Re: [encrypt] blues....
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It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 31452
interpreted = N
texte = That's good to know, thanks James.When I was talking with Grant about this issue months ago, we were discussing it in terms of using a specific seed value. I don't do encryption without seed values myself, and the message posted by Joseph had a seed value in it, so I just wanted to make it clear that when a seed value is used, the comparisons won't be reliable.By the way, none of this has never been documented to my knowledge, so it's another one of those things that would be good to add to your list of improvements to the new docs. The 4.0 docs look far better than any other WebDNA docs in history! I just hope you find the time to keep updating them with critical little facts like this, so we don't always have to ask here on the list. It's always better to get the facts from a definitive source produced by the software creators themselves ... :) >I apologize for my incomplete answer before. > >Use [encrypt] without a seed value. The text will be encrypted the same way >every time, so the compare will work. > >Thanks Ken for pointing out that seeded encrypted values are not always the >same. Which is why some times his encrypt/decrypts do not work. > >James Howarth ********************************** >Smith Micro, Internet Solutions Div | eCommerce (WebCatalog) >16855 West Bernardo Drive | Software & Site Development >Suite 380 | >San Diego, CA 92127 | >858.675.1106 | http://www.smithmicro.com/isd >858.675.0372 (fax) > >-----Original Message----- >From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On >Behalf Of Kenneth Grome >Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 3:56 PM >To: WebCatalog Talk >Subject: Re: [encrypt] blues.... > >... > >Encrypted values are not always the same, so this suggestion really >should not work at all. > >Encrypting with a particular seed, can -- and in fact is SUPPOSED TO >(according to Grant) -- generate different encryption strings from >one time to the next, especially when using the same seed on the same >unencrypted text value. > >Therefore, it would be impossible to compare the encrypted values and >expect them to be the same ... > > >================================ >Kenneth Grome, WebDNA Consultant >808-737-6499 http://webdna.net >================================ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list
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That's good to know, thanks James.When I was talking with Grant about this issue months ago, we were discussing it in terms of using a specific seed value. I don't do encryption without seed values myself, and the message posted by Joseph had a seed value in it, so I just wanted to make it clear that when a seed value is used, the comparisons won't be reliable.By the way, none of this has never been documented to my knowledge, so it's another one of those things that would be good to add to your list of improvements to the new docs. The 4.0 docs look far better than any other WebDNA docs in history! I just hope you find the time to keep updating them with critical little facts like this, so we don't always have to ask here on the list. It's always better to get the facts from a definitive source produced by the software creators themselves ... :) >I apologize for my incomplete answer before. > >Use [encrypt] without a seed value. The text will be encrypted the same way >every time, so the compare will work. > >Thanks Ken for pointing out that seeded encrypted values are not always the >same. Which is why some times his encrypt/decrypts do not work. > >James Howarth ********************************** >Smith Micro, Internet Solutions Div | eCommerce (WebCatalog) >16855 West Bernardo Drive | Software & Site Development >Suite 380 | >San Diego, CA 92127 | >858.675.1106 | http://www.smithmicro.com/isd >858.675.0372 (fax) > >-----Original Message----- >From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On >Behalf Of Kenneth Grome >Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 3:56 PM >To: WebCatalog Talk >Subject: Re: [encrypt] blues.... > >... > >Encrypted values are not always the same, so this suggestion really >should not work at all. > >Encrypting with a particular seed, can -- and in fact is SUPPOSED TO >(according to Grant) -- generate different encryption strings from >one time to the next, especially when using the same seed on the same >unencrypted text value. > >Therefore, it would be impossible to compare the encrypted values and >expect them to be the same ... > > >================================ >Kenneth Grome, WebDNA Consultant >808-737-6499 http://webdna.net >================================ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >================================ Kenneth Grome, WebDNA Consultant 808-737-6499 http://webdna.net ================================------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to
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