RE: [WebDNA] Page close data
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2014
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 111449
interpreted = N
texte = --_000_3F494A26C768564EA5A0B49EB9E126FB54385A13XMB4xdsumailuta_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try using AJAX on your exit link to keep track of those events... Marc ________________________________ From: sbraun@oswego.org [sbraun@oswego.org] on behalf of Steve Braun [sbrau= n1@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 12:34 PM To: talk Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Page close data Hi Ken, Thanks for the input. I hope that you are doing well. I would be using Goolge Analytics, as you recommend, but there is a problem= with that. I don't really have multiple web pages on this site, but I have one templat= e page, with several other files that are [included] into the template page= , depending on which menu is chosen. So Google only sees the template page= , over & over, rather than the individual included files. This is why I am writing my own tracking system, because I can easily add a= nd measure the time on any of the 'plug-in' files, except the last one, as = the user leaves the domain. I have also thought about using a 'click-to-leave' alert, as I've seen a lo= t of these used with a javascript pop-up. I'll need to ask my client if that's something that would bother them. Would you know of anyway of getting the time from a javascript into a WebDN= A variable? Thanks again for writing back, sfb Stephen F Braun sbraun1@twcny.rr.com
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Braun, Stephen > wrote: Hi Ken, Thanks for the input. I hope that you are doing well. I would be using Goolge Analytics, as you recommend, but there is a problem= with that. I don't really have multiple web pages on this site, but I have one templat= e page, with several other files that are [included] into the template page= , depending on which menu is chosen. So Google only sees the template page= , over & over, rather than the individual included files. This is why I am writing my own tracking system, because I can easily add a= nd measure the time on any of the 'plug-in' files, except the last one, as = the user leaves the domain. I have also thought about using a 'click-to-leave' alert, as I've seen a lo= t of these used with a javascript pop-up. I'll need to ask my client if that's something that would bother them. Would you know of anyway of getting the time from a javascript into a WebDN= A variable? Thanks again for writing back, sfb Stephen Braun / Theatre Manager Robinson-Faust Theatre of the Performing Arts / Oswego High School Two Buccaneer Blvd. / Oswego, NY 13126 315.341.2265 sbraun@oswego.org / http://fausttheatre.org On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Kenneth Grome > wrote: I have built several tracking systems for clients over the years, but I don't recall if I ever built one that tries to track the amount of time a visitor stays on each page. I'm not even sure this makes sense any more, at least with the way I typically visit a site ... I find myself frequently opening a bunch of pages, each in a new tab, so that they are already loaded and available when I'm ready to look at them. If your "time on page" tracking system were used with me, it would appear that I spent a second or two on each page except the last one. There's a problem with timing the last page as well ... You cannot determine when the user leaves the 'last page' of your site for another site unless two things happen: 1- Rather than just closing the tab like I normally do when I leave a site, the visitor must click a special link that sends him/her to a "leave the site" webdna page. 2- Your "leave the site" webdna page must records the click time, then redirect to the other site. Even if these two requirements were met, leaving tabs open for hours while doing something else before leaving the site would create wildly inaccurate data. Having said all this, I should also mention that Google Analytics is easy to setup and your client will probably be much happier with this data than anything you could create in webdna. Obviously webdna has its place, but sometimes it makes sense to use better and free existing tools. Not always, but sometimes. :) Regards, Kenneth Grome WebDNA Solutions http://www.webdnasolutions.com Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management On 07/05/2014 09:53 PM, Steve Braun wrote: > Hi All, > I'm building some minor page analytics for a customer. > I'm just subtracting the time when moving from page to page to > capture the 'time-on-page' data. > I also want to be able to find the time (ie [time]) when the user > leaves the web site for a new domain, or the 'time-on-last-page' data. > > Has anyone done anything like this with WebDNA before? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > sfb > --------------------------------------------------------- This > message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: > http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list >. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is s= ent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe,= E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporti= ng: support@webdna.us --_000_3F494A26C768564EA5A0B49EB9E126FB54385A13XMB4xdsumailuta_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try using AJAX on your exit link to keep track of those events...
Marc
From: sbraun@oswego.org [sbraun@oswego.or= g] on behalf of Steve Braun [sbraun1@twcny.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 12:34 PM
To: talk
Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Page close data
Hi Ken,
Thanks for the input.
I hope that you are doing well.
I would be using Goolge Analytics, as you recommend, but there is a problem= with that.
I don't really have multiple web pages on this site, but I have one templat= e page, with several other files that are [included] into the template page= , depending on which menu is chosen. So Google only sees the template= page, over & over, rather than the individual included files.
This is why I am writing my own tracking system, because I can easily add a= nd measure the time on any of the 'plug-in' files, except the last one, as = the user leaves the domain.
I have also thought about using a 'click-to-leave' alert, as I've seen a lo= t of these used with a javascript pop-up.
I'll need to ask my client if that's something that would bother them.
Would you know of anyway of getting the time from a javascript into a WebDN= A variable?
