RE: [BULK] RE: [WebDNA] WebDNA for Windows Newbie Questions
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texte = Hi JD, I have WebDNA running on 2 x XP Pro IIS 5.1 version machines, both primarily used for development and testing. One machine is a full fledged operational license and the other is the developer version. I have had no problems with installation and running it at all. I preparing to move the full license to a 2003 server but just got tied up with too many projects. Don't loose heart ...contact me off list (terrynair@prism4u.com) and I will try to help where I can. What I will do is dump a whole lot of screen shots of my IIS configure screens on a web page so that you can follow and see if the configure setting matches ...at the very least, you can match it to try. Hopefully the differences you spot should clear up the glitch you have. Let me know if you are interested and I will start the screen dumps ... Cheers Terry Nair -----Original Message----- From: JD Ready [mailto:jdready@risedev.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:29 To: talk@webdna.us Subject: [BULK] RE: [WebDNA] WebDNA for Windows Newbie Questions Well, frustrated beyond belief, I am giving up on WebDNA. I have tried everything I can think of to get this product to run under Windows XP Pro. I really want to thank Stuart for trying to help me out. I combed through EVERY historical posting in the TalkList archive to no avail. I'm doubly frustrated because it seems that some people did get the application running. Unfortunately, I am not one of them. It seems that several people got WebDNA running with alternative Web Servers (not IIS) like Sambar, but the servers mentioned are no longer available/supported. It seems that WebDNA is experiencing a resurgence, and I have enjoyed being on the List for the past few days to see the community start to come back to life. I enjoy learning new languages and products, but this one has been a tough one. I will remain on the list for a few more days, and I may even attempt an install on my Ubuntu server in a few days, but I am not very hopeful as this Windows experience has been a tough one. Thanks again to those that tried to help me. Sincerely, JD Ready -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:37 PM To: talk@webdna.us Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA for Windows Newbie Questions JD I found this in the archives, it may help. I have only ever installed on server platforms and there are probably some tricks to what you are doing, especially the 500 error. http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/SubjectResults.tpl?command=search&db=we bdna-talk.db&Group1Field=Subject%2BBody%2BFrom&Group1data=windows%20XP&group 1comp=ws&IDsort=1&IDtype=num&IDsdir=de&max=15&startAt=16 Regards Stuart Tremain IDFK Web Developments AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au On 16/09/2008, at 10:15 AM, JD Ready wrote: > Thanks for the help Stuart. I really appreciate it. Unfortunately, I > followed your instructions as well as I could. The problem is that > in IIS > 5.1 on Windows XP Pro, there is no "Web Services" folder (that I can > find). > I am still getting HTTP 500 errors with nothing meaningful in the > IIS logs > to go on. > > So I am still stuck. At this point, I'm getting quite frustrated > with the > process. I may try and get the application installed on my Ubuntu > server, > but I know less about that server than I do about Windows. In the > 90's, I > was an AIX administrator, and I have installed/run servers with > FreeBSD, Red > Hat and Ubuntu, so I'm somewhat familiar with Linux/Unix. > > Anyway, if there is anyone else out there that can give me any other > Windows > suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it. As I said, I'm pretty > discouraged at this point, and I'm starting to wish that I didn't > have to do > this project :-( > > Thanks! > > JD > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au] > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:12 AM > To: talk@webdna.us > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Newbie Questions > > > JD > > Try this: > > Select Web Sites Folder - Right Click > Properties > Home Directory Tab > Set Execute Permissions to Scripts Only > Click Config Button > Mappings Tab click add > Set Executable path to $WebCat.dll (Usually > C:\Inetpub\scripts\WebCatalogEngine) > Set Extension to .TPL > OK to exit > > Select Web Services Folder - Right Click > Add a new Web Service Extension Wizard button > Set Extension Name to "WebCat" > Click add button to add path to $WebCat.dll (Usually > C:\Inetpub\scripts\WebCatalogEngine) > Check box "Set extension status to allowed" > OK to exit > > At root of IIS, Where it says "Computer Name" (local computer) - > Right Click > All Tasks - Save Config to Disk All Tasks - Restart