Re: Two options to consider
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texte = Plan B... If the list members are looking for a safe place to discuss, my (PHP / =20= MySQL-based) forum is open to everyone (yes, I make money from =20 AdSense, like everybody else): http://forum.webdna.ca/index.php?board=3D68.0 It's just a suggestion, in case this list ever becomes censored. =20 Keeping the forum as a backup plan could prove to be a wise decision. =20= Plan Bs can come in handy... Furthermore, I'm on the first results page, in Google, when you type =20 "webdna" ; ) My wish is for WebDNA to go open source, like PHP =97 then, we'd be =20 going somewhere! Le 08-04-16 =E0 23:04, Dan Strong a =E9crit : > I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I have =20= > friends who are lawyers, one of whom is an IP attorney in SM's =20 > backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd be willing to settle for some =20 > version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a class-=20 > action. I'm really not happy with these ass-clowns at the moment. =20 > Either way, we should move this dicussion off-list, IMO, if we hope =20= > to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list (I =20= > use Communigate as well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to =20= > be the first to offer. > -Dan > > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200 > "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)"
wrote: >> Hi >> Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the =20 >> moment, and >> we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not =20 >> SmithMicro for >> how they've treated us and their software product, what does =20 >> everyone think >> about either of the following options; >> 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even =20= >> better, >> make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be =20 >> possible to >> get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort =20= >> of JV. >> "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR; >> 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently >> mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers =20= >> (us) into >> thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby =20 >> promoting sales >> of a product that they knew to be defunct. >> Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either =20 >> effort if I >> can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would be =20= >> in vain >> if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it. >> Let me know people....... >> Thanks, >> on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote: >>> Thanks Christer :) >>> Regards >>> Stuart Tremain >>> IDFK Web Developments >>> AUSTRALIA >>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote: >>>> It's all in the RFC: >>>> >>>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=3D" to your = SETCOOKIE >>>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to >>>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value parameter, >>>> like >>>> [SETCOOKIE name=3DmySecureCookie2&value=3DHello!; = secure&domain=3Dwww.mydomain.com >>>> ] >>>> Best, >>>> Christer >>>> ************************************************************* >>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>>> Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se >>>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain: >>>>> Any ideas on the cookies ???? >>>>> Regards >>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a >>>>>> vulnerability: >>>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie" >>>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ? >>>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ? >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = > > >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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Plan B... If the list members are looking for a safe place to discuss, my (PHP / =20= MySQL-based) forum is open to everyone (yes, I make money from =20 AdSense, like everybody else): http://forum.webdna.ca/index.php?board=3D68.0 It's just a suggestion, in case this list ever becomes censored. =20 Keeping the forum as a backup plan could prove to be a wise decision. =20= Plan Bs can come in handy... Furthermore, I'm on the first results page, in Google, when you type =20 "webdna" ; ) My wish is for WebDNA to go open source, like PHP =97 then, we'd be =20 going somewhere! Le 08-04-16 =E0 23:04, Dan Strong a =E9crit : > I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I have =20= > friends who are lawyers, one of whom is an IP attorney in SM's =20 > backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd be willing to settle for some =20 > version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a class-=20 > action. I'm really not happy with these ass-clowns at the moment. =20 > Either way, we should move this dicussion off-list, IMO, if we hope =20= > to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list (I =20= > use Communigate as well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to =20= > be the first to offer. > -Dan > > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200 > "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)" wrote: >> Hi >> Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the =20 >> moment, and >> we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not =20 >> SmithMicro for >> how they've treated us and their software product, what does =20 >> everyone think >> about either of the following options; >> 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even =20= >> better, >> make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be =20 >> possible to >> get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort =20= >> of JV. >> "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR; >> 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently >> mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers =20= >> (us) into >> thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby =20 >> promoting sales >> of a product that they knew to be defunct. >> Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either =20 >> effort if I >> can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would be =20= >> in vain >> if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it. >> Let me know people....... >> Thanks, >> on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote: >>> Thanks Christer :) >>> Regards >>> Stuart Tremain >>> IDFK Web Developments >>> AUSTRALIA >>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote: >>>> It's all in the RFC: >>>> >>>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=3D" to your = SETCOOKIE >>>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to >>>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value parameter, >>>> like >>>> [SETCOOKIE name=3DmySecureCookie2&value=3DHello!; = secure&domain=3Dwww.mydomain.com >>>> ] >>>> Best, >>>> Christer >>>> ************************************************************* >>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>>> Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se >>>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain: >>>>> Any ideas on the cookies ???? >>>>> Regards >>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a >>>>>> vulnerability: >>>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie" >>>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ? >>>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ? >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = > > >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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