Re: WebCat Contest Please Clarify

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1998

It keeps the original formatting. numero = 21537
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texte = Maybe it has been confusing for everyone -- Let me state the goal of thecontest that I had in mind anyway.- To give an opportunity for users to share their cool creations that theyare proud of and maybe get something for it. It was supposed to be fun andlighthearted - not really a huge money offering for the contest... Justsomething fun...As a side benefit for everyone - yes I was hoping to have all the contestsubmissions available thru the WebDNA_Examples area - since they are coolthings - I thought people would want to share them... With the desire forpeople to submit sets of code that they intend to sell - rather than justsnippets...We have decided the following - We are splitting the contest in 2 --Commercial and Non-Commercial. Both will have a set of prizes. 1st prize -set of Advanced tapes or the cash equivelent - your choice, 2nd and 3rdprize - PCS T-shirts.. All winners will get to use the WILD WEBCAT 98graphic on their site...The issue of the code ownership - Anything that ends up in theWebDNA_Examples area must be our ownership for legal reasons... We domodify all code that goes to this area for cross-platform corrections etc.however, if you want to submit something to the contest and don't want itto go the examples area -- just say so...OK - so to briefly restate it - if you are interested in submittingsomething to the contest here are the logistics:Commercial category: (send to publish@smithmicro.com) - description of the site and the WebDNA in use - ie why is it cool... - URL of the site (or page whatever it is...) - your email obviouslyNon-Commercial category: (send to publish@smithmicro.com) - description of the site and the WebDNA in use - ie why is it cool... - URL of the WebDNA in action - a .sit or .zip of the templates if you would like people to see thembefore they vote. - wether or not you would like it in the WebDNA_Examples area as well - your email obviously>Could PCS please clarify the contest.>>It states in your announcement that all submissions will become the>property of Pacific-Coast. This is fine, if you don't want to write>snippets to include with your software then stage some type of contest to>get others to do it for you. (ouch - was that too harsh?)>>But seriously, is Ken correct? Can we submit encrypted stuff that will>be virtually useless to other users after the contest is over? Is PCS>ultimately going to end up distributing a bunch of examples and snippets>that require end users to pay the various third party developers a fee in>order to customize the templates? That would be a lot like distributing>a powerful software title with a crummy manual and then selling video>tapes that fill in where the manual shouldn't but does leave off.>>What is the point in that - That is where we are now. If I want to buy>the source code for Alex's butt kicking chat solution I probably could if>I offer up enough cash.>>I guess I am just confused. Is the point of the contest to create a>critical mass of snippets and code that will be available to users to>play with (and shine the spotlight on some of the awesome programmers on>this list) . Or is the purpose of the contest simply an organized way of>advertising all of the webdna solutions that are available for sale from>all of us on the list (and again to shine the spotlight on some of the>programmers on this list)?>>I really don't care either way - I would be fine with either approach. I>just need to know what PCS is intending so I can decide if I should>submit something.>>OK, just so I can really get in trouble...one more not so cheap shot>and I am outta here. Perhaps Pacific Coast would consider expanding the>contest to allow people to submit new versions of the webcat users>manual. Since PCS would prefer to fill in the weak spots in the product>through contest bribery, they should at least try to get a decent manual>out of the deal.Jay Van Vark *******************************Pacific Coast Software | eCommerce (WebCatalog)11770 Bernardo Plaza Court | Site Hosting & DevelopmentSuite 453 | http://www.smithmicro.comSan Diego, CA 92128 *******************************619.675.1106 Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

Re: WebCat Contest Please Clarify (Jay Van Vark 1998)
Re: WebCat Contest Please Clarify (Dan Tryon 1998)

Maybe it has been confusing for everyone -- Let me state the goal of thecontest that I had in mind anyway.- To give an opportunity for users to share their cool creations that theyare proud of and maybe get something for it. It was supposed to be fun andlighthearted - not really a huge money offering for the contest... Justsomething fun...As a side benefit for everyone - yes I was hoping to have all the contestsubmissions available thru the WebDNA_Examples area - since they are coolthings - I thought people would want to share them... With the desire forpeople to submit sets of code that they intend to sell - rather than justsnippets...We have decided the following - We are splitting the contest in 2 --Commercial and Non-Commercial. Both will have a set of prizes. 1st prize -set of Advanced tapes or the cash equivelent - your choice, 2nd and 3rdprize - PCS T-shirts.. All winners will get to use the WILD WEBCAT 98graphic on their site...The issue of the code ownership - Anything that ends up in theWebDNA_Examples area must be our ownership for legal reasons... We domodify all code that goes to this area for cross-platform corrections etc.however, if you want to submit something to the contest and don't want itto go the examples area -- just say so...OK - so to briefly restate it - if you are interested in submittingsomething to the contest here are the logistics:Commercial category: (send to publish@smithmicro.com) - description of the site and the WebDNA in use - ie why is it cool... - URL of the site (or page whatever it is...) - your email obviouslyNon-Commercial category: (send to publish@smithmicro.com) - description of the site and the WebDNA in use - ie why is it cool... - URL of the WebDNA in action - a .sit or .zip of the templates if you would like people to see thembefore they vote. - wether or not you would like it in the WebDNA_Examples area as well - your email obviously>Could PCS please clarify the contest.>>It states in your announcement that all submissions will become the>property of Pacific-Coast. This is fine, if you don't want to write>snippets to include with your software then stage some type of contest to>get others to do it for you. (ouch - was that too harsh?)>>But seriously, is Ken correct? Can we submit encrypted stuff that will>be virtually useless to other users after the contest is over? Is PCS>ultimately going to end up distributing a bunch of examples and snippets>that require end users to pay the various third party developers a fee in>order to customize the templates? That would be a lot like distributing>a powerful software title with a crummy manual and then selling video>tapes that fill in where the manual shouldn't but does leave off.>>What is the point in that - That is where we are now. If I want to buy>the source code for Alex's butt kicking chat solution I probably could if>I offer up enough cash.>>I guess I am just confused. Is the point of the contest to create a>critical mass of snippets and code that will be available to users to>play with (and shine the spotlight on some of the awesome programmers on>this list) . Or is the purpose of the contest simply an organized way of>advertising all of the webdna solutions that are available for sale from>all of us on the list (and again to shine the spotlight on some of the>programmers on this list)?>>I really don't care either way - I would be fine with either approach. I>just need to know what PCS is intending so I can decide if I should>submit something.>>OK, just so I can really get in trouble...one more not so cheap shot>and I am outta here. Perhaps Pacific Coast would consider expanding the>contest to allow people to submit new versions of the webcat users>manual. Since PCS would prefer to fill in the weak spots in the product>through contest bribery, they should at least try to get a decent manual>out of the deal.Jay Van Vark *******************************Pacific Coast Software | eCommerce (WebCatalog)11770 Bernardo Plaza Court | Site Hosting & DevelopmentSuite 453 | http://www.smithmicro.comSan Diego, CA 92128 *******************************619.675.1106 Jay Van Vark

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Re: WebCat Contest Please Clarify

1998

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