Re: WebDNA Feature Request

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2006


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 67777
interpreted = N
texte = .... since you posted this publicly Brian. ;-) Brian B. Burton wrote: > Well, since you asked so nicely... > > 1) Scrap formulas.db It desperately wants to go live under a shady > tree in a big lawn with fluffy bunnies bouncing around it. We want it > to go there too! Not all of us. formulas.db works just fine.. people just don't know how to use it. > 5) DATABASES: Time to acknowledge that it's been a while since 1995 and > update how the databases work... > 5a) add a second line to the .hdr file defining per field in the same > order as the field names, the field type (text/number/date/unique) so > that we don't have to spell it out with each and every search we write. Its not very combersome IMHO to "spell it out". I'd leave it as is. > 5b) this one is harder: add a 3rd line to the header file, defining > per field in the same order as the field names, any relationship to the > same record in another database, thusly "joining" the databases. [snip] > Example: > MyAccount.hdr > MyID (tab) MyAdddate (tab) MyName (tab) Myemail (tab) Mysomethingelse > unique (tab) Date (tab) text (tab) text (tab) text > > MyAddress.hdr > AddID (tab) AccountID (tab) adddate (tab) name (tab) street (tab) state > unique (tab) number (tab) date (tab) text (tab) text (tab) text > (tab) Myaccount.db:MyID (tab) (tab) (tab) (tab) (tab) > > > [search db=myAddress.db&eqMYSTATEdata=CA&ADDDATEsort=1] > [founditems] > [name] [street] [Myaccount:Myemail] > [/founditems] > [/search] I guess I kind of like this (filemaker like) feature... though we can currently do relationships with lookup, this may make things a bit tighter. I would suggest a double "::" instead of one... as to not confuse. btw, I don't see a "MYSTATE" field in any of your db's. ;-) > 6) PRICING - fix the pricing. PHP is free, coldfusion isn't. You're not > Adobe/Microsoft, and you don't have great marketshare/mindshare. > 6a) scrap per domain licensing, this was never a good idea, and I > suspect it was a hack anyway. Licensing based on sandboxes makes 100x > more sense! > 6b) have a 1 "company" version for idk, $299. A price high enough to > show it's serious, but not so high as to discourage people from coming > onboard. this is limited to 1 sandbox. > > Then have a ISP level which is sold per sandbox, at maybe $50 per > sandbox. (minimum 10 sandboxes per server) Every time I sign up a > customer, I pop over to your website, quick pay for a sandbox, get a > serial number, and can go add that back to WebDNA server and finish the > setup. Perhaps you offer bundles of 10 sandboxes for $350 or something. > it's fair to you (heavy users pay more) it's fair to us (no steep > upfront fee to try to get into hosting webdna) it's affordable so we > can compete against companies offering PHP hosting. > > Of course there will have to continue to be a free developer version. I agree with the general idea of more simple and a bit cheaper pricing. Donovan -- =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o DONOVAN D. BROOKE EUCA Design Center <- Web Development (specializing in eCommerce),-> <- Desktop Publishing, Print Consulting, Labels -> <- Glass Blowing, and Art Glass -> PH/FAX:> 1 (608) 835-2476 Web:> http://www.egg.bz | http://www.euca.us =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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  16. Re: WebDNA Feature Request ( Dale Lists 2006)
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  18. Re: WebDNA Feature Request ( Donovan Brooke 2006)
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  21. WebDNA Feature Request ( "Brian B. Burton" 2006)
.... since you posted this publicly Brian. ;-) Brian B. Burton wrote: > Well, since you asked so nicely... > > 1) Scrap formulas.db It desperately wants to go live under a shady > tree in a big lawn with fluffy bunnies bouncing around it. We want it > to go there too! Not all of us. formulas.db works just fine.. people just don't know how to use it. > 5) DATABASES: Time to acknowledge that it's been a while since 1995 and > update how the databases work... > 5a) add a second line to the .hdr file defining per field in the same > order as the field names, the field type (text/number/date/unique) so > that we don't have to spell it out with each and every search we write. Its not very combersome IMHO to "spell it out". I'd leave it as is. > 5b) this one is harder: add a 3rd line to the header file, defining > per field in the same order as the field names, any relationship to the > same record in another database, thusly "joining" the databases. [snip] > Example: > MyAccount.hdr > MyID (tab) MyAdddate (tab) MyName (tab) Myemail (tab) Mysomethingelse > unique (tab) Date (tab) text (tab) text (tab) text > > MyAddress.hdr > AddID (tab) AccountID (tab) adddate (tab) name (tab) street (tab) state > unique (tab) number (tab) date (tab) text (tab) text (tab) text > (tab) Myaccount.db:MyID (tab) (tab) (tab) (tab) (tab) > > > [search db=myAddress.db&eqMYSTATEdata=CA&ADDDATEsort=1] > [founditems] > [name] [street] [Myaccount:Myemail] > [/founditems] > [/search] I guess I kind of like this (filemaker like) feature... though we can currently do relationships with lookup, this may make things a bit tighter. I would suggest a double "::" instead of one... as to not confuse. btw, I don't see a "MYSTATE" field in any of your db's. ;-) > 6) PRICING - fix the pricing. PHP is free, coldfusion isn't. You're not > Adobe/Microsoft, and you don't have great marketshare/mindshare. > 6a) scrap per domain licensing, this was never a good idea, and I > suspect it was a hack anyway. Licensing based on sandboxes makes 100x > more sense! > 6b) have a 1 "company" version for idk, $299. A price high enough to > show it's serious, but not so high as to discourage people from coming > onboard. this is limited to 1 sandbox. > > Then have a ISP level which is sold per sandbox, at maybe $50 per > sandbox. (minimum 10 sandboxes per server) Every time I sign up a > customer, I pop over to your website, quick pay for a sandbox, get a > serial number, and can go add that back to WebDNA server and finish the > setup. Perhaps you offer bundles of 10 sandboxes for $350 or something. > it's fair to you (heavy users pay more) it's fair to us (no steep > upfront fee to try to get into hosting webdna) it's affordable so we > can compete against companies offering PHP hosting. > > Of course there will have to continue to be a free developer version. I agree with the general idea of more simple and a bit cheaper pricing. Donovan -- =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o DONOVAN D. BROOKE EUCA Design Center <- Web Development (specializing in eCommerce),-> <- Desktop Publishing, Print Consulting, Labels -> <- Glass Blowing, and Art Glass -> PH/FAX:> 1 (608) 835-2476 Web:> http://www.egg.bz | http://www.euca.us =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Donovan Brooke

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