Re: WebCat vs MS SiteServer?
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 1999
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texte = We've had clients inquire about various products, particularly regarding those promoted by Microsoft's superior marketing. Typically, we tell them that we routinely research software (though we haven't seen it all yet) and we use the software that we do because it provides the power, flexibility, reliability, and economics that our current clients require. In most situations, prospective clients defer to our experience (even MIS pros) and accept our word that we can achieve their goals with our current software.Prospective clients who chose NOT to respect your professional opinions and experience should be told frankly that you can and will do it any way they want it done BUT doing it any way other than you have recommended WILL result in significantly higher costs due to the additional time to learn how to use the new software, etc. Personally, I wouldn't want a client who values their opinions over yours on issues that you are familiar with and they are not. The disagreements won't end with the selection of software.....While I have no experience with the product that you mentioned, my experience with IIS and Microsoft have been negative and extremely time consuming. After months of hassling with IIS on our NT, I finally bit bullet and bought O'Reilly's WebSite Pro and have been trying to eliminate the use of Microsoft products wherever possible. I'm definitely biased from my experiences.Run. Run like the wind. Distance yourself from the Microsoft hype. But now I babble. If you decide to test drive that software, I'd be interested to hear how it worked out for you.Good Luck, Paul>At 8:27 Uhr -0600 07.01.1999, Pat McCormick wrote: > >>The MS site is long on hype and hazy on specifics, but site server seems to >>be a scripting tool for database integration and site server 'e-commerce >>edition' seems to provide credit card functions. They require NT, IIS, and >>possibly MS SQL server. >> >>The licensing arrangement is shocking... > > >I don't know technical details of this product, but maybe I can give you an >idea what is probably waiting for you... Last year we were very close to >the realization of a good project. Then we where suddenly out, an other >company made an unbeatable price. Afterwards I learned what was going on: >these guys were Microsoft Developer, Provider, Center, Solution Partner and >what the hell you can be with a (wow!) certificate. And Microsoft promised >them to PAY $ 20,000 when they install their e-commerce server and make a >large site! Yes, the site is not up till today. > >I am not able to say wether this software is good or not. But if you know >MS Support you can imagine your role as a very lonely fighter :) > > >Peter > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Peter Ostry - Vienna/Austria - www.ostry.com >Fon ++43-1-877 74 54 Fax ++43-1-877 74 54-21 >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/|\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ _/_/_/Paul Uttermohlen, Internet Marketspace, Inc. \_\_\_\_ _/_/_/ mailto:paul@ims1.com - Website Development \_\_\_\_ _/_/_/ Business -
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We've had clients inquire about various products, particularly regarding those promoted by Microsoft's superior marketing. Typically, we tell them that we routinely research software (though we haven't seen it all yet) and we use the software that we do because it provides the power, flexibility, reliability, and economics that our current clients require. In most situations, prospective clients defer to our experience (even MIS pros) and accept our word that we can achieve their goals with our current software.Prospective clients who chose NOT to respect your professional opinions and experience should be told frankly that you can and will do it any way they want it done BUT doing it any way other than you have recommended WILL result in significantly higher costs due to the additional time to learn how to use the new software, etc. Personally, I wouldn't want a client who values their opinions over yours on issues that you are familiar with and they are not. The disagreements won't end with the selection of software.....While I have no experience with the product that you mentioned, my experience with IIS and Microsoft have been negative and extremely time consuming. After months of hassling with IIS on our NT, I finally bit bullet and bought O'Reilly's WebSite Pro and have been trying to eliminate the use of Microsoft products wherever possible. I'm definitely biased from my experiences.Run. Run like the wind. Distance yourself from the Microsoft hype. But now I babble. If you decide to test drive that software, I'd be interested to hear how it worked out for you.Good Luck, Paul>At 8:27 Uhr -0600 07.01.1999, Pat McCormick wrote: > >>The MS site is long on hype and hazy on specifics, but site server seems to >>be a scripting tool for database integration and site server 'e-commerce >>edition' seems to provide credit card functions. They require NT, IIS, and >>possibly MS SQL server. >> >>The licensing arrangement is shocking... > > >I don't know technical details of this product, but maybe I can give you an >idea what is probably waiting for you... Last year we were very close to >the realization of a good project. Then we where suddenly out, an other >company made an unbeatable price. Afterwards I learned what was going on: >these guys were Microsoft Developer, Provider, Center, Solution Partner and >what the hell you can be with a (wow!) certificate. And Microsoft promised >them to PAY $ 20,000 when they install their e-commerce server and make a >large site! Yes, the site is not up till today. > >I am not able to say wether this software is good or not. But if you know >MS Support you can imagine your role as a very lonely fighter :) > > >Peter > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Peter Ostry - Vienna/Austria - www.ostry.com >Fon ++43-1-877 74 54 Fax ++43-1-877 74 54-21 >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/|\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ _/_/_/Paul Uttermohlen, Internet Marketspace, Inc. \_\_\_\_ _/_/_/ mailto:paul@ims1.com - Website Development \_\_\_\_ _/_/_/ Business - _\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ _/_/_/ Real Estate - _\_\_\_\_ _/_/_/Websites - Children _/ _\_\_\_ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ | \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_
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