Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA as cgi app (was WebSite Examples)
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2008
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 100053
interpreted = N
texte = Oh my God, I work with PHP for a couple of years now and forgot THAT! Tried to find an excuse but no, there is none ... thanks for your patience ;-) :::::::::: Peter Ostry On 30.06.2008, at 04:42, Bob Minor wrote: > php says otherwise: > > http://us.php.net/manual/en/intro.session.php > > if you disabled cookies, and deleted them, then php stores will > lose their session id just like everyone else's. > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 9:03 PM, Peter Ostry wrote: > >> I've put "invisible" in quotes because the PHP session ID is >> normally not in the URL (it does not need to be) and no, it is not >> a cookie. It is known by PHP and bound to the browser. Works >> always, even if the user turns cookies off. It is shown if you >> display it. The user has no way to block or manipulate it. It >> remains the same as long as there is a session_start() called on >> top of the page. And it dies, hm, next week? ;-) Don't know. >> >> :::::::: >> Peter Ostry >> >> >> On 30.06.2008, at 02:37, Bob Minor wrote: >> >>> Well the php sessions and asp sessions for that matter are >>> cookies, nothing really invisible. >>> >>> On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:48 PM, William DeVaul wrote: >>> >>>> What is an invisible session id? I thought sessions were either in >>>> the URL as a parameter or in a cookie. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Peter Ostry
wrote: >>>>> On 29.06.2008, at 19:11, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ... some (official) work has been done to replace >>>>>> authentication and the system >>>>>> in favor >>>>>> of cookies. >>>>> >>>>> Cookies aren't bad to identify a machine but they can be >>>>> disabled. For ID's >>>>> I would prefer a kind of "invisible" session ID like PHP has. >>>>> >>>>> :::::::::: >>>>> Peter Ostry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> Robert Minor >>> Director of Internet Services >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Cybermill Communications >>> http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com >>> >>> Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and >>> hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400. >>> >>> Complete ddos proof hosting solutions and network services. >>> >> >> > > Robert Minor > Director of Internet Services > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Cybermill Communications > http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com > > Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and > hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400. > > Complete ddos proof hosting solutions and network services. >
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Oh my God, I work with PHP for a couple of years now and forgot THAT! Tried to find an excuse but no, there is none ... thanks for your patience ;-) :::::::::: Peter Ostry On 30.06.2008, at 04:42, Bob Minor wrote: > php says otherwise: > > http://us.php.net/manual/en/intro.session.php > > if you disabled cookies, and deleted them, then php stores will > lose their session id just like everyone else's. > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 9:03 PM, Peter Ostry wrote: > >> I've put "invisible" in quotes because the PHP session ID is >> normally not in the URL (it does not need to be) and no, it is not >> a cookie. It is known by PHP and bound to the browser. Works >> always, even if the user turns cookies off. It is shown if you >> display it. The user has no way to block or manipulate it. It >> remains the same as long as there is a session_start() called on >> top of the page. And it dies, hm, next week? ;-) Don't know. >> >> :::::::: >> Peter Ostry >> >> >> On 30.06.2008, at 02:37, Bob Minor wrote: >> >>> Well the php sessions and asp sessions for that matter are >>> cookies, nothing really invisible. >>> >>> On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:48 PM, William DeVaul wrote: >>> >>>> What is an invisible session id? I thought sessions were either in >>>> the URL as a parameter or in a cookie. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Peter Ostry wrote: >>>>> On 29.06.2008, at 19:11, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ... some (official) work has been done to replace >>>>>> authentication and the [cart]"> system >>>>>> in favor >>>>>> of cookies. >>>>> >>>>> Cookies aren't bad to identify a machine but they can be >>>>> disabled. For ID's >>>>> I would prefer a kind of "invisible" session ID like PHP has. >>>>> >>>>> :::::::::: >>>>> Peter Ostry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> Robert Minor >>> Director of Internet Services >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Cybermill Communications >>> http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com >>> >>> Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and >>> hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400. >>> >>> Complete ddos proof hosting solutions and network services. >>> >> >> > > Robert Minor > Director of Internet Services > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Cybermill Communications > http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com > > Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and > hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400. > > Complete ddos proof hosting solutions and network services. >
Peter Ostry
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