Re: [WebDNA] Re-sending email

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2018

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texte = 1824--Apple-Mail=_26F324B7-CEF5-4B49-AD32-4837066336E3Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8Yes, all permissions are correct, and yes I have rebooted the server.I have the same problem on ALL my servers, so I must be doing something =wrong.Kind regardsStuart TremainPharoah Lane SoftwareAUSTRALIAwebdna@plsoftware.com.au> On 2 May 2018, at 10:11, Kenneth Grome =wrote:>=20> Do the files have permissions that allow WebDNA to read them?>=20> Sorry, I'm just guessing at this point. Can you reboot the server?> I've seen some strange glitches clear up over the years after a> simple reboot ...>=20> Regards,> Kenneth Grome> WebDNA Solutions> http://www.webdnasolutions.com> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration>=20>=20>=20> On 05/01/2018 07:04 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote:>> Hi Ken>>=20>> I have a couple of files in there with new =E2=80=98unused=E2=80=99 =names.>>=20>> Chris noted: "Acceptable" means that the filename ends in the word>> "done=E2=80=9D. So, do not remove the .done suffix.>>=20>> I gave your suggestion a try with no success.>>=20>> I have even tried bouncing the server.>>=20>>=20>> Kind regards>>=20>> Stuart Tremain>> Pharoah Lane Software>> AUSTRALIA>> webdna@plsoftware.com.au >>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>> On 2 May 2018, at 09:55, Kenneth Grome >> > wrote:>>>=20>>> Hi Stuart,>>>=20>>> This probably won't work but maybe it's worth a try:>>>=20>>> Remove the "done" from the file name, then move the file to the>>> EmailFolder, then rename it by appending "done". This is basically>>> what Chris says WebDNA is doing, so maybe if you do the same thing>>> it will be sent.>>>=20>>> If this does NOT work, I might suspect that the file name itself>>> is being checked (in the log file?) to see if the email has>>> already been sent, and if so it won't resend it. If this is>>> happening maybe it will send if you give the file a new name.>>>=20>>> Regards,>>> Kenneth Grome>>> WebDNA Solutions>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> On 05/01/2018 06:12 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote:>>>> Thanks Chris>>>>=20>>>> So theoretically I should be able to move a file from>>>> EmailCompleted to EmailFolder and it will get resent - is that>>>> correct ?>>>>=20>>>> If so why won=E2=80=99t it resend. 15251568715448TTdone was moved =from the>>>> EmailCompleted directory, the other two files are renamed copies>>>> of the same.>>>>=20>>>> I am using FCGI 8.6, but have the same problem on other versions.>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>> On 1 May 2018, at 21:25, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us>>>>> wrote:>>>>>=20>>>>> Hi Stuart! it is just a naming problem:>>>>>=20>>>>> WebDNA writes the mail to be sent in /EMailFolder. There is only>>>>> 1 thread sending email unless someone has sandboxing turned on>>>>> (version 6.2). The email thread sleeps for X ticks, then wakes>>>>> up, runs through the EMailFolder, processes one single>>>>> acceptable mail by forwarding it to a SMTP server, adds a log>>>>> entry in /EMailLog and moves the mail to /EMailCompleted, then>>>>> sleeps for X ticks, and repeats.>>>>>=20>>>>> "Acceptable" means that the filename ends in the word "done".>>>>> So, do not remove the .done suffixe.>>>>>=20>>>>> Processing the mail means the mail is sent through port 25 to>>>>> either a localhost SMTP server or an external one.>>>>>=20>>>>> It will only process one email file for each sleep/wake cycle.>>>>> So if the main thread starts to write a new email file while the>>>>> email thread is in the middle of a waking cycle, it does not>>>>> matter. It will be ignored until the main thread renames it to>>>>> end in "done", at which point the email thread will consider it>>>>> during the next wake cycle.>>>>>=20>>>>>> On May 1, 2018, at 09:31, Stuart Tremain>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>=20>>>>>> I have always had trouble re-sending email that have already>>>>>> been sent from WebDNA.>>>>>>=20>>>>>> I thought that it was as simple as dropping the email from>>>>>> WebDNA > EMailCompleted to WebDNA > EMailFolder after removing>>>>>> =E2=80=98done=E2=80=99, but it doesn=E2=80=99t seem to want to =play.>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Any hints ?>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Kind regards>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>>>> Pharoah Lane Software>>>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>>>> webdna@plsoftware.com.au >>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This>>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing>>>>> list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe,>>>>> E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting:>>>>> support@webdna.us >>>>=20>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing>>>> list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to:>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us archives:>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting:>>>> support@webdna.us>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------- This>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing>> list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to:>> talk-leave@webdna.us archives:>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting:>> support@webdna.us> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list talk@webdna.us> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us--Apple-Mail=_26F324B7-CEF5-4B49-AD32-4837066336E3Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8Yes, =all permissions are correct, and yes I have rebooted the server.

