Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format

This WebDNA talk-list message is from

2015


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = Hi Terry, Sorry to hear you are dealing with shingles and ditto on recommendation=20 to others speaking from experience as well. I originally sent 30000 emails one by one - took hours. Breaking into=20 groups in only takes minutes. Taxing on WebDNA and our mail server. I found the [raw],[/raw] fix after discovering that only the first email=20 was sent if I only put a comma between the emailaddress within a=20 [founditems] loop and if I manually typed in multiple addresses=20 separated by a comma then all were sent. Hope you are feeling better soon. Steve Terry Wilson wrote: > This isn't how I handle such multiple emails. I do it thusly: > > search > founditems > sendmail > /sendmail > /founditems > /search > > Why not try that. For some reason, early on I figured it was just clean= er to send individual emails. Or maybe it was breaking on a bad email; I = really don't remember that far back. That also gives you a chance to grab= other variables from the founditems loop, like "Hello [firstname],". Mak= es no difference to the mail server. Or perhaps it makes it easier for th= e mail server; I wouldn't know about that. For sure it will take WebDNA l= onger to process the page. But so what. > > As for the comma, that's just bizarre. I use commas all the time, no pr= oblem (but they aren't within a founditems loop). BCC,CC,Sender,Reply-to.= . use them all; never seen a problem. Even more curious - how did you com= e up with the idea to even try [raw]? That's like wondering how anyone ev= er came up with the idea of cooking an artichoke bud. > > BTW anyone who ever had chicken pox should get the shingles vaccine. Yo= u can guess why I'm sending this advice... > > Terry > > On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Kenneth Grome w= rote: > > =20 >> These are good things to know. >> >> I think they should be added to the documentation since they are >> clearly unexpected behavior, at least for many of us. >> >> Regards, >> Kenneth Grome >> WebDNA Solutions >> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >> >> >> On 03/24/2015 11:01 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >> =20 >>> I have no idea for the behavior but do know that only the first BCC >>> email address will be sent if the comma separating the addresses in a >>> [founditems] is now within [raw] >>> >>> Another finding about sending to multiple addresses with [sendmail] i= s >>> that if one email address is an invalid formatted address, the email = is >>> not sent to any of the addresses. >>> >>> I send out an email newsletter to @ 30,000 addresses and break the >>> sending down to groups of 35 - 50. >>> >>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>> =20 >>>>> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>> But I still do not understand why [raw],[/raw] would modify the >>>> comma (or the code around it) in any way, much less in a way that >>>> would cause the sendmail to work properly with it but not without it= . >>>> >>>> Apparently it has some kind of reaction with the founditems? Does >>>> it introduce an invisible character or something? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Kenneth Grome >>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>> >>>> >>>> On 03/24/2015 10:41 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >>>> >>>> =20 >>>>> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >>>>> >>>>> If not using [founditems] and sending to multiple BCC or TO's the s= yntax >>>>> would look like this: >>>>> >>>>> [SendMail >>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3Daddy1@example.com,addy2@example.com,add= y3@example.com&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend >>>>> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>> >>>>> [SendMail >>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw],[/raw][= /founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend >>>>> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> Had the same problem with BCC, wrapping the , (comma) in [raw] >>>>>>>> required between the BCC addresses fixed it for me. Also works >>>>>>>> for TO: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> Good tip, thanks Steve. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>> I wish I could understand how this works. Putting something >>>>>> inside a raw context is not supposed to change it. The raw >>>>>> context encloses only two chars, a comma and a space, correct? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/23/2015 05:56 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 09:09, Steve Raslevich >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Stuart, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>> >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw], >>>>>>>> [/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend to >>>>>>>> many]&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>> Are you sending one email to one recipient or one email to many >>>>>>>>> recipients ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I had a problem with the latter, making it one to one solved >>>>>>>>> the problem, but I don=92t know what was causing it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:13, Diane Blackmore >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Frequently, and increasingly, the Emailer seems to be breaking >>>>>>>>>> the format of the emails resulting in garbled receipts etc >>>>>>>>>> being sent to customers of our clients. This is happening now >>>>>>>>>> more often than not - 20-30 times a day in one case, and needs >>>>>>>>>> to be resolved so I=92d be interested if anyone knows of >>>>>>>>>> anything buggy here. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The files that Emailer is sending are fine both before and >>>>>>>>>> after sending. The content of the email contains html and so >>>>>>>>>> is being sent as file that is written to the EmailFolder - I >>>>>>>>>> stress that the format of the email can=92t be at issue as it >>>>>>>>>> often comes through OK. It tends to happen more on larger >>>>>>>>>> files, but none of them contain anything more than 11kb. >>>>>>>>>> Images are absolute ref=92d back to the server etc so no image= s >>>>>>>>>> are bing sent. