Re: [OT] Theiving B*****ds
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2004
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numero = 59403
interpreted = N
texte = on 9/16/2004 7:57 pm, Kenneth Grome at owner@kengrome.com so noted...>> Buy Domains snatched up a name I had been wanting for years when the company>> who had originally registered the domain finally dropped it (I guess Buy>> Domain's auto-registration service was quicker on the ball than the one I>> used). When I asked about buying the name, they quoted a price of $6,000.>> I'm sure if I asked a second time (now a year and a half later) they'd bump>> it up to eight. In the meantime, the domain gathers dust.>> >> Buydomains.com needs to be put out of business and all of the domain names>> they're squatting on released to the public.> > > Buydomains.com is a good business. They snatch up the domains that> the owners are too stupid to keep registered. So what? Why should> they be "put out of business" when they are acting within the law?> Just because the original owners are too stupid or lazy to keep their> domains registered does not give anyone an excuse to blame others for> their screw-ups or to put a properly run company out of business!Since this was directed at my comment, I'll field this one.This wasn't a case of an owner being "too stupid" to keep a domainregistered. The domain I had wanted was registered and used by a company ofthe same name. I have no problem with that.In the late 90s, the company was bought out by another and the domain nowserved as a redirect to the subdivision of the new company. I have noproblem with that.A couple years ago, they stopped using the redirect and eventually they letthe domain registration fall into disuse, eventually passing into registrarlock. It was at that point I set up an account with a registrar toautomatically register the domain when it became available. Someone alreadyhad the same process set up with Network Solutions (the domain's registrar)so I didn't have high hopes of getting through, but hey, it was cheap.When the domain was released, it was purchased and not by me. If it had beenpurchased by a company or individual who were making use of the name, Iwould have been disappointed, but I could deal. Instead, buydomains.comacquired the name and offered to sell it to me for 750 times their purchaseprice. THAT I have a problem with.I don't care that they're operating within the law and I don't need to hearany real estate speculation analogies. In my opinion, for keeping 22,978domains in limbo (according to a recent lawsuit) in the hopes of strikinggold one day, buydomains.com ranks right up with optinrealbig.com on theinternet scum scale.> I tried to register a domain that was being sold by one of these> companies and they wanted minimum $200 for it so I said "forget it".> Less than 6 months later I checked it again and it was available so I> registered it for $7. My conclusion is that these companies never> register domains for a long time, and the ones not on the top of the> list at the time of expiration are released, thus giving everyone> else in the world an opportunity to register them -- usually within> one year or less.If buydomains.com had wanted $200, I would have paid it with a smile.After the first year, they renewed it for a second. We'll see about yearthree. The auto-registration service I signed up for runs indefinitely.Rob MarquardtDesigner/Resident WireheadToast Design800 Washington Avenue NorthMinneapolis MN 55401612.330.9863 v612.321.9424 fwww.toastdesign.com-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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on 9/16/2004 7:57 pm, Kenneth Grome at owner@kengrome.com so noted...>> Buy Domains snatched up a name I had been wanting for years when the company>> who had originally registered the domain finally dropped it (I guess Buy>> Domain's auto-registration service was quicker on the ball than the one I>> used). When I asked about buying the name, they quoted a price of $6,000.>> I'm sure if I asked a second time (now a year and a half later) they'd bump>> it up to eight. In the meantime, the domain gathers dust.>> >> Buydomains.com needs to be put out of business and all of the domain names>> they're squatting on released to the public.> > > Buydomains.com is a good business. They snatch up the domains that> the owners are too stupid to keep registered. So what? Why should> they be "put out of business" when they are acting within the law?> Just because the original owners are too stupid or lazy to keep their> domains registered does not give anyone an excuse to blame others for> their screw-ups or to put a properly run company out of business!Since this was directed at my comment, I'll field this one.This wasn't a case of an owner being "too stupid" to keep a domainregistered. The domain I had wanted was registered and used by a company ofthe same name. I have no problem with that.In the late 90s, the company was bought out by another and the domain nowserved as a redirect to the subdivision of the new company. I have noproblem with that.A couple years ago, they stopped using the redirect and eventually they letthe domain registration fall into disuse, eventually passing into registrarlock. It was at that point I set up an account with a registrar toautomatically register the domain when it became available. Someone alreadyhad the same process set up with Network Solutions (the domain's registrar)so I didn't have high hopes of getting through, but hey, it was cheap.When the domain was released, it was purchased and not by me. If it had beenpurchased by a company or individual who were making use of the name, Iwould have been disappointed, but I could deal. Instead, buydomains.comacquired the name and offered to sell it to me for 750 times their purchaseprice. THAT I have a problem with.I don't care that they're operating within the law and I don't need to hearany real estate speculation analogies. In my opinion, for keeping 22,978domains in limbo (according to a recent lawsuit) in the hopes of strikinggold one day, buydomains.com ranks right up with optinrealbig.com on theinternet scum scale.> I tried to register a domain that was being sold by one of these> companies and they wanted minimum $200 for it so I said "forget it".> Less than 6 months later I checked it again and it was available so I> registered it for $7. My conclusion is that these companies never> register domains for a long time, and the ones not on the top of the> list at the time of expiration are released, thus giving everyone> else in the world an opportunity to register them -- usually within> one year or less.If buydomains.com had wanted $200, I would have paid it with a smile.After the first year, they renewed it for a second. We'll see about yearthree. The auto-registration service I signed up for runs indefinitely.Rob MarquardtDesigner/Resident WireheadToast Design800 Washington Avenue NorthMinneapolis MN 55401612.330.9863 v612.321.9424 fwww.toastdesign.com-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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