Re: [WebDNA] An actual attempt to get WebDNA and MAMP Pro to work -
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2018
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = 1715 --Apple-Mail=_A786BB0A-96E3-45D1-923C-917D4628CD49 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I have tried both solutions. /Palle > On 18 Mar 2018, at 19.27, Brian Harrington
= wrote: >=20 > r u processing webdna ALL pages or with ??? >=20 > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: > So I removed all things WebDNA and did a clean install of WebDNA = Server, now my result is=E2=80=A6 >=20 > /Library/Server/Web/Data/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/ > /Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/Default/WebCatalog/ >=20 > Everything else is gone. Although I notice that you directory paths = are different. >=20 > When I load y IP/192.168.1.144 in my browser = it load and index.dna file but does not parse the WebDNA and the funny = stuff is that it=E2=80=99s an index.dna located at another directory = ("/Library/WebServer/Documents/index.dna=E2=80=9D) and not relevant to = the above directories. When I load it as (=E2=80=9C192.168.1.144/index.dna= =E2=80=9D) it works, but still from a = directory I did not expect being = ("/Library/WebServer/Documents/index.dna=E2=80=9D) although my Apache = conf file states=E2=80=A6 >=20 > DocumentRoot "/Library/WebServer/Documents" > >=20 > and not the (=E2=80=9CLibrary/Server/Web=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D) which I = just reinstalled. >=20 > Does it make sense or am I confusing myself in a was I have not = discovered yes ;) >=20 > /Palle >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 17 Mar 2018, at 10.56, Palle Bo Nielsen > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Michael >>=20 >> Maybe this can identify the problem=E2=80=A6 Let me walk through = where how my directories has been laid out by the installations. >>=20 >> /Library/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine = (/Library/Server/Web/Data/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine) >> /Library/WebServer/Documents/WebCatalog = (/Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/ >> /Library/WebServer/hosts = (/Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/index.dna >> /Library/WebServer/hosts/www.virtual-01.com = Not = established yet... >> /Library/WebServer/hosts/www.virtual-02.com = Not = established yet... >> /Library/WebServer/hosts/www.virtual-03.com = Not = established yet... >>=20 >> So already there we ara talking a different directory setup and in = this case I have not moved anything around. >>=20 >> /Palle >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 16 Mar 2018, at 21.07, Michael Davis > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Palle, >>>=20 >>> One suggestion might be to leave the WebCatalog directory at = /Library/WebServer/Documents/=20 >>> That way any time you want to access the global WebCatalog = preferences, you can do so outside of the virtual hosts you set up, for = instance by IP address. >>>=20 >>> If it were me, I would leave things where they were installed and = have a directory structure like this: >>>=20 >>> /Library/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine >>> /Library/WebServer/Documents/WebCatalog <- for accessing WebCat = preferences/settings. >>> /Library/WebServer/hosts <- make a = directory for your virtual hosts (optional/organizational) >>> /Library/WebServer/hosts/www.virtual-01.com = >>> /Library/WebServer/hosts/www.virtual-02.com = >>> /Library/WebServer/hosts/www.virtual-03.com = >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Leave the DocumentRoot alone. It's fine at the default. >>>=20 >>> Then use WebMin's Apache2 module to create your virtual sites. >>>=20 >>> One question I have is why do you have a WebCatalog and a WebDNA = directory? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Okay, then please explain how I can access the WebDNA folder with = all its configurations which is located at the other locations = (directories) other than the =E2=80=9CLibrary/WebServer/Documents=E2=80=9D= =E2=80=A6. >>>>=20 >>>> /Palle >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 16 Mar 2018, at 20.00, Brian Harrington > wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> stop changing the directories!!! >>>>>=20 >>>>> all u need is /Library/WebServer >>>>>=20 >>>>> NO data, web, sites=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 6:57 PM, Brian Harrington = > wrote: >>>>> just use /Library/WebServer >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>> Okay, so you convinced me to take the native Apache route within = macOS High Sierra. So I installed a fresh copy of WebDNA Server (most = recent version) and I figured our that the default Apache install wa = based on port 8080 which was why it dit not work initially. Anyhow i get = WebDNA to work when assigning a .dna but I need some guidance on the = following=E2=80=A6 >>>>>=20 >>>>> So Apache is per default installed here=E2=80=A6: >>>>> /etc/apache2/ >>>>>=20 >>>>> WebDNA Server is installed here=E2=80=A6: >>>>>=20 >>>>> /Library/Server/Web/Data/CGI-Executables/ >>>>> and >>>>> /Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/Default/WebCatalog/ >>>>> /Library/Server/Web/Data/Sites/Default/WebDNA/ >>>>>=20 >>>>> So when looking into Apache httpd.conf >>>>>=20 >>>>> DocumentRoot "/Library/WebServer/Documents" >>>>> >>>>>=20 >>>>> I need to direct it to where my Site and WebDNA root is located. = Should the above point to the =E2=80=9CLibrary/Sever=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D = directory or should I keep the =E2=80=9C/Library/WebServer=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D= .. I case off the latter then how can I open the Web Admin interface in = my webbrowser as it is located elsewhere? >>>>>=20 >>>>> /Palle >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 16 Mar 2018, at 03.38, Brian Harrington = > wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> u need to remember... everything is in there that u need but = apple is fighting you to get this running as they see it as a security = risk to their OS and reputation! >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I've seen Apple have the wrong allow/deny and their are other = variations sometimes.... apachectl configtest will tell you if they are = wrong but u will need to figure out what is correct! >>>>>> It's not easy running your own mac web server!!!