I have the same problem =on ALL my servers, so I must be doing something wrong.

Kind regards

Stuart Tremain

Pharoah Lane Software

AUSTRALIA

webdna@plsoftware.com.au

On 2 May 2018, at 10:11, Kenneth Grome <ken@webdnasolutions.com> wrote:

Do =the files have permissions that allow WebDNA to read them?

Sorry, I'm just guessing at this point. Can =you reboot the server?
I've seen some strange glitches =clear up over the years after a
simple reboot ...

Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
Web Database =Systems and Linux Server Administration

On 05/01/2018 07:04 PM, Stuart Tremain =wrote:
Hi Ken

I have a couple of files in there with new ==E2=80=98unused=E2=80=99 names.

Chris =noted: "Acceptable" means that the filename ends in the word
"done=E2=80=9D. So, do not remove the .done suffix.

I gave your suggestion a try with no =success.

I have even tried bouncing the =server.

Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
Pharoah Lane =Software
AUSTRALIA
webdna@plsoftware.com.au =<mailto:webdna@plsoftware.com.au>

On 2 May 2018, at =09:55, Kenneth Grome <ken@webdnasolutions.com
<mailto:ken@webdnasolutions.com>> wrote:

Hi Stuart,

This =probably won't work but maybe it's worth a try:

Remove the "done" from the file name, then move the file to =the
EmailFolder, then rename it by appending "done". This =is basically
what Chris says WebDNA is doing, so maybe if =you do the same thing
it will be sent.

If this does NOT work, I might suspect that the file name =itself
is being checked (in the log file?) to see if the =email has
already been sent, and if so it won't resend it. =If this is
happening maybe it will send if you give the =file a new name.

Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
Web Database =Systems and Linux Server Administration

On 05/01/2018 06:12 PM, Stuart Tremain =wrote:
Thanks =Chris

So theoretically I should be able to =move a file from
EmailCompleted to EmailFolder and it will =get resent - is that
correct ?

If so why won=E2=80=99t it resend. 15251568715448TTdone =was moved from the
EmailCompleted directory, the other two =files are renamed copies
of the same.

I am using FCGI 8.6, but have the same problem on other =versions.

On 1 May 2018, at 21:25, =christophe.billiottet@webdna.us
<mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us> wrote:

Hi Stuart! it is just a naming problem:

WebDNA writes the mail to be sent in =/EMailFolder. There is only
1 thread sending email unless =someone has sandboxing turned on
(version 6.2). The email =thread sleeps for X ticks, then wakes
up, runs through the =EMailFolder, processes one single
acceptable mail by =forwarding it to a SMTP server, adds a log
entry in =/EMailLog and moves the mail to /EMailCompleted, then
sleeps= for X ticks, and repeats.

"Acceptable" =means that the filename ends in the word "done".
So, do =not remove the .done suffixe.

Processing =the mail means the mail is sent through port 25 to
either =a localhost SMTP server or an external one.

It will only process one email file for each sleep/wake =cycle.
So if the main thread starts to write a new email =file while the
email thread is in the middle of a waking =cycle, it does not
matter. It will be ignored until the =main thread renames it to
end in "done", at which point =the email thread will consider it
during the next wake =cycle.

On May 1, 2018, at 09:31, Stuart Tremain
<webdna@plsoftware.com.au =<mailto:webdna@plsoftware.com.au>>
wrote:

I have always had trouble re-sending email =that have already
been sent from WebDNA.

I thought that it was as simple as dropping the email from
WebDNA > EMailCompleted to WebDNA => EMailFolder after removing
=E2=80=98done=E2=80=99,= but it doesn=E2=80=99t seem to want to play.

Any hints ?

