Re: World Address Info
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2003
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 52320
interpreted = N
texte = A quick search came up w/ the following, but I'm not sure how helpful they'll be: http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/guide_headings_used_chapter_en.pdf http://xml.coverpages.org/namesAndAddresses.html hth, andy On Tuesday, Aug 19, 2003, at 11:19 US/Eastern, Velma Kahn wrote: > I don't disagree with you, but I do think my sentence is being quoted > out of context--perhaps it was just too carelessly written. I > certainly didn't mean that the world isn't full of states, provinces, > and various forms of postal codes. Donovan asked for a data structure > to store address data from all parts of the world. I was describing a > data structure--in the data structure I conventionally use, the state > and zip fields are used only for Canadian and U.S. addresses, as what > I have seen is that most other countries lay out their data address > data differently, and coercing non-American things into American > formats is something we do way too much here in the USA in my view, > and I'd rather not participate. I don't think my credit card provider > does AVS outside the U.S. I should double check. Who do you have? > > Velma > > At 10:09 AM 8/19/2003, Terry Wilson wrote: >> Thought I'd chime in here. >> >> I would most definitely NOT eliminate postal codes on address forms. >> I ship all over the world, processing credit cards through Authnet >> with AVS turned on. Not only are postal codes present in nearly 100% >> of the addresses submitted (I'd even venture to say 100%, but then >> I'd have to check my records) but the AVS system actually works most >> of the time for England, Canada, and sometimes other foreign >> countries; I get "Y" and "Z" codes returned frequently. >> >> An additional address field, or a textarea field for street address >> to allow multiple lines would accommodate places like England with >> unwieldy addresses, and businesses with building names, c/o, etc. But >> there's no need to elimate fields like State. Even though not all >> countries are broken into states, people ordering from those >> countries are no doubt used to writing n/a into irrelevant form >> fields. >> >> I just had an order from Singapore this morning, which you may know >> is a city and country rolled into one. But the address DID come with >> a 6-digit postal code. >> >> Terry >> >>> StateProv and ZipPostCode are not used for outside of the US and >>> Canada (and may be made unavailable for addresses outside of the US >>> and Canada). >>> >>> If one's business is not slanted towards US/Canada, one could >>> eliminate the StateProv and ZipPostCode fields, and label the "City" >>> line something like "City, Post Code, State or Province". >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list
. >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ---------------------------------------- > Velma Kahn > Glory Day Software Company > 200 Tanager Ln NW, Floyd, Virginia 24091, U.S.A. > phone: 540-745-6469 * fax: 651-321-4884 > email: vkahn@glorydaysoftware.com > http://www.glorydaysoftware.com > http://www.communitymade.com > http://www.floydcrafts.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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A quick search came up w/ the following, but I'm not sure how helpful they'll be: http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/guide_headings_used_chapter_en.pdf http://xml.coverpages.org/namesAndAddresses.html hth, andy On Tuesday, Aug 19, 2003, at 11:19 US/Eastern, Velma Kahn wrote: > I don't disagree with you, but I do think my sentence is being quoted > out of context--perhaps it was just too carelessly written. I > certainly didn't mean that the world isn't full of states, provinces, > and various forms of postal codes. Donovan asked for a data structure > to store address data from all parts of the world. I was describing a > data structure--in the data structure I conventionally use, the state > and zip fields are used only for Canadian and U.S. addresses, as what > I have seen is that most other countries lay out their data address > data differently, and coercing non-American things into American > formats is something we do way too much here in the USA in my view, > and I'd rather not participate. I don't think my credit card provider > does AVS outside the U.S. I should double check. Who do you have? > > Velma > > At 10:09 AM 8/19/2003, Terry Wilson wrote: >> Thought I'd chime in here. >> >> I would most definitely NOT eliminate postal codes on address forms. >> I ship all over the world, processing credit cards through Authnet >> with AVS turned on. Not only are postal codes present in nearly 100% >> of the addresses submitted (I'd even venture to say 100%, but then >> I'd have to check my records) but the AVS system actually works most >> of the time for England, Canada, and sometimes other foreign >> countries; I get "Y" and "Z" codes returned frequently. >> >> An additional address field, or a textarea field for street address >> to allow multiple lines would accommodate places like England with >> unwieldy addresses, and businesses with building names, c/o, etc. But >> there's no need to elimate fields like State. Even though not all >> countries are broken into states, people ordering from those >> countries are no doubt used to writing n/a into irrelevant form >> fields. >> >> I just had an order from Singapore this morning, which you may know >> is a city and country rolled into one. But the address DID come with >> a 6-digit postal code. >> >> Terry >> >>> StateProv and ZipPostCode are not used for outside of the US and >>> Canada (and may be made unavailable for addresses outside of the US >>> and Canada). >>> >>> If one's business is not slanted towards US/Canada, one could >>> eliminate the StateProv and ZipPostCode fields, and label the "City" >>> line something like "City, Post Code, State or Province". >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ---------------------------------------- > Velma Kahn > Glory Day Software Company > 200 Tanager Ln NW, Floyd, Virginia 24091, U.S.A. > phone: 540-745-6469 * fax: 651-321-4884 > email: vkahn@glorydaysoftware.com > http://www.glorydaysoftware.com > http://www.communitymade.com > http://www.floydcrafts.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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