Re: 5.0 Pricing

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texte = JohnWell said, $1495 is not a lot to spend on a software upgrade when your company depends on it to make a living.I just spend AU$1200.00 to get my car serviced !When was the last upgrade that needed to be paid for ?How much was that over XX years?The Enterprise model seems like one hell of a leap from what we have now! It seems reasonable to have to pay for these additions at their discounted rate.BUT having said that ....... I believe that SMSI should waive, or greatly reduce, the $1000 fee for those of us that currently have an unlimited license. They are taking functionality away after all.I remember the 3 to 4 upgrade debacle and hope that we won't see the likes of that ever again, not even from Micro$oft!Please note that the Intranet features are encrypted and are NOT available in an unencrypted format :(On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 02:39 PM, John Peacock wrote:> You people are amazing! SMSI has decided to broaden the base of users > for WebDNA (something that many people on this list have been grousing > about for years) by cutting the entry price and making it cheap to add > additional licenses. This is the best news on the WebDNA front in a > long time! The incremental license cost of $50 is very reasonable, > considering that it is not time-limited; every time a new customer > signs on that you are hosting, you bill them your actual cost of $50 > to license their site. No serious business will even blanch at that. > Compare this to the per seat cost of anti-virus software and you will > see that it is a very reasonable expense.>> Since the first time that SMSI announced the preliminary upgrade > pricing, they have even created a new unlimited Commerce license, for > those people who don't need the features of the Enterprise Edition. > But that's not good enough for you! As an existing customer, you > want, nay demand, to be given the upgrade to 5.0 for little or > nothing! SMSI has to pay for the development of the new features. > They cannot do it strictly on the basis of new customers.>> Get real! If you feel that you simply _have_ to have an unlimited > license, and cannot afford to spend $1495 for an upgrade of your core > platform, your business model needs some serious revising. SMSI has > changed the licensing model, for the better, IMNSHO, and if you don't > like it, don't upgrade. Go write all of the e-commerce code yourself > in PHP or Perl and discover exactly how much work it will involve.>> Speaking strictly for myself and my company, we will be purchasing the > Enterprise Edition upgrade (since it includes the Intranet features), > which even at $2995 is still a bargain to my mind. If I was a new > customer, I'd buy 4.5 now just so I could get a better deal on 5.0 > when it comes out.>> John>> -- > John Peacock> Director of Information Research and Technology> Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group> 4720 Boston Way> Lanham, MD 20706> 301-459-3366 x.5010> fax 301-429-5747>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>RegardsStuart Tremainidfk web developments114a/40 yeo street neutral bay 2089 australiat +612 9908 2134f +612 9908 4837-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

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JohnWell said, $1495 is not a lot to spend on a software upgrade when your company depends on it to make a living.I just spend AU$1200.00 to get my car serviced !When was the last upgrade that needed to be paid for ?How much was that over XX years?The Enterprise model seems like one hell of a leap from what we have now! It seems reasonable to have to pay for these additions at their discounted rate.BUT having said that ....... I believe that SMSI should waive, or greatly reduce, the $1000 fee for those of us that currently have an unlimited license. They are taking functionality away after all.I remember the 3 to 4 upgrade debacle and hope that we won't see the likes of that ever again, not even from Micro$oft!Please note that the Intranet features are encrypted and are NOT available in an unencrypted format :(On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 02:39 PM, John Peacock wrote:> You people are amazing! SMSI has decided to broaden the base of users > for WebDNA (something that many people on this list have been grousing > about for years) by cutting the entry price and making it cheap to add > additional licenses. This is the best news on the WebDNA front in a > long time! The incremental license cost of $50 is very reasonable, > considering that it is not time-limited; every time a new customer > signs on that you are hosting, you bill them your actual cost of $50 > to license their site. No serious business will even blanch at that. > Compare this to the per seat cost of anti-virus software and you will > see that it is a very reasonable expense.>> Since the first time that SMSI announced the preliminary upgrade > pricing, they have even created a new unlimited Commerce license, for > those people who don't need the features of the Enterprise Edition. > But that's not good enough for you! As an existing customer, you > want, nay demand, to be given the upgrade to 5.0 for little or > nothing! SMSI has to pay for the development of the new features. > They cannot do it strictly on the basis of new customers.>> Get real! If you feel that you simply _have_ to have an unlimited > license, and cannot afford to spend $1495 for an upgrade of your core > platform, your business model needs some serious revising. SMSI has > changed the licensing model, for the better, IMNSHO, and if you don't > like it, don't upgrade. Go write all of the e-commerce code yourself > in PHP or Perl and discover exactly how much work it will involve.>> Speaking strictly for myself and my company, we will be purchasing the > Enterprise Edition upgrade (since it includes the Intranet features), > which even at $2995 is still a bargain to my mind. If I was a new > customer, I'd buy 4.5 now just so I could get a better deal on 5.0 > when it comes out.>> John>> -- > John Peacock> Director of Information Research and Technology> Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group> 4720 Boston Way> Lanham, MD 20706> 301-459-3366 x.5010> fax 301-429-5747>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>RegardsStuart Tremainidfk web developments114a/40 yeo street neutral bay 2089 australiat +612 9908 2134f +612 9908 4837-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Stuart Tremain

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