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It could be that the problem is not with Emailer but is >>>>>>>>>> instead breaking down between Emailer and the localhost mail >>>>>>>>>> server (not sure what we're using for this but its on the same >>>>>>>>>> server somewhere). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WebDNA version is *unix-Linux Intel Apache Module version >>>>>>>>>> 6.2.1* on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.12.27-xenU x86_64), >>>>>>>>>> Apache2, >>>>>>>>>> Package updates etc were run last week but the problem existed >>>>>>>>>> before then. Emailer is set to send every 20 ticks, and is >>>>>>>>>> not really busy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It has been suggested that we could replace Emailer with >>>>>>>>>> something that does the same job but I=92d be interested to fi= nd >>>>>>>>>> out if there=92s a quicker fix before I go down that bumpy pat= h. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To: Sandra Hillyard>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> From: "Best Blooms Florist">>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Best Blooms Florist Receipt >>>>>>>>>> BCC: diane@cohesion.co.nz >>>>>>>>>> Organization: Best Blooms Florist >>>>>>>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>>>>>>>>> boundary=3D"----=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw" >>>>>>>>>> X-Priority: 3 >>>>>>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw >>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; >>>>>>>>>> charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >>>>>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This message is in a format that cannot be read by your email >>>>>>>>>> software. 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  1. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Steve Raslevich 2015)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Diane Blackmore 2015)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Terry Wilson 2015)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Brian Burton 2015)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Steve Raslevich 2015)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Terry Wilson 2015)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Steve Raslevich 2015)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Terry Wilson 2015)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Steve Raslevich 2015)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Terry Wilson 2015)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Kenneth Grome 2015)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Steve Raslevich 2015)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Kenneth Grome 2015)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Steve Raslevich 2015)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Kenneth Grome 2015)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Stuart Tremain 2015)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Stuart Tremain 2015)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Kenneth Grome 2015)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Diane Blackmore 2015)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Tom Duke 2015)
  21. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Diane Blackmore 2015)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Diane Blackmore 2015)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Stuart Tremain 2015)
  24. [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Diane Blackmore 2015)
Hi Terry, Sorry to hear you are dealing with shingles and ditto on recommendation=20 to others speaking from experience as well. I originally sent 30000 emails one by one - took hours. Breaking into=20 groups in only takes minutes. Taxing on WebDNA and our mail server. I found the [raw],[/raw] fix after discovering that only the first email=20 was sent if I only put a comma between the emailaddress within a=20 [founditems] loop and if I manually typed in multiple addresses=20 separated by a comma then all were sent. Hope you are feeling better soon. Steve Terry Wilson wrote: > This isn't how I handle such multiple emails. I do it thusly: > > search > founditems > sendmail > /sendmail > /founditems > /search > > Why not try that. For some reason, early on I figured it was just clean= er to send individual emails. Or maybe it was breaking on a bad email; I = really don't remember that far back. That also gives you a chance to grab= other variables from the founditems loop, like "Hello [firstname],". Mak= es no difference to the mail server. Or perhaps it makes it easier for th= e mail server; I wouldn't know about that. For sure it will take WebDNA l= onger to process the page. But so what. > > As for the comma, that's just bizarre. I use commas all the time, no pr= oblem (but they aren't within a founditems loop). BCC,CC,Sender,Reply-to.= . use them all; never seen a problem. Even more curious - how did you com= e up with the idea to even try [raw]? That's like wondering how anyone ev= er came up with the idea of cooking an artichoke bud. > > BTW anyone who ever had chicken pox should get the shingles vaccine. Yo= u can guess why I'm sending this advice... > > Terry > > On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Kenneth Grome w= rote: > > =20 >> These are good things to know. >> >> I think they should be added to the documentation since they are >> clearly unexpected behavior, at least for many of us. >> >> Regards, >> Kenneth Grome >> WebDNA Solutions >> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >> >> >> On 03/24/2015 11:01 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >> =20 >>> I have no idea for the behavior but do know that only the first BCC >>> email address will be sent if the comma separating the addresses in a >>> [founditems] is now within [raw] >>> >>> Another finding about sending to multiple addresses with [sendmail] i= s >>> that if one email address is an invalid formatted address, the email = is >>> not sent to any of the addresses. >>> >>> I send out an email newsletter to @ 30,000 addresses and break the >>> sending down to groups of 35 - 50. >>> >>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>> =20 >>>>> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>> But I still do not understand why [raw],[/raw] would modify the >>>> comma (or the code around it) in any way, much less in a way that >>>> would cause the sendmail to work properly with it but not without it= . >>>> >>>> Apparently it has some kind of reaction with the founditems? Does >>>> it introduce an invisible character or something? