Re: [OT] Re: Read and weep
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2003
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texte = On 11/11/03 2:14 PM, "Nitai @ ComputerOil"
wrote: job fast and easy.>=20>> I keep voicing that SMSI needs to keep updating their commerce side>> of things (storebuilder, Gateway hookups etc..). I think this is>> where WebDNA shows its greatest advantage.>=20> Have to disagree here. Over here (Europe) people don=B9t want to hear about> ecommerce anymore, they all want to know how a application can connect to> their backend and how to maintain their website, data and so on. The> commerce part is nice to have but not the main point anymore.>=20> I will even say, that PHP got so big, because they have a complete SQL> (MySQL) integration done. This is mostly all what people care about. Sad =but> true.>=20> Don=B9t get me wrong, but did you ever try to sell a very big company a Web=DNA> solution based on the flat files system. We have lost 4 pitches because o=f> that. They all went with a system (less featured packed as ours) with a S=QL> database (because of their backends).>=20> NitaiI second this. Ecommerce is NOT what most of my experience shows isvaluable. Backend integration, site content management, performance speedare far more sought after in my experience.In fact I would say in all the development we do in DNA, that less than 5%is ecom. True story.It is unfortunate that superior products, like WebDNA often fall victim tolack of market share. The trouble is that ultimately it's own lack of marke=tshare often is the cause of eroding market share causing a viscous circle.Larger projects start to go the way of what is familiar (I am currentlyfighting for my life on one long term & huge WebDNA project). The client isoften happy, thrilled even, with the performance and features, butultimately they take hell for the vulnerability/insecurity that comes frombeing on a platform that very few people know/understand/use.I am an AVID MSFT hater... I don't really hide it much... But I have oftenthought that my ideal situation would be the purchase of the technology bythe big greedy blue monster. I could find myself wayyy ahead of the curve o=nknowing and supporting a platform that would almost certainly be wellreceived.=20But, wishing rarely makes it happen. I can say with complete honesty that Icould probably have grown my company 3 fold if I hadn't forced us into aniche platform. I truly believe it outperforms every product out there forsmall to medium size projects in every way but one... Customer awareness an=dacceptance.But that is my bed and I have to sleep in it. I love WebDNA and willprobably always consider it my platform of preference though I cant helpfeel like the guy who kept pushing BETA over VHS because it was better. ;-)Lol... Now that dates me ...Moving onAlex J McCombie New World MediaChief Information Officer Box 124888/892.6379 MartVille, NY 13111Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.comInterface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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On 11/11/03 2:14 PM, "Nitai @ ComputerOil" wrote: job fast and easy.>=20>> I keep voicing that SMSI needs to keep updating their commerce side>> of things (storebuilder, Gateway hookups etc..). I think this is>> where WebDNA shows its greatest advantage.>=20> Have to disagree here. Over here (Europe) people don=B9t want to hear about> ecommerce anymore, they all want to know how a application can connect to> their backend and how to maintain their website, data and so on. The> commerce part is nice to have but not the main point anymore.>=20> I will even say, that PHP got so big, because they have a complete SQL> (MySQL) integration done. This is mostly all what people care about. Sad =but> true.>=20> Don=B9t get me wrong, but did you ever try to sell a very big company a Web=DNA> solution based on the flat files system. We have lost 4 pitches because o=f> that. They all went with a system (less featured packed as ours) with a S=QL> database (because of their backends).>=20> NitaiI second this. Ecommerce is NOT what most of my experience shows isvaluable. Backend integration, site content management, performance speedare far more sought after in my experience.In fact I would say in all the development we do in DNA, that less than 5%is ecom. True story.It is unfortunate that superior products, like WebDNA often fall victim tolack of market share. The trouble is that ultimately it's own lack of marke=tshare often is the cause of eroding market share causing a viscous circle.Larger projects start to go the way of what is familiar (I am currentlyfighting for my life on one long term & huge WebDNA project). The client isoften happy, thrilled even, with the performance and features, butultimately they take hell for the vulnerability/insecurity that comes frombeing on a platform that very few people know/understand/use.I am an AVID MSFT hater... I don't really hide it much... But I have oftenthought that my ideal situation would be the purchase of the technology bythe big greedy blue monster. I could find myself wayyy ahead of the curve o=nknowing and supporting a platform that would almost certainly be wellreceived.=20But, wishing rarely makes it happen. I can say with complete honesty that Icould probably have grown my company 3 fold if I hadn't forced us into aniche platform. I truly believe it outperforms every product out there forsmall to medium size projects in every way but one... Customer awareness an=dacceptance.But that is my bed and I have to sleep in it. I love WebDNA and willprobably always consider it my platform of preference though I cant helpfeel like the guy who kept pushing BETA over VHS because it was better. ;-)Lol... Now that dates me ...Moving onAlex J McCombie New World MediaChief Information Officer Box 124888/892.6379 MartVille, NY 13111Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.comInterface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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