IIS > > > > > More info in the archives: > http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/DetailResults.tpl?command=search&db=web > dna-talk.db&eqIDdata=56216&max=1&words=server%202003 > > > > > > > Regards > > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au > > > > > On 15/09/2008, at 3:41 PM, JD Ready wrote: > >> Hi Donovan, >> >> Yes, I did look at the mapping instructions at the bottom of the >> Welcome >> Screen: >> >> Welcome to WebDNA 6.0 >> for Windows 95/98, NT, 2000, XP, and 2003 Server! >> >> Unfortunately, after doing all of the mappings and making sure the >> settings >> are as close as they can be. I then click on the >> "Administration" (or any >> other .tpl file), and I get an HTTP 500 Error. The stright html >> pages seem >> to diplay just fine. I don't see anything in the loag as far as >> errors, so >> again, I am completely lost and getting a little frustrated. >> >> Can anyone guide to to the right direction as to why I would be >> receiving >> these 500 errors, or, is there a log somewhere that the error might >> be >> getting logged? >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> JD >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Donovan Brooke [mailto:dbrooke@webdna.us] >> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:19 PM >> To: talk@webdna.us >> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Newbie Questions >> >> >> JD Ready wrote: >> >>> OK, here's the deal. I am a web developer (ASP/.NET & SQL Server, >>> PHP >>> & >>> MySQL). I have a friend that is purchasing a website written in >>> WebDNA >>> (currently maintained by Jay Van Vark?). The site is currently >>> running >>> on a Sun Server running Sparc, and the hosting company is charging >>> an >>> arm & a leg). >>> >>> I am technically in charge of taking over the site, so I am new to >>> WebDNA and wanted to get familiar with it. So I downloaded the >>> Developer Edition for Windows and I was trying to install on my XP >>> Pro >>> machine and have not been successful. The install runs, but the >>> mapping >>> does not take place for the .tpl files. I tried to do the mapping >>> manually myself but to no avail. So can anyone help me get that >>> going? >> >> >> >> Hello again JD, did you have a chance to look at the mapping >> instructions >> for Windows that I mentioned on the HTML forum? >> >> >> >>> Now, in addition, I run a Ubuntu server here in my office, but I >>> did not >>> see a build for that platform. However, I was surprised to see so >>> many >>> platform specific builds. I'm used to seeing generic Linux >>> builds. Why >>> are the builds so platform specific? Is it possible to run WebDNA >>> on a >>> generic Linux platform? That would allow me to significantly >>> reduce my >>> host costs. >> >> >> Probably. I think the only reason there are specific installers is >> that >> things can be in different places and use different libraries for the >> different >> builds. We are starting development just now (as we only acquired >> WebDNA >> a short time ago) and will be looking at the best ways to move >> forward with >> the Linux installers and support. I have a lot of ideas in that area >> and we >> have some >> good potential resources to really improve on the linux versitality >> during >> development. >> >> >>> And finally, is WebDNA generic enough across platforms to run the >>> same >>> code on Windows as it does on Linux/Unix? The database back-end >>> for the >>> website I will be running is a CSV file that is being exported from >>> FileMaker Pro on a Mac. At this point, I am unsure which version of >>> WebDNA I will need, but I am assuming the Commerce Edition at a >>> minimum. >> >> >> Yes, That is one of the "plusses" in regards to WebDNA. It works >> relatively >> the same across platforms. There are platform specific contexts and >> commands.. >> but all the core stuff is very portable. The CSV file is the heart of >> WebDNA's internal RAM resident table system.. so that will work >> fine. You >> just have to make sure the file format is clean before uploading >> (file >> format >> structure is in the docs at dev.webdna.us. >> >> >>> >>> Anyway, any help you guys can give me to point me in the right >>> direction >>> would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> JD Ready >> >> >> Respectfully to Chris's suggestion, I would rather suggest that you >> actually >> get started now. WebDNA on XP should run just fine as it is listed as >> supported. >> However, as I mentioned, >> this hasn't been my personal platform of choice and I won't be able >> to >> help much, other than pointing you to the instructions for mapping >> the >> suffixes for Windows. >> >> However, there are hundreds of Windows Servers running WebDNA out >> there, >> so I am guessing there are people on this list who can help you with >> install issues. >> >> Lastly, Chris and I and others will know a lot more in a couple/few >> months >> about all this stuff I'm sure ;-) (when we are in the thick of >> development). >> >> Hope that helps!... and hopefully someone else will chime in to help >> you >> get up and running quickly. >> >> Donovan >> >> P.S. Ubuntu is my personal favorite flavor! >> >> >> >> -- >> Donovan D. Brooke PH/FAX: 1 (608) 291-2024 >> ---------------------------------------------- >> VP >> WebDNA Software Corporation >> 16192 Coastal Highway >> Lewes, DE 19958 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list
