Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2015
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = It doesn't cost anything. The founditems loop is just moved up a few = lines. [text]bccaddresses=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS],[/founditems][/text] [SendMail = to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[bccaddresses]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dse= nd to many&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] Terry On Mar 25, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Steve Raslevich =
wrote: > Hi Terry >=20 > Seems to work fine if the addys are in a single variable but would add = another step in the send process as [founditems] would now need to run = before the [sendmail] to set a variable with a given group of addys.=20 >=20 >> Shingles is better now, thanks, what with a prescribed pain killer. >> =20 >>=20 >> Topical Lydocaine helped me a lot >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Terry Wilson wrote: >> I guess I glossed over the 30K pieces of mail part. Yes, that would = drag on forever. >>=20 >> I have a site where people can enter two email addresses, separated = with a comma, in the email field and it seems to work okay. So that's a = comma coming out of a database. I know yours is hard coded within a = founditems loop; just don't know what the difference would be. Have you = tried setting a variable with all the addys just before the sendmail and = using that instead? Might work? >>=20 >> Shingles is better now, thanks, what with a prescribed pain killer. >>=20 >> Terry >>=20 >> On Mar 24, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Steve Raslevich=20 >> >> wrote: >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >>> Hi Terry, >>>=20 >>> Sorry to hear you are dealing with shingles and ditto on = recommendation to others speaking from experience as well. >>>=20 >>> I originally sent 30000 emails one by one - took hours. Breaking = into groups in only takes minutes. Taxing on WebDNA and our mail server. >>>=20 >>> I found the [raw],[/raw] fix after discovering that only the first = email was sent if I only put a comma between the emailaddress within a = [founditems] loop and if I manually typed in multiple addresses = separated by a comma then all were sent. >>>=20 >>> Hope you are feeling better soon. >>>=20 >>> Steve >>>=20 >>> Terry Wilson wrote: >>> =20 >>>=20 >>>> This isn't how I handle such multiple emails. I do it thusly: >>>>=20 >>>> search >>>> founditems >>>> sendmail >>>> /sendmail >>>> /founditems >>>> /search >>>>=20 >>>> Why not try that. For some reason, early on I figured it was just = cleaner to send individual emails. Or maybe it was breaking on a bad = email; I really don't remember that far back. That also gives you a = chance to grab other variables from the founditems loop, like "Hello = [firstname],". Makes no difference to the mail server. Or perhaps it = makes it easier for the mail server; I wouldn't know about that. For = sure it will take WebDNA longer to process the page. But so what. >>>>=20 >>>> As for the comma, that's just bizarre. I use commas all the time, = no problem (but they aren't within a founditems loop). = BCC,CC,Sender,Reply-to.. use them all; never seen a problem. Even more = curious - how did you come up with the idea to even try [raw]? That's = like wondering how anyone ever came up with the idea of cooking an = artichoke bud. >>>>=20 >>>> BTW anyone who ever had chicken pox should get the shingles = vaccine. You can guess why I'm sending this advice... >>>>=20 >>>> Terry >>>>=20 >>>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Kenneth Grome >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>>> These are good things to know. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I think they should be added to the documentation since they are >>>>> clearly unexpected behavior, at least for many of us. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>=20 >>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>=20 >>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On 03/24/2015 11:01 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >>>>> =20 >>>>> =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> I have no idea for the behavior but do know that only the first = BCC >>>>>> email address will be sent if the comma separating the addresses = in a >>>>>> [founditems] is now within [raw] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Another finding about sending to multiple addresses with = [sendmail] is >>>>>> that if one email address is an invalid formatted address, the = email is >>>>>> not sent to any of the addresses. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I send out an email newsletter to @ 30,000 addresses and break = the >>>>>> sending down to groups of 35 - 50. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> But I still do not understand why [raw],[/raw] would modify the >>>>>>> comma (or the code around it) in any way, much less in a way = that >>>>>>> would cause the sendmail to work properly with it but not = without it. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Apparently it has some kind of reaction with the founditems? = Does >>>>>>> it introduce an invisible character or something? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 03/24/2015 10:41 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> If not using [founditems] and sending to multiple BCC or TO's = the syntax >>>>>>>> would look like this: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> = to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3Daddy1@example.com,addy2@example.com,addy3@exam= ple.com&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D >>>>>>>> = [founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw],[/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&sub= ject=3Dsend >>>>>>>> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Had the same problem with BCC, wrapping the , (comma) in = [raw] >>>>>>>>>>> required between the BCC addresses fixed it for me. Also = works >>>>>>>>>>> for TO: >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Good tip, thanks Steve. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> I wish I could understand how this works. Putting something >>>>>>>>> inside a raw context is not supposed to change it. The raw >>>>>>>>> context encloses only two chars, a comma and a space, correct? >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On 03/23/2015 05:56 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 09:09, Steve Raslevich >>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>> WebDNA@northernsoundandlight.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Stuart, >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D >>>>>>>>>>> [founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw], >>>>>>>>>>> [/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend to >>>>>>>>>>> many]&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you sending one email to one recipient or one email to = many >>>>>>>>>>>> recipients ? >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> I had a problem with the latter, making it one to one = solved >>>>>>>>>>>> the problem, but I don=92t know what was causing it. >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:13, Diane Blackmore >>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>> diane@cohesion.