Re: Can webcat 3.0/4.0 handle 1,000,000 hits a day?

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2000

It keeps the original formatting. numero = 33381
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texte = Thanx Mike, I totally agree about the key being the programming. I have beenfinding alternate ways of performing required functions with less impact tothe mass of processes on our system.adam----- Original Message -----From: Mike Davis To: WebCatalog Talk Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 11:57 AMSubject: Re: Can webcat 3.0/4.0 handle 1,000,000 hits a day?> We are currently servicing a quarter of all Amway customers using a dual> PIII box, with peak traffic reaching 1.5 M Hits/Day regularly. At thepoint> where the limits of your hardware start coming into play, your programming> techniques become a key factor. If every page has a complex search, suchas> a summary with nested searching, you may need to re-think your programming> techniques and/or your database schema. We had to do a bit of tweaking to> make the system as efficient as possible. One challenge we faced was the> performance impact of protecting every page with a user/login database of> approx. 1.5 million accounts. The system would grind to a halt using a> standard [protect] type system. The standard [protect] method uses two> database lookups per page hit. Instead, we set an encrypted sessioncookie> and use a quick math algorhythm to check the validity of the user. This> method makes looking up the user data through the [SQL] context only> necessary once per session, which works well under heavy load. On the> up-side, pages that don't include database queries may actually serve up> faster using Webcat, due to the RAM caching of templates, than if theywere> served directly through IIS. (at least that's been our perception)>> Mike>> > Im debating wether to to use a linux redhat/apache setup instead of NT.Only> > problem is, we are more familiar w/NT. Sounds like linux is more suitedfor> > heavy loads than NT.> >> > Adam> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: Doug Hardman > > To: WebCatalog Talk > > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 8:01 AM> > Subject: Re: Can webcat 3.0/4.0 handle 1,000,000 hits a day?> >> >> >> I'm getting that on a WebTen G3/300 box with 256MB ram.> >>> >> If your doing it on an NT box you may need more than 4 processorstho...> > =)> >> (just kidding)> >>> >> -doug> >> --> >> Douglas Hardman : Silver Creek, Ltd.> >> e.doug@silvercreek.net : w.silvercreek.net> >> v.330-630-4487 : f.330-630-5786> >>> >> % ^What is saccharine?> >> Bad substitute.> >>> >>> From: adam@inos.com (Adam O'Connor)> >>> Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk)> >>> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:36:31> >>> To: (WebCatalog Talk)> >>> Subject: Can webcat 3.0/4.0 handle 1,000,000 hits a day?> >>>> >>> On a quad zeon, 1 gig ram, nt box?> >>> The site being served is 50% static, 50% dynamic. It will be receiving> >>> 1,000,000+ pageviews a day.> >>>> >>> Any help is> >>> appreciated,> >>> Adam O'Connor> >>>> >>>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------> >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> >>> the mailing list .> >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> >>> > >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/> >>> >>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------> >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> >> the mailing list .> >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > > >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/> >>> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------> > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> > the mailing list .> > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

Re: Can webcat 3.0/4.0 handle 1,000,000 hits a day? (adam@inos.com (Adam O'Connor) 2000) Re: Can webcat 3.0/4.0 handle 1,000,000 hits a day? (adam@inos.com (Adam O'Connor) 2000) Re: Can webcat 3.0/4.0 handle 1,000,000 hits a day? (Mike Davis 2000) Can webcat 3.0/4.0 handle 1,000,000 hits a day? (adam@inos.com (Adam O'Connor) 2000) Re: Can webcat 3.0/4.0 handle 1,000,000 hits a day? (Nicolas Verhaeghe 2000) Re: Can webcat 3.0/4.0 handle 1,000,000 hits a day? (Doug Hardman 2000)

Thanx Mike, I totally agree about the key being the programming. I have beenfinding alternate ways of performing required functions with less impact tothe mass of processes on our system.adam----- Original Message -----From: Mike Davis To: WebCatalog Talk Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 11:57 AMSubject: Re: Can webcat 3.0/4.0 handle 1,000,000 hits a day?> We are currently servicing a quarter of all Amway customers using a dual> PIII box, with peak traffic reaching 1.5 M Hits/Day regularly. At thepoint> where the limits of your hardware start coming into play, your programming> techniques become a key factor. If every page has a complex search, suchas> a summary with nested searching, you may need to re-think your programming> techniques and/or your database schema. We had to do a bit of tweaking to> make the system as efficient as possible. One challenge we faced was the> performance impact of protecting every page with a user/login database of> approx. 1.5 million accounts. The system would grind to a halt using a> standard [protect] type system. The standard [protect] method uses two> database lookups per page hit. Instead, we set an encrypted sessioncookie> and use a quick math algorhythm to check the validity of the user. This> method makes looking up the user data through the [SQL] context only> necessary once per session, which works well under heavy load. On the> up-side, pages that don't include database queries may actually serve up> faster using Webcat, due to the RAM caching of templates, than if theywere> served directly through IIS. (at least that's been our perception)>> Mike>> > Im debating wether to to use a linux redhat/apache setup instead of NT.Only> > problem is, we are more familiar w/NT. Sounds like linux is more suitedfor> > heavy loads than NT.> >> > Adam> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: Doug Hardman > > To: WebCatalog Talk > > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 8:01 AM> > Subject: Re: Can webcat 3.0/4.0 handle 1,000,000 hits a day?> >> >> >> I'm getting that on a WebTen G3/300 box with 256MB ram.> >>> >> If your doing it on an NT box you may need more than 4 processorstho...> > =)> >> (just kidding)> >>> >> -doug> >> --> >> Douglas Hardman : Silver Creek, Ltd.> >> e.doug@silvercreek.net : w.silvercreek.net> >> v.330-630-4487 : f.330-630-5786> >>> >> % ^What is saccharine?> >> Bad substitute.> >>> >>> From: adam@inos.com (Adam O'Connor)> >>> Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk)> >>> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:36:31> >>> To: (WebCatalog Talk)> >>> Subject: Can webcat 3.0/4.0 handle 1,000,000 hits a day?> >>>> >>> On a quad zeon, 1 gig ram, nt box?> >>> The site being served is 50% static, 50% dynamic. It will be receiving> >>> 1,000,000+ pageviews a day.> >>>> >>> Any help is> >>> appreciated,> >>> Adam O'Connor> >>>> >>>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------> >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> >>> the mailing list .> >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> >>> > >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/> >>> >>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------> >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> >> the mailing list .> >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > > >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/> >>> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------> > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> > the mailing list .> > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ adam@inos.com (Adam O'Connor)

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