Kind =regards

Stuart Tremain
Pharoah =Lane Software
AUSTRALIA
webdna@plsoftware.com.au =<mailto:webdna@plsoftware.com.au>

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1824--Apple-Mail=_26F324B7-CEF5-4B49-AD32-4837066336E3Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8Yes, all permissions are correct, and yes I have rebooted the server.I have the same problem on ALL my servers, so I must be doing something =wrong.Kind regardsStuart TremainPharoah Lane SoftwareAUSTRALIAwebdna@plsoftware.com.au> On 2 May 2018, at 10:11, Kenneth Grome =wrote:>=20> Do the files have permissions that allow WebDNA to read them?>=20> Sorry, I'm just guessing at this point. Can you reboot the server?> I've seen some strange glitches clear up over the years after a> simple reboot ...>=20> Regards,> Kenneth Grome> WebDNA Solutions> http://www.webdnasolutions.com> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration>=20>=20>=20> On 05/01/2018 07:04 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote:>> Hi Ken>>=20>> I have a couple of files in there with new =E2=80=98unused=E2=80=99 =names.>>=20>> Chris noted: "Acceptable" means that the filename ends in the word>> "done=E2=80=9D. So, do not remove the .done suffix.>>=20>> I gave your suggestion a try with no success.>>=20>> I have even tried bouncing the server.>>=20>>=20>> Kind regards>>=20>> Stuart Tremain>> Pharoah Lane Software>> AUSTRALIA>> webdna@plsoftware.com.au >>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>> On 2 May 2018, at 09:55, Kenneth Grome >> > wrote:>>>=20>>> Hi Stuart,>>>=20>>> This probably won't work but maybe it's worth a try:>>>=20>>> Remove the "done" from the file name, then move the file to the>>> EmailFolder, then rename it by appending "done". This is basically>>> what Chris says WebDNA is doing, so maybe if you do the same thing>>> it will be sent.>>>=20>>> If this does NOT work, I might suspect that the file name itself>>> is being checked (in the log file?) to see if the email has>>> already been sent, and if so it won't resend it. If this is>>> happening maybe it will send if you give the file a new name.>>>=20>>> Regards,>>> Kenneth Grome>>> WebDNA Solutions>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> On 05/01/2018 06:12 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote:>>>> Thanks Chris>>>>=20>>>> So theoretically I should be able to move a file from>>>> EmailCompleted to EmailFolder and it will get resent - is that>>>> correct ?>>>>=20>>>> If so why won=E2=80=99t it resend. 15251568715448TTdone was moved =from the>>>> EmailCompleted directory, the other two files are renamed copies>>>> of the same.>>>>=20>>>> I am using FCGI 8.6, but have the same problem on other versions.>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>> On 1 May 2018, at 21:25, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us>>>>> wrote:>>>>>=20>>>>> Hi Stuart! it is just a naming problem:>>>>>=20>>>>> WebDNA writes the mail to be sent in /EMailFolder. There is only>>>>> 1 thread sending email unless someone has sandboxing turned on>>>>> (version 6.2). The email thread sleeps for X ticks, then wakes>>>>> up, runs through the EMailFolder, processes one single>>>>> acceptable mail by forwarding it to a SMTP server, adds a log>>>>> entry in /EMailLog and moves the mail to /EMailCompleted, then>>>>> sleeps for X ticks, and repeats.>>>>>=20>>>>> "Acceptable" means that the filename ends in the word "done".>>>>> So, do not remove the .done suffixe.>>>>>=20>>>>> Processing the mail means the mail is sent through port 25 to>>>>> either a localhost SMTP server or an external one.>>>>>=20>>>>> It will only process one email file for each sleep/wake cycle.>>>>> So if the main thread starts to write a new email file while the>>>>> email thread is in the middle of a waking cycle, it does not>>>>> matter. It will be ignored until the main thread renames it to>>>>> end in "done", at which point the email thread will consider it>>>>> during the next wake cycle.>>>>>=20>>>>>> On May 1, 2018, at 09:31, Stuart Tremain>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>=20>>>>>> I have always had trouble re-sending email that have already>>>>>> been sent from WebDNA.>>>>>>=20>>>>>> I thought that it was as simple as dropping the email from>>>>>> WebDNA > EMailCompleted to WebDNA > EMailFolder after removing>>>>>> =E2=80=98done=E2=80=99, but it doesn=E2=80=99t seem to want to =play.>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Any hints ?>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Kind regards>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>>>> Pharoah Lane Software>>>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>>>> webdna@plsoftware.com.au >>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This>>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing>>>>> list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe,>>>>> E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting:>>>>> support@webdna.us >>>>=20>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing>>>> list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to:>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us archives:>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting:>>>> support@webdna.us>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------- This>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing>> list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to:>> talk-leave@webdna.us archives:>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting:>> support@webdna.us> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list talk@webdna.us> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us--Apple-Mail=_26F324B7-CEF5-4B49-AD32-4837066336E3Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8Yes, =all permissions are correct, and yes I have rebooted the server.