Re: Future of WebDNA (was Re: urls)

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2005

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texte = > competative and to not have all my eggs in one basket. But, so=20=far,> webdna has been all I need and I believe there isn't much one c=an't> do with it when compared to the other languages.As much as I love WebDNA, but I have do disagree here.Have you every tried to get WebDNA running with Oracle? Or get We=bDNA running with other SQL Databases? ODBC is not the best to im=plement when you run under MacOS X. It works but it is just not s=o "out of the box" working. Call a stored procedure within Oracle= from WebDNA.....I can even talk about a "real debugger" for developers, that is c=ompletely missing. Also the Java tag does not work. Most of the J=ava code can not be used properly.What about integration to create PDF's on the fly, without a Java= hack or a PDF Server? ColdFusion and PHP both have those tools.=20=Also SAP Integration can be used with those tools. I think, WebDN=A is unfortunately a long way away from there. And even if they c=ome up with those features, which other languages have for ages,=20=then WebDNA is a one among others. Nowadays you don't get develop=ers working with your language just because it is easy and a vers=ion is free. Developer versions are available from anybody. The m=ost important part is that developers get the tools they need for= their job fast and easy. Just look at the communities of JSP, .N=ET, ColdFusion and PHP, just to name the main competitors.But, as I said in the past, I am not working for SMSI and they do=n't seam to listen when it comes to marketing. Many people on thi=s list have written many times about what can be done, to no avai=l.Nitai--eContentPark - Enterprise Asset Management SystemRedakto eServices - Professional WebHelpDeskeSurvey - Online Questionnaire made easyRedakto CMS - Content Management that simply works ComputerOil=C2=AE AGNeugutstrasse 668600 D=C3=BCbendorf / SwitzerlandTelefon +41 (0)844 44 55 66 info@computeroil.comhttp://computeroil.com> -----Original Message-----> From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On B=ehalf Of> Donovan Brooke> Sent: Dienstag, 29. November 2005 23:40> To: WebDNA Talk> Subject: Re: Future of WebDNA (was Re: urls)> > devaulw@onebox.com wrote:> > > Try coding the interface to these APIs from scratch in WebDNA=..> > > a part of my every day living is to do just that.> > > > Most of the API providers have pre-made tools in perl, PHP, .=NET,> > Python, and Ruby. (Oddly WebDNA is not on the list. :))> > > Much of the time, those API's have come from developers (like u=s)> who needed to create the link and offered to share the code.> > There have actually been versions of UPS, Fedex, PayPal API's o=ffered up> by the list and SMSI.. not to mention .pdf, myob, QB, and other= services.> SiteBuilder has some current offerings of those listed within i=t.> > Now, having said all that, I shure would not be frustred with> SMSI if they built us some more API's... but at some point, I t=hink> it would be like spoon feeding us.> > I too wish that WebDNA had a stronger following... I also wish=20=it> was cheaper! But, I don't what the *ell SMSI does on a daily> basis, as they don't know what I do... so, they are at the helm=> of worrying about growing the product, and I'm at the helm of d=eciding> what is best for me. I suppose if my business was all database=> and web work, then I'd be looking at many other products just t=o stay> competative and to not have all my eggs in one basket. But, so=20=far,> webdna has been all I need and I believe there isn't much one c=an't> do with it when compared to the other languages.> > Donovan> > > > --> =3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do==3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do> DONOVAN D. BROOKE EUCA Design Center> > <- Web Development (specializing in eCommerce),->> <- Custom Paint, Labels, and Specialty Signage. ->> <- Home and Business Embellishment/Fabrication, ->> <- Glass Blowing, and Art Glass ->> > PH/FAX:> 1 (608) 835-2476> Web:> http://www.egg.bz | http://www.euca.us> =3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do==3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do> > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

> competative and to not have all my eggs in one basket. But, so=20=far,> webdna has been all I need and I believe there isn't much one c=an't> do with it when compared to the other languages.As much as I love WebDNA, but I have do disagree here.Have you every tried to get WebDNA running with Oracle? Or get We=bDNA running with other SQL Databases? ODBC is not the best to im=plement when you run under MacOS X. It works but it is just not s=o "out of the box" working. Call a stored procedure within Oracle= from WebDNA.....I can even talk about a "real debugger" for developers, that is c=ompletely missing. Also the Java tag does not work. Most of the J=ava code can not be used properly.What about integration to create PDF's on the fly, without a Java= hack or a PDF Server? ColdFusion and PHP both have those tools.=20=Also SAP Integration can be used with those tools. I think, WebDN=A is unfortunately a long way away from there. And even if they c=ome up with those features, which other languages have for ages,=20=then WebDNA is a one among others. Nowadays you don't get develop=ers working with your language just because it is easy and a vers=ion is free. Developer versions are available from anybody. The m=ost important part is that developers get the tools they need for= their job fast and easy. Just look at the communities of JSP, .N=ET, ColdFusion and PHP, just to name the main competitors.But, as I said in the past, I am not working for SMSI and they do=n't seam to listen when it comes to marketing. Many people on thi=s list have written many times about what can be done, to no avai=l.Nitai--eContentPark - Enterprise Asset Management SystemRedakto eServices - Professional WebHelpDeskeSurvey - Online Questionnaire made easyRedakto CMS - Content Management that simply works ComputerOil=C2=AE AGNeugutstrasse 668600 D=C3=BCbendorf / SwitzerlandTelefon +41 (0)844 44 55 66 info@computeroil.comhttp://computeroil.com> -----Original Message-----> From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On B=ehalf Of> Donovan Brooke> Sent: Dienstag, 29. November 2005 23:40> To: WebDNA Talk> Subject: Re: Future of WebDNA (was Re: urls)> > devaulw@onebox.com wrote:> > > Try coding the interface to these APIs from scratch in WebDNA=..> > > a part of my every day living is to do just that.> > > > Most of the API providers have pre-made tools in perl, PHP, .=NET,> > Python, and Ruby. (Oddly WebDNA is not on the list. :))> > > Much of the time, those API's have come from developers (like u=s)> who needed to create the link and offered to share the code.> > There have actually been versions of UPS, Fedex, PayPal API's o=ffered up> by the list and SMSI.. not to mention .pdf, myob, QB, and other= services.> SiteBuilder has some current offerings of those listed within i=t.> > Now, having said all that, I shure would not be frustred with> SMSI if they built us some more API's... but at some point, I t=hink> it would be like spoon feeding us.> > I too wish that WebDNA had a stronger following... I also wish=20=it> was cheaper! But, I don't what the *ell SMSI does on a daily> basis, as they don't know what I do... so, they are at the helm=> of worrying about growing the product, and I'm at the helm of d=eciding> what is best for me. I suppose if my business was all database=> and web work, then I'd be looking at many other products just t=o stay> competative and to not have all my eggs in one basket. But, so=20=far,> webdna has been all I need and I believe there isn't much one c=an't> do with it when compared to the other languages.> > Donovan> > > > --> =3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do==3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do> DONOVAN D. BROOKE EUCA Design Center> > <- Web Development (specializing in eCommerce),->> <- Custom Paint, Labels, and Specialty Signage. ->> <- Home and Business Embellishment/Fabrication, ->> <- Glass Blowing, and Art Glass ->> > PH/FAX:> 1 (608) 835-2476> Web:> http://www.egg.bz | http://www.euca.us> =3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do==3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do> > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "Nitai @ ComputerOil"

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Re: Future of WebDNA (was Re: urls)

2005

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