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Frequently, and increasingly, the Emailer seems to be = breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>> the format of the emails resulting in garbled receipts etc >>>>>>>>>>>>> being sent to customers of our clients. This is happening = now >>>>>>>>>>>>> more often than not - 20-30 times a day in one case, and = needs >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be resolved so I=92d be interested if anyone knows of >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything buggy here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> The files that Emailer is sending are fine both before and >>>>>>>>>>>>> after sending. The content of the email contains html and = so >>>>>>>>>>>>> is being sent as file that is written to the EmailFolder - = I >>>>>>>>>>>>> stress that the format of the email can=92t be at issue as = it >>>>>>>>>>>>> often comes through OK. It tends to happen more on larger >>>>>>>>>>>>> files, but none of them contain anything more than 11kb. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Images are absolute ref=92d back to the server etc so no = images >>>>>>>>>>>>> are bing sent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be that the problem is not with Emailer but is >>>>>>>>>>>>> instead breaking down between Emailer and the localhost = mail >>>>>>>>>>>>> server (not sure what we're using for this but its on the = same >>>>>>>>>>>>> server somewhere). >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> WebDNA version is *unix-Linux Intel Apache Module version >>>>>>>>>>>>> 6.2.1* on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.12.27-xenU = x86_64), >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache2, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Package updates etc were run last week but the problem = existed >>>>>>>>>>>>> before then. Emailer is set to send every 20 ticks, and = is >>>>>>>>>>>>> not really busy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> It has been suggested that we could replace Emailer with >>>>>>>>>>>>> something that does the same job but I=92d be interested = to find >>>>>>>>>>>>> out if there=92s a quicker fix before I go down that bumpy = path. >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Sandra Hillyard< >>>>>>>>>>>>> shillyard@xtra.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Best Blooms Florist"< >>>>>>>>>>>>> website@bestblooms.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Best Blooms Florist Receipt >>>>>>>>>>>>> BCC:=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> diane@cohesion.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Organization: Best Blooms Florist >>>>>>>>>>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>>>>>>>>>>>> boundary=3D"----=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw" >>>>>>>>>>>>> X-Priority: 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw >>>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; >>>>>>>>>>>>> charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >>>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> This message is in a format that cannot be read by your = email >>>>>>>>>>>>> software. 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It doesn't cost anything. The founditems loop is just moved up a few = lines. [text]bccaddresses=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS],[/founditems][/text] [SendMail = to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[bccaddresses]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dse= nd to many&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] Terry On Mar 25, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Steve Raslevich = wrote: > Hi Terry >=20 > Seems to work fine if the addys are in a single variable but would add = another step in the send process as [founditems] would now need to run = before the [sendmail] to set a variable with a given group of addys.=20 >=20 >> Shingles is better now, thanks, what with a prescribed pain killer. >> =20 >>=20 >> Topical Lydocaine helped me a lot >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Terry Wilson wrote: >> I guess I glossed over the 30K pieces of mail part. Yes, that would = drag on forever. >>=20 >> I have a site where people can enter two email addresses, separated = with a comma, in the email field and it seems to work okay. So that's a = comma coming out of a database. I know yours is hard coded within a = founditems loop; just don't know what the difference would be. Have you = tried setting a variable with all the addys just before the sendmail and = using that instead? Might work? >>=20 >> Shingles is better now, thanks, what with a prescribed pain killer. >>=20 >> Terry >>=20 >> On Mar 24, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Steve Raslevich=20 >> >> wrote: >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >>> Hi Terry, >>>=20 >>> Sorry to hear you are dealing with shingles and ditto on = recommendation to others speaking from experience as well. >>>=20 >>> I originally sent 30000 emails one by one - took hours. Breaking = into groups in only takes minutes. Taxing on WebDNA and our mail server. >>>=20 >>> I found the [raw],[/raw] fix after discovering that only the first = email was sent if I only put a comma between the emailaddress within a = [founditems] loop and if I manually typed in multiple addresses = separated by a comma then all were sent. >>>=20 >>> Hope you are feeling better soon. >>>=20 >>> Steve >>>=20 >>> Terry Wilson wrote: >>> =20 >>>=20 >>>> This isn't how I handle such multiple emails. I do it thusly: >>>>=20 >>>> search >>>> founditems >>>> sendmail >>>> /sendmail >>>> /founditems >>>> /search >>>>=20 >>>> Why not try that. For some reason, early on I figured it was just = cleaner to send individual emails. Or maybe it was breaking on a bad = email; I really don't remember that far back. That also gives you a = chance to grab other variables from the founditems loop, like "Hello = [firstname],". Makes no difference to the mail server. Or perhaps it = makes it easier for the mail server; I wouldn't know about that. For = sure it will take WebDNA longer to process the page. But so what. >>>>=20 >>>> As for the comma, that's just bizarre. I use commas all the time, = no problem (but they aren't within a founditems loop). = BCC,CC,Sender,Reply-to.. use them all; never seen a problem. Even more = curious - how did you come up with the idea to even try [raw]? That's = like wondering how anyone ever came up with the idea of cooking an = artichoke bud. >>>>=20 >>>> BTW anyone who ever had chicken pox should get the shingles = vaccine. You can guess why I'm sending this advice... >>>>=20 >>>> Terry >>>>=20 >>>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Kenneth Grome >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>>> These are good things to know. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I think they should be added to the documentation since they are >>>>> clearly unexpected behavior, at least for many of us. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>=20 >>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>=20 >>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On 03/24/2015 11:01 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >>>>> =20 >>>>> =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> I have no idea for the behavior but do know that only the first = BCC >>>>>> email address will be sent if the comma separating the addresses = in a >>>>>> [founditems] is now within [raw] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Another finding about sending to multiple addresses with = [sendmail] is >>>>>> that if one email address is an invalid formatted address, the = email is >>>>>> not sent to any of the addresses. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I send out an email newsletter to @ 30,000 addresses and break = the >>>>>> sending down to groups of 35 - 50. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> But I still do not understand why [raw],[/raw] would modify the >>>>>>> comma (or the code around it) in any way, much less in a way = that >>>>>>> would cause the sendmail to work properly with it but not = without it. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Apparently it has some kind of reaction with the founditems? = Does >>>>>>> it introduce an invisible character or something? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 03/24/2015 10:41 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> If not using [founditems] and sending to multiple BCC or TO's = the syntax >>>>>>>> would look like this: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> = to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3Daddy1@example.com,addy2@example.com,addy3@exam= ple.com&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D >>>>>>>> = [founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw],[/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&sub= ject=3Dsend >>>>>>>> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Had the same problem with BCC, wrapping the , (comma) in = [raw] >>>>>>>>>>> required between the BCC addresses fixed it for me. Also = works >>>>>>>>>>> for TO: >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Good tip, thanks Steve. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> I wish I could understand how this works. Putting something >>>>>>>>> inside a raw context is not supposed to change it. The raw >>>>>>>>> context encloses only two chars, a comma and a space, correct? >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On 03/23/2015 05:56 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 09:09, Steve Raslevich >>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>> WebDNA@northernsoundandlight.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Stuart, >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D >>>>>>>>>>> [founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw], >>>>>>>>>>> [/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend to >>>>>>>>>>> many]&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you sending one email to one recipient or one email to = many >>>>>>>>>>>> recipients ? >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> I had a problem with the latter, making it one to one = solved >>>>>>>>>>>> the problem, but I don=92t know what was causing it. >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:13, Diane Blackmore >>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>> diane@cohesion.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Frequently, and increasingly, the Emailer seems to be = breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>> the format of the emails resulting in garbled receipts etc >>>>>>>>>>>>> being sent to customers of our clients. This is happening = now >>>>>>>>>>>>> more often than not - 20-30 times a day in one case, and = needs >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be resolved so I=92d be interested if anyone knows of >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything buggy here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> The files that Emailer is sending are fine both before and >>>>>>>>>>>>> after sending. The content of the email contains html and = so >>>>>>>>>>>>> is being sent as file that is written to the EmailFolder - = I >>>>>>>>>>>>> stress that the format of the email can=92t be at issue as = it >>>>>>>>>>>>> often comes through OK. It tends to happen more on larger >>>>>>>>>>>>> files, but none of them contain anything more than 11kb. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Images are absolute ref=92d back to the server etc so no = images >>>>>>>>>>>>> are bing sent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be that the problem is not with Emailer but is >>>>>>>>>>>>> instead breaking down between Emailer and the localhost = mail >>>>>>>>>>>>> server (not sure what we're using for this but its on the = same >>>>>>>>>>>>> server somewhere). >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> WebDNA version is *unix-Linux Intel Apache Module version >>>>>>>>>>>>> 6.2.1* on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.12.27-xenU = x86_64), >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache2, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Package updates etc were run last week but the problem = existed >>>>>>>>>>>>> before then. Emailer is set to send every 20 ticks, and = is >>>>>>>>>>>>> not really busy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> It has been suggested that we could replace Emailer with >>>>>>>>>>>>> something that does the same job but I=92d be interested = to find >>>>>>>>>>>>> out if there=92s a quicker fix before I go down that bumpy = path. >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Sandra Hillyard< >>>>>>>>>>>>> shillyard@xtra.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Best Blooms Florist"< >>>>>>>>>>>>> website@bestblooms.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Best Blooms Florist Receipt >>>>>>>>>>>>> BCC:=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> diane@cohesion.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Organization: Best Blooms Florist >>>>>>>>>>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>>>>>>>>>>>> boundary=3D"----=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw" >>>>>>>>>>>>> X-Priority: 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw >>>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; >>>>>>>>>>>>> charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >>>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> This message is in a format that cannot be read by your = email >>>>>>>>>>>>> software. 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