Re: [WebDNA] "Safe Write for Database" setting....

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2016


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 112628
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texte = 211 ------=_Part_640510_538627000.1458076197642 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I already using [COMMITDATABASE db=3DFileName] in all the admin pages where= they edit these ads... Problem still pops up every now and then, like today again. Thoughts on the "Safe Write" setting?=20 On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 4:01 PM, Stuart Tremain = wrote: =20 From memory, there was a bug in =E2=80=9CAutomatically commit databases to= disk after modification=E2=80=9D, I wonder if this was associated with you= r problem ? You can always add=C2=A0[COMMITDATABASE db=3DFileName] after the modificati= on just to make sure. Kind regards Stuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.au On 16 Mar 2016, at 07:15, Rich Kwas wrote: Is it safe to disable ""Safe Write for Database" in Preferences??? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Safe Write DB: Enabled by default. Sets the WebDNA engine to create a temporary file when = writing the contents of a database to disk. The temporary file contents are= then moved to the original database file after the entire database is comp= letely flushed to disk. This helps to eliminate corruption of the original = database file if there is an interruption during the database write process= .. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D If I disable this setting will all changes be written to the db on the HD i= mmediately, =C2=A0without that need for a temporary file? I've been having this issue "again" where a client says they make changes t= o ad listings stored in the database, but then all the changes are gone a f= ew moments later. Like they never were altered in the first place.... This site has been for over 10 years and the admin area has not been change= d recently or much over that time span... There is no consistency to this issue.It happens (like today) but may not h= appen for days or weeks. I'm wondering if this "temporary file" and the original database on disk ar= e somehow under some circumstances getting out of sync. The db isn't that large, having 2,111 records,151 Fields and using 4,759K o= f ram. I'm wondering if disabling "Safe Write" might be an option to try and preve= nt this in the future. Very frustrating for the client.I can't seem to duplicate it myself,but I b= elieve them when they say it happens.I may have posted about =C2=A0this iss= ue in the past as well. I'm on Windows Server2008 using vers.6.2I have nearly 1gb of unused ram on = the server, plenty of hard drive space.... I've attached a screen capture of my Preferences in case anything else can = be tinkered with. ---------------------------------------------------------This message is se= nt to you because you are subscribed tothe mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-= mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.usBug Reporting: = support@webdna.us ---------------------------------------------------------This message is se= nt to you because you are subscribed tothe mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-= mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.usBug Reporting: = support@webdna.us ------=_Part_640510_538627000.1458076197642 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I already using [COMM= ITDATABASE db=3DFileName] in all the admin pages where they edit these ads.= ...

= Problem still pops up every no= w and then, like today again.

Tho= ughts on the "Safe Write" setting?


On Tuesday= , March 15, 2016 4:01 PM, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:<= br>


From memory, there was a bug in =E2=80=9CAutomatically commit= databases to disk after modification=E2=80=9D, I wonder if this was associ= ated with your problem ?

You can always add&= nbsp;[COMMITDATABASE db=3DFileName] after the modification just to make sur= e.

Kind regards

Stu= art Tremain
IDFK Web Developments
AUSTRALIA



=

On 16 Mar 2016, at 07:15, R= ich Kwas <richkwasniewski@yahoo.com> wrote:
Is it safe to disable ""Safe Write for Database" in= Preferences???

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Safe Write DB:
Enabled by default. Sets the We= bDNA engine to create a temporary file when writing the contents of a datab= ase to disk. The temporary file contents are then moved to the original dat= abase file after the entire database is completely flushed to disk. This he= lps to eliminate corruption of the original database file if there is an in= terruption during the database write process.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

If I disable this setting will all changes be written to the db on the = HD immediately,  without that need for a temporary file?
<= div class=3D"yiv7544201727" dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7544201727yui_3_16_0_1_145= 8071741244_2537">

I've been having this issue "again" where a client says they make = changes to ad listings stored in the database, but then all the changes are= gone a few moments later. Like they never were altered in the first place.= ....

This site has= been for over 10 years and the admin area has not been changed recently or= much over that time span...

There is no consistency to this= issue.
It happens (like today) but may not happen f= or days or weeks.

I'm wondering if this "temporary file" and= the original database on disk are somehow under some circumstances getting= out of sync.

The db isn't that large, having 2,111 records,= 151 Fields and using 4,759K of ram.

I'm wondering if disab= ling "Safe Write" might be an option to try and prevent this in the future.=

Very frustrating for the client.I can't seem to duplicate i= t myself,but I believe them when they say it happens.I may have posted abou= t  this issue in the past as well.


I'm on Windows Server2008 us= ing vers.6.2
I have nearly 1gb of unused ram on the = server, plenty of hard drive space....


I've attached a screen captur= e of my Preferences in case anything else can be tinkered with.