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Hi JD, I have WebDNA running on 2 x XP Pro IIS 5.1 version machines, both primarily used for development and testing. One machine is a full fledged operational license and the other is the developer version. I have had no problems with installation and running it at all. I preparing to move the full license to a 2003 server but just got tied up with too many projects. Don't loose heart ...contact me off list (terrynair@prism4u.com) and I will try to help where I can. What I will do is dump a whole lot of screen shots of my IIS configure screens on a web page so that you can follow and see if the configure setting matches ...at the very least, you can match it to try. Hopefully the differences you spot should clear up the glitch you have. Let me know if you are interested and I will start the screen dumps ... Cheers Terry Nair -----Original Message----- From: JD Ready [mailto:jdready@risedev.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:29 To: talk@webdna.us Subject: [BULK] RE: [WebDNA] WebDNA for Windows Newbie Questions Well, frustrated beyond belief, I am giving up on WebDNA. I have tried everything I can think of to get this product to run under Windows XP Pro. I really want to thank Stuart for trying to help me out. I combed through EVERY historical posting in the TalkList archive to no avail. I'm doubly frustrated because it seems that some people did get the application running. Unfortunately, I am not one of them. It seems that several people got WebDNA running with alternative Web Servers (not IIS) like Sambar, but the servers mentioned are no longer available/supported. It seems that WebDNA is experiencing a resurgence, and I have enjoyed being on the List for the past few days to see the community start to come back to life. I enjoy learning new languages and products, but this one has been a tough one. I will remain on the list for a few more days, and I may even attempt an install on my Ubuntu server in a few days, but I am not very hopeful as this Windows experience has been a tough one. Thanks again to those that tried to help me. Sincerely, JD Ready -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:37 PM To: talk@webdna.us Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA for Windows Newbie Questions JD I found this in the archives, it may help. I have only ever installed on server platforms and there are probably some tricks to what you are doing, especially the 500 error. http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/SubjectResults.tpl?command=search&db=we bdna-talk.db&Group1Field=Subject%2BBody%2BFrom&Group1data=windows%20XP&group 1comp=ws&IDsort=1&IDtype=num&IDsdir=de&max=15&startAt=16 Regards Stuart Tremain IDFK Web Developments AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au On 16/09/2008, at 10:15 AM, JD Ready wrote: > Thanks for the help Stuart. I really appreciate it. Unfortunately, I > followed your instructions as well as I could. The problem is that > in IIS > 5.1 on Windows XP Pro, there is no "Web Services" folder (that I can > find). > I am still getting HTTP 500 errors with nothing meaningful in the > IIS logs > to go on. > > So I am still stuck. At this point, I'm getting quite frustrated > with the > process. I may try and get the application installed on my Ubuntu > server, > but I know less about that server than I do about Windows. In the > 90's, I > was an AIX administrator, and I have installed/run servers with > FreeBSD, Red > Hat and Ubuntu, so I'm somewhat familiar with Linux/Unix. > > Anyway, if there is anyone else out there that can give me any other > Windows > suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it. As I said, I'm pretty > discouraged at this point, and I'm starting to wish that I didn't > have to do > this project :-( > > Thanks! > > JD > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au] > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:12 AM > To: talk@webdna.us > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Newbie Questions > > > JD > > Try this: > > Select Web Sites Folder - Right Click > Properties > Home Directory Tab > Set Execute Permissions to Scripts Only > Click Config Button > Mappings Tab click