RE: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy?
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texte = This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C92DAB.C4735362 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A few additional thoughts -- First - I apologize for stirring the bee = hive - but I really believe all the comments, are meant to truly improve = WebDNA, its presence and acceptance. We all agree these guys are HEROES = for rescuing WebDNA. Major kuddos.=20 I understand the cost of production and how creating web solutions can = be quicker and more efficient - thus saving in the end - but I feel we = are missing a bigger picture. Consider this. I have taught at four = different universities, one being a top design and computer graphics = school (Recently named #1 by US News and WR). None of these schools = teach WebDNA - they all teach php for dynamic solutions. I actually = proposed a class using WebDNA and it was shot down because of its = "rarity". Php is universal and installed nearly everywhere. The problem = as I see it is that we need a wider install base - Is there any major or = mid-level host that supports WebDNA. If we cannot get wider instals, it = will continue to be a "boutique" type solution, better, but rare and it = can never reach its potential because of it being smothered by an (shall = I say) inferior competitor? Can we work out deals with all the major hosts some how? How can we get = it accepted to a wider set of hosts who host and serve? Possibly give it = to the major players? I agree with the comments earlier regarding "most = clients do not want solutions that can't be migrated to other hosts, = developers, etc." Aloha -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Grome [mailto:gfj.sender@gmail.com] Sent: Mon 10/13/2008 9:59 PM To: talk@webdna.us Subject: Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? =20 I agree Bob, and I wasn't trying to suggest that we should=20 use the lowest cost hosting service ... My point was that when a WebDNA CGI is released everyone in=20 the world will be able to use it -- on whatever hosting=20 service or server they choose -- even if their choice=20 happens to be the cheapest host on the planet. Big, small, fast, slow, expensive, cheap or free -- CGI's=20 run on practically all servers -- that's the bottom line. Sincerely, Ken Grome > Actually I don't see how hosting at $10 per month or $30 > per month could be the death of any website. Its like > trying to save pennies while burning dollars. Now if your > talking about a non-profit on a shoe string that is an > issue. But even at $500 a year hosting shouldn't be your > issue. --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C92DAB.C4735362 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A few additional thoughts -- First - I apologize for stirring the bee = hive - but I really believe all the comments, are meant to truly improve = WebDNA, its presence and acceptance. We all agree these guys are HEROES = for rescuing WebDNA. Major kuddos.=20 I understand the cost of production and how creating web solutions can = be quicker and more efficient - thus saving in the end - but I feel we = are missing a bigger picture. Consider this. I have taught at four = different universities, one being a top design and computer graphics = school (Recently named #1 by US News and WR). None of these schools = teach WebDNA - they all teach php for dynamic solutions. I actually = proposed a class using WebDNA and it was shot down because of its = "rarity". Php is universal and installed nearly everywhere. The problem = as I see it is that we need a wider install base - Is there any major or = mid-level host that supports WebDNA. If we cannot get wider instals, it = will continue to be a "boutique" type solution, better, but rare and it = can never reach its potential because of it being smothered by an (shall = I say) inferior competitor? Can we work out deals with all the major hosts some how? How can we get = it accepted to a wider set of hosts who host and serve? Possibly give it = to the major players? I agree with the comments earlier regarding "most = clients do not want solutions that can't be migrated to other hosts, = developers, etc." Aloha -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Grome [mailto:gfj.sender@gmail.com] Sent: Mon 10/13/2008 9:59 PM To: talk@webdna.us Subject: Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? =20 I agree Bob, and I wasn't trying to suggest that we should=20 use the lowest cost hosting service ... My point was that when a WebDNA CGI is released everyone in=20 the world will be able to use it -- on whatever hosting=20 service or server they choose -- even if their choice=20 happens to be the cheapest host on the planet. Big, small, fast, slow, expensive, cheap or free -- CGI's=20 run on practically all servers -- that's the bottom line. Sincerely, Ken Grome > Actually I don't see how hosting at $10 per month or $30 > per month could be the death of any website. Its like > trying to save pennies while burning dollars. Now if your > talking about a non-profit on a shoe string that is an > issue. But even at $500 a year hosting shouldn't be your > issue. --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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