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Kenneth Grome >>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>> >>>> >>>> On 03/24/2015 10:41 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >>>> >>>> =20 >>>>> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >>>>> >>>>> If not using [founditems] and sending to multiple BCC or TO's the s= yntax >>>>> would look like this: >>>>> >>>>> [SendMail >>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3Daddy1@example.com,addy2@example.com,add= y3@example.com&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend >>>>> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>> >>>>> [SendMail >>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw],[/raw][= /founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend >>>>> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> Had the same problem with BCC, wrapping the , (comma) in [raw] >>>>>>>> required between the BCC addresses fixed it for me. Also works >>>>>>>> for TO: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> Good tip, thanks Steve. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>> I wish I could understand how this works. Putting something >>>>>> inside a raw context is not supposed to change it. The raw >>>>>> context encloses only two chars, a comma and a space, correct? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/23/2015 05:56 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 09:09, Steve Raslevich >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Stuart, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>> >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw], >>>>>>>> [/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend to >>>>>>>> many]&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>> Are you sending one email to one recipient or one email to many >>>>>>>>> recipients ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I had a problem with the latter, making it one to one solved >>>>>>>>> the problem, but I don=92t know what was causing it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:13, Diane Blackmore >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Frequently, and increasingly, the Emailer seems to be breaking >>>>>>>>>> the format of the emails resulting in garbled receipts etc >>>>>>>>>> being sent to customers of our clients. This is happening now >>>>>>>>>> more often than not - 20-30 times a day in one case, and needs >>>>>>>>>> to be resolved so I=92d be interested if anyone knows of >>>>>>>>>> anything buggy here. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The files that Emailer is sending are fine both before and >>>>>>>>>> after sending. The content of the email contains html and so >>>>>>>>>> is being sent as file that is written to the EmailFolder - I >>>>>>>>>> stress that the format of the email can=92t be at issue as it >>>>>>>>>> often comes through OK. It tends to happen more on larger >>>>>>>>>> files, but none of them contain anything more than 11kb. >>>>>>>>>> Images are absolute ref=92d back to the server etc so no image= s >>>>>>>>>> are bing sent. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It could be that the problem is not with Emailer but is >>>>>>>>>> instead breaking down between Emailer and the localhost mail >>>>>>>>>> server (not sure what we're using for this but its on the same >>>>>>>>>> server somewhere). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WebDNA version is *unix-Linux Intel Apache Module version >>>>>>>>>> 6.2.1* on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.12.27-xenU x86_64), >>>>>>>>>> Apache2, >>>>>>>>>> Package updates etc were run last week but the problem existed >>>>>>>>>> before then. Emailer is set to send every 20 ticks, and is >>>>>>>>>> not really busy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It has been suggested that we could replace Emailer with >>>>>>>>>> something that does the same job but I=92d be interested to fi= nd >>>>>>>>>> out if there=92s a quicker fix before I go down that bumpy pat= h. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To: Sandra Hillyard>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> From: "Best Blooms Florist">>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Best Blooms Florist Receipt >>>>>>>>>> BCC: diane@cohesion.co.nz >>>>>>>>>> Organization: Best Blooms Florist >>>>>>>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>>>>>>>>> boundary=3D"----=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw" >>>>>>>>>> X-Priority: 3 >>>>>>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw >>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; >>>>>>>>>> charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >>>>>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This message is in a format that cannot be read by your email >>>>>>>>>> software. Time to upgrade! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw >>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/html; >>>>>>>>>> charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >>>>>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best Blooms Florist >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ">>>>>>>>>> src=3D"http://www.bestblooms.co.nz/e_images/logo.png" alt=3D"B= est >>>>>>>>>> Blooms" border=3D"0" width=3D"248" height=3D"106"> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
Visit our >>>>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> " style=3D"color:#de2e28; >>>>>>>>>> font-size:16px; text-decoration:none;">www.bestblooms.co.nz >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
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Order Ref. 42230
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Tax Invoice Receipt