=20 >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> >>>>>> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews >>>>>> AllowOverride None >>>>>> Order allow,deny >>>>>> Allow from all >>>>>> >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 2:20 AM, Brian Harrington = > wrote: >>>>>> the sever (apache) may not start or stay running if u have syntax = errors!!! use "apachectl configtest" >>>>>> plug away at the errors... >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 2:11 AM, Brian Harrington = > wrote: >>>>>> Terminal window.... u need to see "Syntax OK" >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> apachectl configtest >>>>>> Last login: Wed Mar 14 06:06:49 on console >>>>>> You have mail. >>>>>> Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ bharrington$ apachectl configtest >>>>>> httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified = domain name, using Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro.local for ServerName >>>>>> Syntax OK >>>>>> Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ bharrington$ apachectl start >>>>>> This operation requires root. >>>>>> Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ bharrington$ Sudo su - >>>>>> Password: >>>>>> Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ root# apachectl start >>>>>> org.apache.httpd: Already loaded >>>>>> Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ root#=20 >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 2:05 AM, Brian Harrington = > wrote: >>>>>> terminal window app is inside applications/Utiliteis >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> first type: Sudo su - >>>>>> enter pasword... >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> then type: apachectl start >>>>>> or >>>>>> apachectl restart >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> apachectl stop >>>>>> --------------------- >>>>>> type this... apachectl configtest >>>>>> it will help you locate problems!!! >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:50 PM, Stuart Tremain = > wrote: >>>>>> Palle >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Don=E2=80=99t be afraid of the CLI. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Restart Apache is so very easy >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Open terminal and then type the following: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> To start httpd: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> sudo /usr/sbin/apachectl start >>>>>> To stop httpd: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> sudo /usr/sbin/apachectl stop >>>>>> To restart httpd: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> sudo /usr/sbin/apachectl restart >>>>>> If you leave terminal open, all you have to do is hit the up = arrow key and the last command you typed into terminal will appear = again, just hit enter to execute it again. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> Pharoah Lane Software >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 16 Mar 2018, at 05:23, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I hear you loud and clear and I will try it out as well. But I = need some easy (UI) way to start/stop the Apache which is not CLI >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On 15 Mar 2018, at 03.19, Brian Harrington = > wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> also... u DON'T need MAMP!!! >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> apache is right there to edit manually!!! shift command g >>>>>>>> folder /private >>>>>>>> then open etc folder or go directly to it /etc >>>>>>>> inside etc is apache2 folder... >>>>>>>> GUI's from my exp don't work on mac regardless what THEY tell = you!!! >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 2:09 AM, Brian Harrington = > wrote: >>>>>>>> if u gonna run SSL"s... I create index on file index.tpl and = create files index.htm & index.html and put [include file=3Dindex.tpl] = as u will not b able to use the same file name in vhost an sslhost.... >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 2:02 AM, Brian Harrington = > wrote: >>>>>>>> why r u moving things around and why r u using index.dna makes = no sense to me... u r just creating problems! >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 1:58 AM, Brian Harrington = > wrote: >>>>>>>> u need to set .dna in webdna .config and prefs >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> ValidTemplateExtensions .html .htm .tpl .dna .txt >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> AddHandler webcatalog2-handler .html .htm .tpl .dna .txt >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> apache... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.tpl >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> note i don't use .dna LOL so not in apache but u will need to = add it.... >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi all >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> This is a new thread with a mission to get WebDNA to work with = MAMP Pro. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Prerequisites=E2=80=A6: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> - MacOS High Sierra 10.13.3 (not running "Apple Server App=E2=80=9D= ) >>>>>>>> - WebDNA Server 8.5.1 >>>>>>>> - MAMP Pro 4.4.1 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> DIRECTORIES >>>>>>>> =E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> o MAMP Location: >>>>>>>> /Applications/MAMP/ >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> o Site Root: >>>>>>>> /Applications/MAMP/htdocs/ >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> o WebDNA: >>>>>>>> /Applications/MAMP/htdocs/WebCatalog >>>>>>>> /Applications/MAMP/htdocs/WebDNA >>>>>>>> /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/WebCatalogEngine >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> o Apache: >>>>>>>> /Applications/MAMP/conf/apache/ >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> APACHE CONFIGURATION >>>>>>>> =E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2= =80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> /Applications/MAMP/conf/apache/httpd.conf >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Added the following=E2=80=A6 >>>>>>>> Include /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/WebCatalogEngine/webdna.conf >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Within the webdna.conf file which is located here, i... >>>>>>>> /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/WebCatalogEngine/webdna.conf >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> =E2=80=A6I modified the path to the WebDNA module >>>>>>>> LoadModule webcatalog2_module = /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/WebCatalogEngine/mod_WebDNA_apache2.4.so = >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Within this directory I create an index.dna file to test if = WebDNA parses >>>>>>>> /Applications/MAMP/htdocs/index.dna >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> When trying to load the following on my local network it fails. = Actually it downloads the index.dna file in stead of parsing it. >>>>>>>> 192.168.1.144/index.dna >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Doing the same with a normal index.html with no WebDNA = expectations (just a plain html) it loads just fine. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I am missing something. Any clue out there. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >>>>>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >>>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: = talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_A786BB0A-96E3-45D1-923C-917D4628CD49 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I have tried both solutions.
/Palle