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  1. Re: [WebDNA] "Safe Write for Database" setting.... (Terry Wilson 2016)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] "Safe Write for Database" setting.... ("Terry Wilson" 2016)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] "Safe Write for Database" setting.... (Donovan Brooke 2016)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] "Safe Write for Database" setting.... (Rich Kwas 2016)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] "Safe Write for Database" setting.... (Donovan Brooke 2016)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] "Safe Write for Database" setting.... (Stuart Tremain 2016)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] "Safe Write for Database" setting.... (Kenneth Grome 2016)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] "Safe Write for Database" setting.... (Rich Kwas 2016)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] "Safe Write for Database" setting.... (Stuart Tremain 2016)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] "Safe Write for Database" setting.... (Donovan Brooke 2016)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] "Safe Write for Database" setting.... (Rich Kwas 2016)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] "Safe Write for Database" setting.... (Stuart Tremain 2016)
211 ------=_Part_640510_538627000.1458076197642 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I already using [COMMITDATABASE db=3DFileName] in all the admin pages where= they edit these ads... Problem still pops up every now and then, like today again. Thoughts on the "Safe Write" setting?=20 On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 4:01 PM, Stuart Tremain = wrote: =20 From memory, there was a bug in =E2=80=9CAutomatically commit databases to= disk after modification=E2=80=9D, I wonder if this was associated with you= r problem ? You can always add=C2=A0[COMMITDATABASE db=3DFileName] after the modificati= on just to make sure. Kind regards Stuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.au On 16 Mar 2016, at 07:15, Rich Kwas wrote: Is it safe to disable ""Safe Write for Database" in Preferences??? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Safe Write DB: Enabled by default. Sets the WebDNA engine to create a temporary file when = writing the contents of a database to disk. The temporary file contents are= then moved to the original database file after the entire database is comp= letely flushed to disk. This helps to eliminate corruption of the original = database file if there is an interruption during the database write process= .. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D If I disable this setting will all changes be written to the db on the HD i= mmediately, =C2=A0without that need for a temporary file? I've been having this issue "again" where a client says they make changes t= o ad listings stored in the database, but then all the changes are gone a f= ew moments later. Like they never were altered in the first place.... This site has been for over 10 years and the admin area has not been change= d recently or much over that time span... There is no consistency to this issue.It happens (like today) but may not h= appen for days or weeks. I'm wondering if this "temporary file" and the original database on disk ar= e somehow under some circumstances getting out of sync. The db isn't that large, having 2,111 records,151 Fields and using 4,759K o= f ram. I'm wondering if disabling "Safe Write" might be an option to try and preve= nt this in the future. Very frustrating for the client.I can't seem to duplicate it myself,but I b= elieve them when they say it happens.I may have posted about =C2=A0this iss= ue in the past as well. I'm on Windows Server2008 using vers.6.2I have nearly 1gb of unused ram on = the server, plenty of hard drive space.... I've attached a screen capture of my Preferences in case anything else can = be tinkered with. ---------------------------------------------------------This message is se= nt to you because you are subscribed tothe mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-= mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.usBug Reporting: = support@webdna.us ---------------------------------------------------------This message is se= nt to you because you are subscribed tothe mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-= mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.usBug Reporting: = support@webdna.us ------=_Part_640510_538627000.1458076197642 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I already using [COMM= ITDATABASE db=3DFileName] in all the admin pages where they edit these ads.= ...

= Problem still pops up every no= w and then, like today again.

Tho= ughts on the "Safe Write" setting?


On Tuesday= , March 15, 2016 4:01 PM, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:<= br>


From memory, there was a bug in =E2=80=9CAutomatically commit= databases to disk after modification=E2=80=9D, I wonder if this was associ= ated with your problem ?

You can always add&= nbsp;[COMMITDATABASE db=3DFileName] after the modification just to make sur= e.

Kind regards

Stu= art Tremain
IDFK Web Developments
AUSTRALIA



=

On 16 Mar 2016, at 07:15, R= ich Kwas <richkwasniewski@yahoo.com> wrote:
Is it safe to disable ""Safe Write for Database" in= Preferences???

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Safe Write DB:
Enabled by default. Sets the We= bDNA engine to create a temporary file when writing the contents of a datab= ase to disk. The temporary file contents are then moved to the original dat= abase file after the entire database is completely flushed to disk. This he= lps to eliminate corruption of the original database file if there is an in= terruption during the database write process.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

If I disable this setting will all changes be written to the db on the = HD immediately,  without that need for a temporary file?
<= div class=3D"yiv7544201727" dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7544201727yui_3_16_0_1_145= 8071741244_2537">

I've been having this issue "again" where a client says they make = changes to ad listings stored in the database, but then all the changes are= gone a few moments later. Like they never were altered in the first place.= ....

This site has= been for over 10 years and the admin area has not been changed recently or= much over that time span...

There is no consistency to this= issue.
It happens (like today) but may not happen f= or days or weeks.

I'm wondering if this "temporary file" and= the original database on disk are somehow under some circumstances getting= out of sync.

The db isn't that large, having 2,111 records,= 151 Fields and using 4,759K of ram.

I'm wondering if disab= ling "Safe Write" might be an option to try and prevent this in the future.=

Very frustrating for the client.I can't seem to duplicate i= t myself,but I believe them when they say it happens.I may have posted abou= t  this issue in the past as well.


I'm on Windows Server2008 us= ing vers.6.2
I have nearly 1gb of unused ram on the = server, plenty of hard drive space....


I've attached a screen captur= e of my Preferences in case anything else can be tinkered with.


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