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Arrangement / AccessoryPriceQuantityCost
>>>>>>>>> href=3D"http://www.bestblooms.co.nz/online/product_information= .csn?productid=3D1132151">Hot >>>>>>>>>> Pink and Purple Bouquet - Standard
$80.001$80.00
>>>>>>>>> style=3D"background:#fff;text-align:right;">Sub-Total:$80.00
>>>>>>>>> style=3D"background:#fff;text-align:right;">Signature Card: >>>>>>>>>> $0.00
>>>>>>>>> style=3D"background:#fff;text-align:right;">Delivery:$0.00
Grand Total: >>>>>>>>>> $80.00
>>>>>>>>>>


* Prices are in New Zealand Dollars and >>>>>>>>>> include Goods and Services Tax within New Zealand. GST Number >>>>>>>>>> 94-374-936.

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Delivery Details

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Deliver To:Sandra Tudman
Delivery is t= o >>>>>>>>>> a Home
Address:85 Moyrus Cres

Dannemora
Delivery Date:Friday 20 March 2015Contact Phone:0297788767
Special Instructions:Card Message:Dear Sandra Wishing you a speedy recovery Love Sandra& >>>>>>>>>> David, Michael& Deanna, Mitchell& Jarrod xx
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

Your Details

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Contact Name: *Sandra HillyardCompany Name:
Address:5 MItchell Street
Phone:0274593520
Suburb, Postcode:Blockhouse Bay 0600Mobile:0274593520
City:AucklandEmail:shillyard@xtra.co.nz
Country:New ZealandComments:Bright
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Payment Method:Credit CardTransaction ID:0036592961-01
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>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ">>>>>>>>>> src=3D"http://www.bestblooms.co.nz/e_images/logo_footer.png" >>>>>>>>>> alt=3D"Best Blooms" border=3D"0" width=3D"152" height=3D"65"><= /a> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
Best Blooms >>>>>>>>>> Florist
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 342 Great North Road, Henderson, Auckland 0612
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Phone: +64-9-838 9058
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> " style=3D"color:#575656; >>>>>>>>>> text-decoration:none;">www.bestblooms.co.nz >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> align=3D"center"> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw-- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list. >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> =20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list. >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list. >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>> >>>> =20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list. >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>> >>> =20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list. >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >> =20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list. > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > =20 Steve Raslevich

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