Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2015
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 112204
interpreted = N
texte = I have no idea for the behavior but do know that only the first BCC=20 email address will be sent if the comma separating the addresses in a=20 [founditems] is now within [raw] Another finding about sending to multiple addresses with [sendmail] is=20 that if one email address is an invalid formatted address, the email is=20 not sent to any of the addresses. I send out an email newsletter to @ 30,000 addresses and break the=20 sending down to groups of 35 - 50. Kenneth Grome wrote: >> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >> =20 > But I still do not understand why [raw],[/raw] would modify the > comma (or the code around it) in any way, much less in a way that > would cause the sendmail to work properly with it but not without it. > > Apparently it has some kind of reaction with the founditems? Does > it introduce an invisible character or something? > > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management > > > On 03/24/2015 10:41 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: > =20 >> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >> >> If not using [founditems] and sending to multiple BCC or TO's the synt= ax >> would look like this: >> >> [SendMail >> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3Daddy1@example.com,addy2@example.com,addy3@= example.com&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend >> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >> >> [SendMail >> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw],[/raw][/fo= unditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend >> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >> >> >> >> Kenneth Grome wrote: >> =20 >>>>> Had the same problem with BCC, wrapping the , (comma) in [raw] >>>>> required between the BCC addresses fixed it for me. Also works >>>>> for TO: >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>> Good tip, thanks Steve. >>>> >>>> =20 >>> I wish I could understand how this works. Putting something >>> inside a raw context is not supposed to change it. The raw >>> context encloses only two chars, a comma and a space, correct? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> WebDNA Solutions >>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>> >>> >>> On 03/23/2015 05:56 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>> >>> =20 >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Stuart Tremain >>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>> AUSTRALIA >>>> webdna@idfk.com.au
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =20 >>>>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 09:09, Steve Raslevich >>>>> >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Stuart, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>> >>> =20 >>>>> [SendMail >>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw], >>>>> [/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend to >>>>> many]&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>>>> Are you sending one email to one recipient or one email to many >>>>>> recipients ? >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a problem with the latter, making it one to one solved >>>>>> the problem, but I don=E2=80=99t know what was causing it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:13, Diane Blackmore >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Frequently, and increasingly, the Emailer seems to be breaking >>>>>>> the format of the emails resulting in garbled receipts etc >>>>>>> being sent to customers of our clients. This is happening now >>>>>>> more often than not - 20-30 times a day in one case, and needs >>>>>>> to be resolved so I=E2=80=99d be interested if anyone knows of >>>>>>> anything buggy here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The files that Emailer is sending are fine both before and >>>>>>> after sending. The content of the email contains html and so >>>>>>> is being sent as file that is written to the EmailFolder - I >>>>>>> stress that the format of the email can=E2=80=99t be at issue as = it >>>>>>> often comes through OK. It tends to happen more on larger >>>>>>> files, but none of them contain anything more than 11kb. >>>>>>> Images are absolute ref=E2=80=99d back to the server etc so no im= ages >>>>>>> are bing sent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It could be that the problem is not with Emailer but is >>>>>>> instead breaking down between Emailer and the localhost mail >>>>>>> server (not sure what we're using for this but its on the same >>>>>>> server somewhere). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WebDNA version is *unix-Linux Intel Apache Module version >>>>>>> 6.2.1* on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.12.27-xenU x86_64), >>>>>>> Apache2, >>>>>>> Package updates etc were run last week but the problem existed >>>>>>> before then. Emailer is set to send every 20 ticks, and is >>>>>>> not really busy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It has been suggested that we could replace Emailer with >>>>>>> something that does the same job but I=E2=80=99d be interested to= find >>>>>>> out if there=E2=80=99s a quicker fix before I go down that bumpy = path. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To: Sandra Hillyard>>>>>> > >>>>>>> From: "Best Blooms Florist">>>>>> > >>>>>>> Subject: Best Blooms Florist Receipt >>>>>>> BCC: diane@cohesion.co.nz >>>>>>> Organization: Best Blooms Florist >>>>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>>>>>> boundary=3D"----=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw" >>>>>>> X-Priority: 3 >>>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw >>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; >>>>>>> charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message is in a format that cannot be read by your email >>>>>>> software. Time to upgrade! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw >>>>>>> Content-Type: text/html; >>>>>>> charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best Blooms Florist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> align=3D"center" style=3D"padding:5px 0;"> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> align=3D"center"> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Order Ref. 42230 >>>>>>> Tax Invoice Receipt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> class=3D"tableForm"> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | Arrangement / Accessory | >>>>>>> Price | >>>>>>> Quantity | >>>>>>> Cost | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> href=3D"http://www.bestblooms.co.nz/online/product_information.cs= n?productid=3D1132151">Hot >>>>>>> Pink and Purple Bouquet - Standard
| >>>>>>> $80.00 | >>>>>>> 1 | >>>>>>> $80.00 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>> style=3D"background:#fff;text-align:right;">Sub-Total: | >>>>>>> $80.00 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>> style=3D"background:#fff;text-align:right;">Signature Card: | >>>>>>> $0.00 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>> style=3D"background:#fff;text-align:right;">Delivery: | >>>>>>> $0.00 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | Grand Total: | >>>>>>> $80.00 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
* Prices are in New Zealand Dollars and >>>>>>> include Goods and Services Tax within New Zealand. GST Number >>>>>>> 94-374-936.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Delivery Details >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Details >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Billing Details >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> align=3D"center"> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw-- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>> >>>>>> =20 >>>> >>>> =20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list. >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>> >>> =20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list. >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >> >> =20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list. > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > =20
