Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA as cgi app (was WebSite Examples)
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wrote: >>>> On 29.06.2008, at 19:11, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>> >>>>> ... some (official) work has been done to replace >>>>> authentication and the system in >>>>> favor >>>>> of cookies. >>>> >>>> Cookies aren't bad to identify a machine but they can be >>>> disabled. For ID's >>>> I would prefer a kind of "invisible" session ID like PHP has. >>>> >>>> :::::::::: >>>> Peter Ostry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> Robert Minor >> Director of Internet Services >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> Cybermill Communications >> http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com >> >> Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and >> hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400. >> >> Complete ddos proof hosting solutions and network services. >> > > Robert Minor Director of Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ Cybermill Communications http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400. 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And > it dies, hm, next week? ;-) Don't know. > > :::::::: > Peter Ostry > > > On 30.06.2008, at 02:37, Bob Minor wrote: > >> Well the php sessions and asp sessions for that matter are cookies, >> nothing really invisible. >> >> On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:48 PM, William DeVaul wrote: >> >>> What is an invisible session id? I thought sessions were either in >>> the URL as a parameter or in a cookie. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Peter Ostry wrote: >>>> On 29.06.2008, at 19:11, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>> >>>>> ... some (official) work has been done to replace >>>>> authentication and the [cart]"> system in >>>>> favor >>>>> of cookies. >>>> >>>> Cookies aren't bad to identify a machine but they can be >>>> disabled. For ID's >>>> I would prefer a kind of "invisible" session ID like PHP has. >>>> >>>> :::::::::: >>>> Peter Ostry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> Robert Minor >> Director of Internet Services >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> Cybermill Communications >> http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com >> >> Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and >> hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400. >> >> Complete ddos proof hosting solutions and network services. >> > > Robert Minor Director of Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ Cybermill Communications http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400. 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