Re: Error: Permision deny.
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2005
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = Or use the NetinfoManager ...thierry>You can modify /etc/group as root.>>Bill>>On Sep 9, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>>I forgot to mention that this problem is on the development server >>on my desktop, not on a live server.>>>>One of the "pain in the ass" problems with webdna on MacOS X that's >>running as a desktop development server is that webdna changes the >>db files I create manually. It resets the permissions on these >>files so the owner and group are both "www". This prevents me from >>manually editing my db files (and it pisses me off because I always >>edit my webdna db files manually during development).>>>>I figure that if I could add myself to the "www" group this would >>not be a problem any more, because the "www" group can read and >>write to these files, which means I can too -- after I'm in that >>group. Too bad I don't know how to make myself a member of the >>"www" group ... :(>>>>Anyone know how I can do this?>>>>Sincerely,>>Kenneth Grome>>www.kengrome.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sep 9, 2005, at 21:20, William DeVaul wrote:>>>>>660 is probably ideal for you. The general idea is the least >>>amount of permissions needed to operate is the most secure you can >>>be.>>>>>>Apache and WebDNA need to operate as the user www or httpd >>>(depending on your distribution of Linux). Then, just to make >>>things confusing, there is also a group called httpd or www. Your >>>user needs to be a part of that group to r/w to those files.>>>>>>Here are some useful commands that one should read about and >>>understand before using:>>>>>>ls -al (this will show the current directory with permissions and owners)>>>chown (this will allow one to change the ownership)>>>chmod (this will modify the permissions)>>>chgrp (this will allow one to add a user to a group)>>>>>>Try man ls or man chown to read more about the commands before >>>using them. I also recommend having a few good books on unix or >>>linux.>>>>>>Bill>>>>>>>>>On Sep 9, 2005, at 1:59 AM, Frank Nordberg wrote:>>>>>>>William DeVaul wrote:>>>>>666 is textbook insecure.>>>>>>>>Yes, but I think the general idea is to allow visitors to both >>>>access and add to/modify the data through WebDNA so there's gotta >>>>be a 6 there somewhere. Question is where does WebDNA fit in? >>>>owner? group? world?>>>>>>>>Who is this group anyway? I thought that parameter wasn't really >>>>relevant at all for a reguar public web site.>>>>>>>>>The bits are given for read(4)/write(2)/execute(1).>>>>>>>>Thanks, I'll try to remember it now. I think the reason why I >>>>have to look it up every time is that the system seems to be the >>>>opposite of what one would intuively expect: "read" (the least >>>>intrusive action) for the lowest bit and "execute" (the riskiest >>>>one) for the highest.>>>>>>>>>>>>Frank Nordberg>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list
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Or use the NetinfoManager ...thierry>You can modify /etc/group as root.>>Bill>>On Sep 9, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>>I forgot to mention that this problem is on the development server >>on my desktop, not on a live server.>>>>One of the "pain in the ass" problems with webdna on MacOS X that's >>running as a desktop development server is that webdna changes the >>db files I create manually. It resets the permissions on these >>files so the owner and group are both "www". This prevents me from >>manually editing my db files (and it pisses me off because I always >>edit my webdna db files manually during development).>>>>I figure that if I could add myself to the "www" group this would >>not be a problem any more, because the "www" group can read and >>write to these files, which means I can too -- after I'm in that >>group. Too bad I don't know how to make myself a member of the >>"www" group ... :(>>>>Anyone know how I can do this?>>>>Sincerely,>>Kenneth Grome>>www.kengrome.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sep 9, 2005, at 21:20, William DeVaul wrote:>>>>>660 is probably ideal for you. The general idea is the least >>>amount of permissions needed to operate is the most secure you can >>>be.>>>>>>Apache and WebDNA need to operate as the user www or httpd >>>(depending on your distribution of Linux). Then, just to make >>>things confusing, there is also a group called httpd or www. Your >>>user needs to be a part of that group to r/w to those files.>>>>>>Here are some useful commands that one should read about and >>>understand before using:>>>>>>ls -al (this will show the current directory with permissions and owners)>>>chown (this will allow one to change the ownership)>>>chmod (this will modify the permissions)>>>chgrp (this will allow one to add a user to a group)>>>>>>Try man ls or man chown to read more about the commands before >>>using them. I also recommend having a few good books on unix or >>>linux.>>>>>>Bill>>>>>>>>>On Sep 9, 2005, at 1:59 AM, Frank Nordberg wrote:>>>>>>>William DeVaul wrote:>>>>>666 is textbook insecure.>>>>>>>>Yes, but I think the general idea is to allow visitors to both >>>>access and add to/modify the data through WebDNA so there's gotta >>>>be a 6 there somewhere. Question is where does WebDNA fit in? >>>>owner? group? world?>>>>>>>>Who is this group anyway? I thought that parameter wasn't really >>>>relevant at all for a reguar public web site.>>>>>>>>>The bits are given for read(4)/write(2)/execute(1).>>>>>>>>Thanks, I'll try to remember it now. I think the reason why I >>>>have to look it up every time is that the system seems to be the >>>>opposite of what one would intuively expect: "read" (the least >>>>intrusive action) for the lowest bit and "execute" (the riskiest >>>>one) for the highest.>>>>>>>>>>>>Frank Nordberg>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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