Thanks again for writing back,
sfb
--------------------------------------------------------- This message is s= ent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe,= E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporti= ng: support@webdna.us
--_000_3F494A26C768564EA5A0B49EB9E126FB54385A13XMB4xdsumailuta_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try using AJAX on your exit link to keep track of those events... Marc ________________________________ From: sbraun@oswego.org [sbraun@oswego.org] on behalf of Steve Braun [sbrau= n1@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 12:34 PM To: talk Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Page close data Hi Ken, Thanks for the input. I hope that you are doing well. I would be using Goolge Analytics, as you recommend, but there is a problem= with that. I don't really have multiple web pages on this site, but I have one templat= e page, with several other files that are [included] into the template page= , depending on which menu is chosen. So Google only sees the template page= , over & over, rather than the individual included files. This is why I am writing my own tracking system, because I can easily add a= nd measure the time on any of the 'plug-in' files, except the last one, as = the user leaves the domain. I have also thought about using a 'click-to-leave' alert, as I've seen a lo= t of these used with a javascript pop-up. I'll need to ask my client if that's something that would bother them. Would you know of anyway of getting the time from a javascript into a WebDN= A variable? Thanks again for writing back, sfb Stephen F Braun sbraun1@twcny.rr.com On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Braun, Stephen > wrote: Hi Ken, Thanks for the input. I hope that you are doing well. I would be using Goolge Analytics, as you recommend, but there is a problem= with that. I don't really have multiple web pages on this site, but I have one templat= e page, with several other files that are [included] into the template page= , depending on which menu is chosen. So Google only sees the template page= , over & over, rather than the individual included files. This is why I am writing my own tracking system, because I can easily add a= nd measure the time on any of the 'plug-in' files, except the last one, as = the user leaves the domain. I have also thought about using a 'click-to-leave' alert, as I've seen a lo= t of these used with a javascript pop-up. I'll need to ask my client if that's something that would bother them. Would you know of anyway of getting the time from a javascript into a WebDN= A variable? Thanks again for writing back, sfb Stephen Braun / Theatre Manager Robinson-Faust Theatre of the Performing Arts / Oswego High School Two Buccaneer Blvd. / Oswego, NY 13126 315.341.2265 sbraun@oswego.org / http://fausttheatre.org On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Kenneth Grome > wrote: I have built several tracking systems for clients over the years, but I don't recall if I ever built one that tries to track the amount of time a visitor stays on each page. I'm not even sure this makes sense any more, at least with the way I typically visit a site ... I find myself frequently opening a bunch of pages, each in a new tab, so that they are already loaded and available when I'm ready to look at them. If your "time on page" tracking system were used with me, it would appear that I spent a second or two on each page except the last one. There's a problem with timing the last page as well ... You cannot determine when the user leaves the 'last page' of your site for another site unless two things happen: 1- Rather than just closing the tab like I normally do when I leave a site, the visitor must click a special link that sends him/her to a "leave the site" webdna page. 2- Your "leave the site" webdna page must records the click time, then redirect to the other site. Even if these two requirements were met, leaving tabs open for hours while doing something else before leaving the site would create wildly inaccurate data. Having said all this, I should also mention that Google Analytics is easy to setup and your client will probably be much happier with this data than anything you could create in webdna. Obviously webdna has its place, but sometimes it makes sense to use better and free existing tools. Not always, but sometimes. :) Regards, Kenneth Grome WebDNA Solutions http://www.webdnasolutions.com Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management On 07/05/2014 09:53 PM, Steve Braun wrote: > Hi All, > I'm building some minor page analytics for a customer. > I'm just subtracting the time when moving from page to page to > capture the 'time-on-page' data. > I also want to be able to find the time (ie [time]) when the user > leaves the web site for a new domain, or the 'time-on-last-page' data. > > Has anyone done anything like this with WebDNA before? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > sfb > --------------------------------------------------------- This > message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: > http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: > support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list >. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is s= ent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe,= E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporti= ng: support@webdna.us --_000_3F494A26C768564EA5A0B49EB9E126FB54385A13XMB4xdsumailuta_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try using AJAX on your exit link to keep track of those events...
Marc
From: sbraun@oswego.org [sbraun@oswego.or= g] on behalf of Steve Braun [sbraun1@twcny.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 12:34 PM
To: talk
Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Page close data
Hi Ken,
Thanks for the input.
I hope that you are doing well.
I would be using Goolge Analytics, as you recommend, but there is a problem= with that.
I don't really have multiple web pages on this site, but I have one templat= e page, with several other files that are [included] into the template page= , depending on which menu is chosen. So Google only sees the template= page, over & over, rather than the individual included files.
This is why I am writing my own tracking system, because I can easily add a= nd measure the time on any of the 'plug-in' files, except the last one, as = the user leaves the domain.
I have also thought about using a 'click-to-leave' alert, as I've seen a lo= t of these used with a javascript pop-up.
I'll need to ask my client if that's something that would bother them.
Would you know of anyway of getting the time from a javascript into a WebDN= A variable?
Thanks again for writing back,
sfb
--------------------------------------------------------- This message is s= ent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe,= E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporti= ng: support@webdna.us
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