Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away!

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2006


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 67050
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texte = Phil Herring wrote: >>O.K., I have no idea what the plans are but, in hearing >>comments from everyone for quite a while now, I thought I'd >>broach this topic since it is the end of the week and seems >>to need to be talked about. >> >>The subject line is not some last dich plea.. it's really >>a fact. It would be a shame for this language (which is >>really much more than a programming language) to go away. > > > > A reasonable model is one that we've seen with the EIMS mail server and > LetterRip listserve. Sell the software back to the individual who wrote in > the first place. I would agree. EIMS got a real boost a few years back by changing ownership (though I haven't used it for a while). However, the EIMS guy (can't remember his name) had a real passion for the product, which may not always be the case. Ultimately, I don't think that is the only model that would give WebDNA a chance for continued support and success. > In fairness to SM, I doubt that WebDNA still has enough viability to justify > much of anything, but it can certainly be a nice cottage industry for > someone. There are enough of us out here to provide a reasonable income for > a sole proprietor working from home or small office. > > I agree that the language still has merit and if something like this doesn't > happen, I fear it's a goner. I am just finishing up another WebDNA store front. The store front has (the now standard) full backend content administration, CC gateway interface, and completed order processing. It has an orders db, customer db, brand db, category db etc.. etc.. In other words, its your (slightly above standard) fully featured ecommerce store front. The entire store was custom created from a text editor (minus design look and feel). ...Maybe not a spectacular feet in itself... However, contrary to Adam's belief that this product is like an 8 track, I've produced this (custom) store, with one man, in about 40 hours so far. I expect the final version (with design and all bugs worked out) to be around 50 hours. I get to extend, to my client, that efficiency (in the form of cost) as well. I think a PHP or other system, would be very hard pressed to challenge that. I can maybe see someone putting up a canned PHP store and changing it a bit, and perhaps reaching near the same time / cost goals, but I would be very impressed if someone could code the store that I'm just finishing up, by hand, and in the same time frame. Maybe I'm wrong? what do you think? My point is that, webdna is not old. It works (if kept updated) with most any technology out there.. flash, css, javascript, ssi, xml, sql, odbc, etc etc.. and it provides a value to both the developers and the end users. The syntax is one of the most clean syntax structures I've ever seen, and working with it is efficient. I think that, for these reasons, WebDNA is product that would work well in many business models. If I had the resources, I would have made an offer already. Donovan -- =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o DONOVAN D. BROOKE EUCA Design Center <- Web Development (specializing in eCommerce),-> <- Custom Paint, Labels, and Specialty Signage. -> <- Home and Business Embellishment/Fabrication, -> <- Glass Blowing, and Art Glass -> PH/FAX:> 1 (608) 835-2476 Web:> http://www.egg.bz | http://www.euca.us =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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  2. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Marko Bernyk 2006)
  3. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  4. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Marko Bernyk 2006)
  5. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Chris 2006)
  6. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  7. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  8. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  9. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  10. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  11. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Kenneth Grome 2006)
  12. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  13. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Phil Herring 2006)
  14. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  15. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Jesse Proudman 2006)
  16. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  17. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Gary Krockover 2006)
  18. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( "Palle B. Nielsen (PowerPalle)" 2006)
  19. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Clint Davis 2006)
  20. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
  21. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Alex McCombie 2006)
  22. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  23. Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Phil Herring 2006)
  24. [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away! ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
Phil Herring wrote: >>O.K., I have no idea what the plans are but, in hearing >>comments from everyone for quite a while now, I thought I'd >>broach this topic since it is the end of the week and seems >>to need to be talked about. >> >>The subject line is not some last dich plea.. it's really >>a fact. It would be a shame for this language (which is >>really much more than a programming language) to go away. > > > > A reasonable model is one that we've seen with the EIMS mail server and > LetterRip listserve. Sell the software back to the individual who wrote in > the first place. I would agree. EIMS got a real boost a few years back by changing ownership (though I haven't used it for a while). However, the EIMS guy (can't remember his name) had a real passion for the product, which may not always be the case. Ultimately, I don't think that is the only model that would give WebDNA a chance for continued support and success. > In fairness to SM, I doubt that WebDNA still has enough viability to justify > much of anything, but it can certainly be a nice cottage industry for > someone. There are enough of us out here to provide a reasonable income for > a sole proprietor working from home or small office. > > I agree that the language still has merit and if something like this doesn't > happen, I fear it's a goner. I am just finishing up another WebDNA store front. The store front has (the now standard) full backend content administration, CC gateway interface, and completed order processing. It has an orders db, customer db, brand db, category db etc.. etc.. In other words, its your (slightly above standard) fully featured ecommerce store front. The entire store was custom created from a text editor (minus design look and feel). ...Maybe not a spectacular feet in itself... However, contrary to Adam's belief that this product is like an 8 track, I've produced this (custom) store, with one man, in about 40 hours so far. I expect the final version (with design and all bugs worked out) to be around 50 hours. I get to extend, to my client, that efficiency (in the form of cost) as well. I think a PHP or other system, would be very hard pressed to challenge that. I can maybe see someone putting up a canned PHP store and changing it a bit, and perhaps reaching near the same time / cost goals, but I would be very impressed if someone could code the store that I'm just finishing up, by hand, and in the same time frame. Maybe I'm wrong? what do you think? My point is that, webdna is not old. It works (if kept updated) with most any technology out there.. flash, css, javascript, ssi, xml, sql, ODBC, etc etc.. and it provides a value to both the developers and the end users. The syntax is one of the most clean syntax structures I've ever seen, and working with it is efficient. I think that, for these reasons, WebDNA is product that would work well in many business models. If I had the resources, I would have made an offer already. Donovan -- =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o DONOVAN D. BROOKE EUCA Design Center <- Web Development (specializing in eCommerce),-> <- Custom Paint, Labels, and Specialty Signage. -> <- Home and Business Embellishment/Fabrication, -> <- Glass Blowing, and Art Glass -> PH/FAX:> 1 (608) 835-2476 Web:> http://www.egg.bz | http://www.euca.us =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Donovan Brooke

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