Re: Newbie needs advice to learn to use WebDNA
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texte = [rant] And yet another reason why a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book would be useful, marketable and profitable... This is exactly what I talking about, and it certainly would have helped *me* when I got started w/ WebDNA [/rant] Rich, No offense to you of course; I am not implying that you are dumb at all.... what helped me learn at first was to give myself a simple, specific and ultimately useful project to work on. In my case it was a 'contract-generator' where on one page I could fill out a form based on the contract I use with my clients (certain variables are obvious, like Clients' names and addresses -- you know, things that are guaranteed to change on every project), and then on the next page I would 'plug in' those vars to a printable, custom contract. The somewhat advanced learning came when I wanted to show/hide stuff based on a client's State, etc. (if they are in my State I charge them Sales Tax on taxable stuff, for instance). Another thing was to code the basic math to generate a 50% deposit on the project (which I require). I dunno, this exercise really worked for me, as it showed me a lot, not just about WebDNA, but also about web-forms and the concept of 'variables' itself, which, at the time, I didn't have a good grasp on. I am a Graphic Artist by trade, and sort of 'fell into' WebDNA... so hopefully that is encouraging to you. I am definitiely what folks could call a 'non-programmer type' :) And yeah, besides any documentation you can get your hands on (no matter how dry), this list and its archive are priceless. Most of the people here don't bite, but even the ones who do are still helpful. "Nuthin' to it but to do it". Just keep practicing. That's the key. -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com http://www.SearchBoise.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 ------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:42:56 -0500 RichC
wrote: >Donovan and Gary, > >I appreciate your bending down to my level. I will continue to plug away and >hope that a 'WebDNA 101' course, book, primer or site gets put together. >Yes, it looks like the Brian Burton links are still down although hope not >gone forever. > >I've been reviewing the smithmicro references but I feel at times it is like >having a dictionary or glossary without the written text. If anyone thinks >of anything else tailored to getting a rookie up to speed ... I'll keep >reading. > >Thanks, >Rich > >> Subject: Re: Newbie needs advice to learn to use WebDNA >> >> Hi Rich, welcome! >> >> Donovan's suggestions are essential and I was also going to recommend >> reading Brian Burton's primer at http://webdna.burtons.com/ or >> http://www.burtons.com/WebDNA/ but it appears to be down. I really hope >> it's just temporarily as these were some really well written examples on >> getting started with some basics-intermediate programming in WebDNA. >> >> There's also the "interactive doc's" at >> http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ref/index.html which is a version of the >> online documentation that allows for people to add comments to the various >> commands/contexts. There's some good stuff there, could be a lot more, but >> some that might help you nonetheless. >> >> And if Ken Grome would ever finish writing his "WebDNA for dummies" book, >> that would be a perfect start as well......(j/k Ken :) >> >> GK >> >> At 09:00 AM 12/2/2003, you wrote: >>> I've been reading the posts now for over a month and have come to realize >>> that I'm in over my head. Can anyone give me some advice as to where I can >>> 'begin' in getting a handle on working with WebDNA. I have come to the >>> conclusion that there must be some good advice out there as where I can >>> start (books, sites, courses) in understanding database programs and in >>> particular the WebDNA side of the equation. Any advice for a newbie? >>> Thanks, >>> Rich > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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[rant] And yet another reason why a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book would be useful, marketable and profitable... This is exactly what I talking about, and it certainly would have helped *me* when I got started w/ WebDNA [/rant] Rich, No offense to you of course; I am not implying that you are dumb at all.... what helped me learn at first was to give myself a simple, specific and ultimately useful project to work on. In my case it was a 'contract-generator' where on one page I could fill out a form based on the contract I use with my clients (certain variables are obvious, like Clients' names and addresses -- you know, things that are guaranteed to change on every project), and then on the next page I would 'plug in' those vars to a printable, custom contract. The somewhat advanced learning came when I wanted to show/hide stuff based on a client's State, etc. (if they are in my State I charge them Sales Tax on taxable stuff, for instance). Another thing was to code the basic math to generate a 50% deposit on the project (which I require). I dunno, this exercise really worked for me, as it showed me a lot, not just about WebDNA, but also about web-forms and the concept of 'variables' itself, which, at the time, I didn't have a good grasp on. I am a Graphic Artist by trade, and sort of 'fell into' WebDNA... so hopefully that is encouraging to you. I am definitiely what folks could call a 'non-programmer type' :) And yeah, besides any documentation you can get your hands on (no matter how dry), this list and its archive are priceless. Most of the people here don't bite, but even the ones who do are still helpful. "Nuthin' to it but to do it". Just keep practicing. That's the key. -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com http://www.SearchBoise.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 ------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:42:56 -0500 RichC wrote: >Donovan and Gary, > >I appreciate your bending down to my level. I will continue to plug away and >hope that a 'WebDNA 101' course, book, primer or site gets put together. >Yes, it looks like the Brian Burton links are still down although hope not >gone forever. > >I've been reviewing the smithmicro references but I feel at times it is like >having a dictionary or glossary without the written text. If anyone thinks >of anything else tailored to getting a rookie up to speed ... I'll keep >reading. > >Thanks, >Rich > >> Subject: Re: Newbie needs advice to learn to use WebDNA >> >> Hi Rich, welcome! >> >> Donovan's suggestions are essential and I was also going to recommend >> reading Brian Burton's primer at http://webdna.burtons.com/ or >> http://www.burtons.com/WebDNA/ but it appears to be down. I really hope >> it's just temporarily as these were some really well written examples on >> getting started with some basics-intermediate programming in WebDNA. >> >> There's also the "interactive doc's" at >> http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ref/index.html which is a version of the >> online documentation that allows for people to add comments to the various >> commands/contexts. There's some good stuff there, could be a lot more, but >> some that might help you nonetheless. >> >> And if Ken Grome would ever finish writing his "WebDNA for dummies" book, >> that would be a perfect start as well......(j/k Ken :) >> >> GK >> >> At 09:00 AM 12/2/2003, you wrote: >>> I've been reading the posts now for over a month and have come to realize >>> that I'm in over my head. Can anyone give me some advice as to where I can >>> 'begin' in getting a handle on working with WebDNA. I have come to the >>> conclusion that there must be some good advice out there as where I can >>> start (books, sites, courses) in understanding database programs and in >>> particular the WebDNA side of the equation. Any advice for a newbie? >>> Thanks, >>> Rich > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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