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I have no idea for the behavior but do know that only the first BCC=20 email address will be sent if the comma separating the addresses in a=20 [founditems] is now within [raw] Another finding about sending to multiple addresses with [sendmail] is=20 that if one email address is an invalid formatted address, the email is=20 not sent to any of the addresses. I send out an email newsletter to @ 30,000 addresses and break the=20 sending down to groups of 35 - 50. Kenneth Grome wrote: >> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >> =20 > But I still do not understand why [raw],[/raw] would modify the > comma (or the code around it) in any way, much less in a way that > would cause the sendmail to work properly with it but not without it. > > Apparently it has some kind of reaction with the founditems? Does > it introduce an invisible character or something? > > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management > > > On 03/24/2015 10:41 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: > =20 >> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >> >> If not using [founditems] and sending to multiple BCC or TO's the synt= ax >> would look like this: >> >> [SendMail >> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3Daddy1@example.com,addy2@example.com,addy3@= example.com&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend >> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >> >> [SendMail >> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw],[/raw][/fo= unditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend >> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >> >> >> >> Kenneth Grome wrote: >> =20 >>>>> Had the same problem with BCC, wrapping the , (comma) in [raw] >>>>> required between the BCC addresses fixed it for me. Also works >>>>> for TO: >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>> Good tip, thanks Steve. >>>> >>>> =20 >>> I wish I could understand how this works. Putting something >>> inside a raw context is not supposed to change it. The raw >>> context encloses only two chars, a comma and a space, correct? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> WebDNA Solutions >>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>> >>> >>> On 03/23/2015 05:56 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>> >>> =20 >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Stuart Tremain >>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>> AUSTRALIA >>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =20 >>>>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 09:09, Steve Raslevich >>>>> >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Stuart, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>> >>> =20 >>>>> [SendMail >>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw], >>>>> [/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend to >>>>> many]&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>>>> Are you sending one email to one recipient or one email to many >>>>>> recipients ? >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a problem with the latter, making it one to one solved >>>>>> the problem, but I don=E2=80=99t know what was causing it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:13, Diane Blackmore >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Frequently, and increasingly, the Emailer seems to be breaking >>>>>>> the format of the emails resulting in garbled receipts etc >>>>>>> being sent to customers of our clients. This is happening now >>>>>>> more often than not - 20-30 times a day in one case, and needs >>>>>>> to be resolved so I=E2=80=99d be interested if anyone knows of >>>>>>> anything buggy here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The files that Emailer is sending are fine both before and >>>>>>> after sending. The content of the email contains html and so >>>>>>> is being sent as file that is written to the EmailFolder - I >>>>>>> stress that the format of the email can=E2=80=99t be at issue as = it >>>>>>> often comes through OK. It tends to happen more on larger >>>>>>> files, but none of them contain anything more than 11kb. >>>>>>> Images are absolute ref=E2=80=99d back to the server etc so no im= ages >>>>>>> are bing sent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It could be that the problem is not with Emailer but is >>>>>>> instead breaking down between Emailer and the localhost mail >>>>>>> server (not sure what we're using for this but its on the same >>>>>>> server somewhere). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WebDNA version is *unix-Linux Intel Apache Module version >>>>>>> 6.2.1* on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.12.27-xenU x86_64), >>>>>>> Apache2, >>>>>>> Package updates etc were run last week but the problem existed >>>>>>> before then. Emailer is set to send every 20 ticks, and is >>>>>>> not really busy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It has been suggested that we could replace Emailer with >>>>>>> something that does the same job but I=E2=80=99d be interested to= find >>>>>>> out if there=E2=80=99s a quicker fix before I go down that bumpy = path. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To: Sandra Hillyard>>>>>> > >>>>>>> From: "Best Blooms Florist">>>>>> > >>>>>>> Subject: Best Blooms Florist Receipt >>>>>>> BCC: diane@cohesion.co.nz >>>>>>> Organization: Best Blooms Florist >>>>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>>>>>> boundary=3D"----=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw" >>>>>>> X-Priority: 3 >>>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw >>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; >>>>>>> charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message is in a format that cannot be read by your email >>>>>>> software. Time to upgrade! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw >>>>>>> Content-Type: text/html; >>>>>>> charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best Blooms Florist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> align=3D"center" style=3D"padding:5px 0;"> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> align=3D"center"> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Order Ref. 42230 >>>>>>> Tax Invoice Receipt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> class=3D"tableForm"> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | Arrangement / Accessory | >>>>>>> Price | >>>>>>> Quantity | >>>>>>> Cost | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> href=3D"http://www.bestblooms.co.nz/online/product_information.cs= n?productid=3D1132151">Hot >>>>>>> Pink and Purple Bouquet - Standard
| >>>>>>> $80.00 | >>>>>>> 1 | >>>>>>> $80.00 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>> style=3D"background:#fff;text-align:right;">Sub-Total: | >>>>>>> $80.00 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>> style=3D"background:#fff;text-align:right;">Signature Card: | >>>>>>> $0.00 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>> style=3D"background:#fff;text-align:right;">Delivery: | >>>>>>> $0.00 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | Grand Total: | >>>>>>> $80.00 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
* Prices are in New Zealand Dollars and >>>>>>> include Goods and Services Tax within New Zealand. GST Number >>>>>>> 94-374-936.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Delivery Details >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Details >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Billing Details >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> align=3D"center"> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw-- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>> >>>>>> =20 >>>> >>>> =20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list. >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>> >>> =20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list. >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >> >> =20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list. > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > =20
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