Re: A new perspective ...
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2005
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = Wow. You couldn't just ignore emails from Ken (you know, not open or read them...), but then you took it a step further and announced it to the entire list. Kinda makes you a dick, no? -Dan On Sat, 7 May 2005 22:52:14 +1200 Alain Russell
wrote: > Congratulations .. you just earned a permanent 'discard silently' rule on our mail server .. > As I said before - take it off list .. no one cares > > > On 07/05/2005, at 4:12 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >>> From Charles: >>> I think the deal here is that WebDNA has a smaller user base and >>> you ARE on the DEVELOPER LIST here, so I think the difference is >>> you are asking other developers to hire you, not end users with a >>> need. >>> >> >> >>> From Jesse: >>> I believe you would be more successful if we could see your >>> "portfolio". But, if you choose not to, then that's your >>> prerogative. I'm just trying to help you understand why I don't >>> think your business model has been successful in this community. >>> >> >> >>> From Charles: >>> When I enlist the help of other developers, I assume they are >>> WORKING FOR ME and I would NEVER hire anyone without seeing what >>> kind of code they write. >>> >> >> >> Thanks Charles and Jesse, >> >> I can see now why I have failed to sell my services to you guys, >> and possibly to others on this list. >> >> I never anticipated that my programmer's code would be that >> important to you, especially when you know I trained them myself, >> and you know (or you should by now) I use very efficient coding >> techniques, and you know that I personally guarantee their code to >> work properly. >> >> Then again, you have every right to see my programmer's actual code >> before you hire us to work for you -- I do not deny this! >> >> It's just too bad that I don't have any examples for you right >> now. But what's really disappointing is that my suggestion to hire >> us to do a small programming test for you is out of the question, >> or out of your reach financially. I actually thought you might >> look at it like this: >> >> "Let's see ... we charge $35 an hour, so if Ken's >> programmers can do the same work for $10 an >> hour that's a savings of $25 per hour, or $200 a day, >> or $1000 a week, or $50,000 a year. Not a bad deal >> if his guys can really do the work ... >> >> "So am I willing to risk 50 bucks to give his programmers >> a 5 hour test? This $50 investment may pay me back >> 1000 times over by the end of the year if I hire just ONE >> of his programmers full time. So I guess it's worth a shot." >> >> Of course I was wrong in my other assumptions about the way people >> think on this list, so I'm not surprised that I misinterpreted this >> as well. But I will certainly consider having my programmers do >> some coding examples some day. Just tell me what kind of examples >> will satisfy you, thanks! >> >> :) >> >> Sincerely, >> Kenneth Grome >> www.kengrome.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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Wow. You couldn't just ignore emails from Ken (you know, not open or read them...), but then you took it a step further and announced it to the entire list. Kinda makes you a dick, no? -Dan On Sat, 7 May 2005 22:52:14 +1200 Alain Russell wrote: > Congratulations .. you just earned a permanent 'discard silently' rule on our mail server .. > As I said before - take it off list .. no one cares > > > On 07/05/2005, at 4:12 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >>> From Charles: >>> I think the deal here is that WebDNA has a smaller user base and >>> you ARE on the DEVELOPER LIST here, so I think the difference is >>> you are asking other developers to hire you, not end users with a >>> need. >>> >> >> >>> From Jesse: >>> I believe you would be more successful if we could see your >>> "portfolio". But, if you choose not to, then that's your >>> prerogative. I'm just trying to help you understand why I don't >>> think your business model has been successful in this community. >>> >> >> >>> From Charles: >>> When I enlist the help of other developers, I assume they are >>> WORKING FOR ME and I would NEVER hire anyone without seeing what >>> kind of code they write. >>> >> >> >> Thanks Charles and Jesse, >> >> I can see now why I have failed to sell my services to you guys, >> and possibly to others on this list. >> >> I never anticipated that my programmer's code would be that >> important to you, especially when you know I trained them myself, >> and you know (or you should by now) I use very efficient coding >> techniques, and you know that I personally guarantee their code to >> work properly. >> >> Then again, you have every right to see my programmer's actual code >> before you hire us to work for you -- I do not deny this! >> >> It's just too bad that I don't have any examples for you right >> now. But what's really disappointing is that my suggestion to hire >> us to do a small programming test for you is out of the question, >> or out of your reach financially. I actually thought you might >> look at it like this: >> >> "Let's see ... we charge $35 an hour, so if Ken's >> programmers can do the same work for $10 an >> hour that's a savings of $25 per hour, or $200 a day, >> or $1000 a week, or $50,000 a year. Not a bad deal >> if his guys can really do the work ... >> >> "So am I willing to risk 50 bucks to give his programmers >> a 5 hour test? This $50 investment may pay me back >> 1000 times over by the end of the year if I hire just ONE >> of his programmers full time. So I guess it's worth a shot." >> >> Of course I was wrong in my other assumptions about the way people >> think on this list, so I'm not surprised that I misinterpreted this >> as well. But I will certainly consider having my programmers do >> some coding examples some day. Just tell me what kind of examples >> will satisfy you, thanks! >> >> :) >> >> Sincerely, >> Kenneth Grome >> www.kengrome.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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