_1"  cols=3D"115" rows=3D"5">[input][TEXT= _1][/input]</textarea>
or
[input]<textarea name=3D"TEXT_1"&nb= sp; cols=3D"115" rows=3D"5">[TEXT_1]</textarea>[/input]
or
&l= t;textarea name=3D"TEXT_1"  cols=3D"115" rows=3D"5">[url][TEXT_1][/u= rl]</textarea>
or
[input]<textarea name=3D"TEXT_1"  cols= =3D"115" rows=3D"5">[url][TEXT_1][/url]</textarea>[/input]

<= br>
And Tom says that the issue may be in my display template not on my input=20 template.   I'm using convertchars tag?    Is that corre= ct?
[convertchars][lTEXT_1][/convertchars]

Thanksomuch,
sfb
=



Stephen F Braun
sbraun1@tw= cny.rr.com

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Tom Duke <tom@revolutionaries.ie> wrote:
Steve,

Hi - a= ll looks ok to me, though I would generally use [input] tags for text inputs= :

 = ;   &l= t;input value=3D"[input][LINK_URL][/input]" type=3D"text" name=3D"LINK_URL"&= gt;

Maybe the issue is on your display te= mplate, not the form / data input template.

- Tom


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