Re: WebCat 5 Intranet Question
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2003
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 49370
interpreted = N
texte = My needs are pretty simple compared to what most here do with webdna . . .But in light of past conversations and recent rants about php, perl, asp etc and the considerable number (hundreds, thousands, even) of so called free snippets, complete templates etc, sample templates etc, all available for use or manipulation by the end user if they can find them or adapt them to their use . . . . .Wouldn't webdna benefit considerably in its use and growth if there was a larger assortment of templates and such to use as is, change, customize or not use just look at as needed???Seems there is considerable interest in the intranet templates. But not everyone has the time or resources to start from scratch, and customizing them seems difficult if not impossibleThere were considerable samples floating around in older versions, of webdna and some have tried to consolidate those into a neat tidy place to find them, (like webdna.net).Wouldn't webdna grow more and compete more with coldfusion, asp php etc if there was more available to use right from the start? rather than creating a guestbook from scratch as an example . . .I received a message board sent to me from Fishingworld (??? I think ???) from way back that I added to and used as a foundation for what I have now on a live site. The admin may not be as elegant as ThePubb or others, but the front end and useability of the message board was customized exactly to what the client wanted.Having that original message board series of templates aided greatly in what I ultimately used, but not having me start from scratch. Seeing how something else was done or handled made my final version happen quickerNo idea how or where a larger base of templates could or would be acquired, it's just that now a number of people love the intranet set of templates, want to use them in some way, but can't.I myself have looked at the calendar in the intranet version and have wanted to create a webdna version to take the place of an .asp version I use currently on a site, but time isn't on my side, so that waits for another dayJust a few of my observations from the past couple days of posts and past posts. At 03:59 PM 4/9/03, you wrote: >Phillip Bonesteele wrote: >>I'll be the first to admit that they don't currently >>support customization and extensibility by other third parties. So the >>other part of the discussion is ideas for enhancements to the Intranet to >>make it more extensible, i.e., things like the ability to add your own .inc >>templates to the administrative section for creating new 'tabs' based upon >>your own templates, having an unencrypted template of the baseline graphics >>so you could add your own functionality but with the same look/feel, then >>include it into the admin section, etc. > >I have no doubt that SMSI has spent a considerable effort in writing these >apps; ideally, there should be a number of include files which would be >unencrypted: > >- header.inc and footer.inc would deal with the page layout and other >look/feel issues (you should also allow us to use our own stylesheets) > >- menu.inc would deal with the choices on the left to choose the section > >I think you should try and make them more like independent apps (i.e, I >might want the calendar to appear on my public web site, but without the >editing/submission features). The apps themselves could be encrypted .inc >files and the frames could be unencrypted to facilitate adaptation for >different sites. That way your intellectual property is preserved but we >can develop around the apps for our own sites. The default installation >would be exactly the way that SMSI would set it up; we could modify it a >little, a lot, or not at all, depending on local needs. > >John > >-- >John Peacock >Director of Information Research and Technology >Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group >4501 Forbes Boulevard >Suite H >Lanham, MD 20706 >301-459-3366 x.5010 >fax 301-429-5748 > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list
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My needs are pretty simple compared to what most here do with webdna . . .But in light of past conversations and recent rants about php, perl, asp etc and the considerable number (hundreds, thousands, even) of so called free snippets, complete templates etc, sample templates etc, all available for use or manipulation by the end user if they can find them or adapt them to their use . . . . .Wouldn't webdna benefit considerably in its use and growth if there was a larger assortment of templates and such to use as is, change, customize or not use just look at as needed???Seems there is considerable interest in the intranet templates. But not everyone has the time or resources to start from scratch, and customizing them seems difficult if not impossibleThere were considerable samples floating around in older versions, of webdna and some have tried to consolidate those into a neat tidy place to find them, (like webdna.net).Wouldn't webdna grow more and compete more with coldfusion, asp php etc if there was more available to use right from the start? rather than creating a guestbook from scratch as an example . . .I received a message board sent to me from Fishingworld (??? I think ???) from way back that I added to and used as a foundation for what I have now on a live site. The admin may not be as elegant as ThePubb or others, but the front end and useability of the message board was customized exactly to what the client wanted.Having that original message board series of templates aided greatly in what I ultimately used, but not having me start from scratch. Seeing how something else was done or handled made my final version happen quickerNo idea how or where a larger base of templates could or would be acquired, it's just that now a number of people love the intranet set of templates, want to use them in some way, but can't.I myself have looked at the calendar in the intranet version and have wanted to create a webdna version to take the place of an .asp version I use currently on a site, but time isn't on my side, so that waits for another dayJust a few of my observations from the past couple days of posts and past posts. At 03:59 PM 4/9/03, you wrote: >Phillip Bonesteele wrote: >>I'll be the first to admit that they don't currently >>support customization and extensibility by other third parties. So the >>other part of the discussion is ideas for enhancements to the Intranet to >>make it more extensible, i.e., things like the ability to add your own .inc >>templates to the administrative section for creating new 'tabs' based upon >>your own templates, having an unencrypted template of the baseline graphics >>so you could add your own functionality but with the same look/feel, then >>include it into the admin section, etc. > >I have no doubt that SMSI has spent a considerable effort in writing these >apps; ideally, there should be a number of include files which would be >unencrypted: > >- header.inc and footer.inc would deal with the page layout and other >look/feel issues (you should also allow us to use our own stylesheets) > >- menu.inc would deal with the choices on the left to choose the section > >I think you should try and make them more like independent apps (i.e, I >might want the calendar to appear on my public web site, but without the >editing/submission features). The apps themselves could be encrypted .inc >files and the frames could be unencrypted to facilitate adaptation for >different sites. That way your intellectual property is preserved but we >can develop around the apps for our own sites. The default installation >would be exactly the way that SMSI would set it up; we could modify it a >little, a lot, or not at all, depending on local needs. > >John > >-- >John Peacock >Director of Information Research and Technology >Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group >4501 Forbes Boulevard >Suite H >Lanham, MD 20706 >301-459-3366 x.5010 >fax 301-429-5748 > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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