Future of WebDNA (was Re: urls)

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2005

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texte = Please use whatever tool that suits the task. I'm no Smith Micro apologist (it may be hard to reach them after the purchase of Allume), but I've had great success with their hosting support. Dennis is a pleasure to work with. Even if I used another coding language, I would stay with them for the hosting. Whatever the status of Smith Micro, WebDNA is a good tool that works well. I've only used some of the MySQL functions because I like the built in databases. I don't know how PHP is more solid, but there are plenty of people out there to hack the PHP code that has been written improperly. Poorly written WebDNA code will have the same effect. Whatever the tool, you need people that use it properly. If WebDNA development continues, there needs to be more integration with web API's. The current WSDL tool doesn't work. Ebay, Paypal, google, UPS, Fedex all have robust APIs. Make webDNA the premier integration tool with these and other APIs and you have a development platform. .Net seems to be already there but I don't use it. I'm looking into Ruby on Rails because I see some real promise in the way it encourages developers to code. It has intelligent defaults for its framework that you can easily customize. If it had the API support I need out of the box...who knows. I can see that I will try at least a few sites with RoR. Bill-----Original Message-----From: Jesse Proudman Sent: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:43:00 -0800To: "WebDNA Talk" Subject: Re: urlsOn Nov 29, 2005, at 12:40 PM, devaulw@onebox.com wrote:> I use mod_rewrite extensively. It works well but is a little > complicated to get the hang of at first.> I don't know why the list has not been as active. I would think it > is the holidays. I sure hope it is not PHP. Why substitute one > scripting language for another? WebDNA has real strength in its > easy readability and tab delimited databases. I also think it is > pretty speedy using the RAM based databases. Sure PHP has lots of > pre-baked code, but it is usually harder to modify for specific > client uses.Smith Micro has become a nightmare to get a hold of for support inquires. PHP is substantially more solid and reliable, and there are many more users available to support troubleshooting activities when something does go wrong. It also has substantially better MySQL support, and access to other protocols such as FTPing from right within PHP.--Jesse ProudmanBlue Box Group, LLCPersonalized, Professional Web Solutions for Your Businessp. +1.800.613.4305 x801e. jesse@blueboxgrp.com-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

Please use whatever tool that suits the task. I'm no Smith Micro apologist (it may be hard to reach them after the purchase of Allume), but I've had great success with their hosting support. Dennis is a pleasure to work with. Even if I used another coding language, I would stay with them for the hosting. Whatever the status of Smith Micro, WebDNA is a good tool that works well. I've only used some of the MySQL functions because I like the built in databases. I don't know how PHP is more solid, but there are plenty of people out there to hack the PHP code that has been written improperly. Poorly written WebDNA code will have the same effect. Whatever the tool, you need people that use it properly. If WebDNA development continues, there needs to be more integration with web API's. The current WSDL tool doesn't work. Ebay, Paypal, google, UPS, Fedex all have robust APIs. Make webDNA the premier integration tool with these and other APIs and you have a development platform. .Net seems to be already there but I don't use it. I'm looking into Ruby on Rails because I see some real promise in the way it encourages developers to code. It has intelligent defaults for its framework that you can easily customize. If it had the API support I need out of the box...who knows. I can see that I will try at least a few sites with RoR. Bill-----Original Message-----From: Jesse Proudman Sent: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:43:00 -0800To: "WebDNA Talk" Subject: Re: urlsOn Nov 29, 2005, at 12:40 PM, devaulw@onebox.com wrote:> I use mod_rewrite extensively. It works well but is a little > complicated to get the hang of at first.> I don't know why the list has not been as active. I would think it > is the holidays. I sure hope it is not PHP. Why substitute one > scripting language for another? WebDNA has real strength in its > easy readability and tab delimited databases. I also think it is > pretty speedy using the RAM based databases. Sure PHP has lots of > pre-baked code, but it is usually harder to modify for specific > client uses.Smith Micro has become a nightmare to get a hold of for support inquires. PHP is substantially more solid and reliable, and there are many more users available to support troubleshooting activities when something does go wrong. It also has substantially better MySQL support, and access to other protocols such as FTPing from right within PHP.--Jesse ProudmanBlue Box Group, LLCPersonalized, Professional Web Solutions for Your Businessp. +1.800.613.4305 x801e. jesse@blueboxgrp.com-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ devaulw@onebox.com

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Future of WebDNA (was Re: urls)

2005

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