add > Set Executable path to $WebCat.dll (Usually > C:\Inetpub\scripts\WebCatalogEngine) > Set Extension to .TPL > OK to exit > > Select Web Services Folder - Right Click > Add a new Web Service Extension Wizard button > Set Extension Name to "WebCat" > Click add button to add path to $WebCat.dll (Usually > C:\Inetpub\scripts\WebCatalogEngine) > Check box "Set extension status to allowed" > OK to exit > > At root of IIS, Where it says "Computer Name" (local computer) - > Right Click > All Tasks - Save Config to Disk All Tasks - Restart IIS > > > > > More info in the archives: > http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/DetailResults.tpl?command=search&db=web > dna-talk.db&eqIDdata=56216&max=1&words=server%202003 > > > > > > > Regards > > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au > > > > > On 15/09/2008, at 3:41 PM, JD Ready wrote: > >> Hi Donovan, >> >> Yes, I did look at the mapping instructions at the bottom of the >> Welcome >> Screen: >> >> Welcome to WebDNA 6.0 >> for Windows 95/98, NT, 2000, XP, and 2003 Server! >> >> Unfortunately, after doing all of the mappings and making sure the >> settings >> are as close as they can be. I then click on the >> "Administration" (or any >> other .tpl file), and I get an HTTP 500 Error. The stright html >> pages seem >> to diplay just fine. I don't see anything in the loag as far as >> errors, so >> again, I am completely lost and getting a little frustrated. >> >> Can anyone guide to to the right direction as to why I would be >> receiving >> these 500 errors, or, is there a log somewhere that the error might >> be >> getting logged? >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> JD >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Donovan Brooke [mailto:dbrooke@webdna.us] >> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:19 PM >> To: talk@webdna.us >> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Newbie Questions >> >> >> JD Ready wrote: >> >>> OK, here's the deal. I am a web developer (ASP/.NET & SQL Server, >>> PHP >>> & >>> MySQL). I have a friend that is purchasing a website written in >>> WebDNA >>> (currently maintained by Jay Van Vark?). The site is currently >>> running >>> on a Sun Server running Sparc, and the hosting company is charging >>> an >>> arm & a leg). >>> >>> I am technically in charge of taking over the site, so I am new to >>> WebDNA and wanted to get familiar with it. So I downloaded the >>> Developer Edition for Windows and I was trying to install on my XP >>> Pro >>> machine and have not been successful. The install runs, but the >>> mapping >>> does not take place for the .tpl files. I tried to do the mapping >>> manually myself but to no avail. So can anyone help me get that >>> going? >> >> >> >> Hello again JD, did you have a chance to look at the mapping >> instructions >> for Windows that I mentioned on the HTML forum? >> >> >> >>> Now, in addition, I run a Ubuntu server here in my office, but I >>> did not >>> see a build for that platform. However, I was surprised to see so >>> many >>> platform specific builds. I'm used to seeing generic Linux >>> builds. Why >>> are the builds so platform specific? Is it possible to run WebDNA >>> on a >>> generic Linux platform? That would allow me to significantly >>> reduce my >>> host costs. >> >> >> Probably. I think the only reason there are specific installers is >> that >> things can be in different places and use different libraries for the >> different >> builds. We are starting development just now (as we only acquired >> WebDNA >> a short time ago) and will be looking at the best ways to move >> forward with >> the Linux installers and support. I have a lot of ideas in that area >> and we >> have some >> good potential resources to really improve on the linux versitality >> during >> development. >> >> >>> And finally, is WebDNA generic enough across platforms to run the >>> same >>> code on Windows as it does on Linux/Unix? The database back-end >>> for the >>> website I will be running is a CSV file that is being exported from >>> FileMaker Pro on a Mac. At this point, I am unsure which version of >>> WebDNA I will need, but I am assuming the Commerce Edition at a >>> minimum. >> >> >> Yes, That is one of the "plusses" in regards to WebDNA. It works >> relatively >> the same across platforms. There are platform specific contexts and >> commands.. >> but all the core stuff is very portable. The CSV file is the heart of >> WebDNA's internal RAM resident table system.. so that will work >> fine. You >> just have to make sure the file format is clean before uploading >> (file >> format >> structure is in the docs at dev.webdna.us. >> >> >>> >>> Anyway, any help you guys can give me to point me in the right >>> direction >>> would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> JD Ready >> >> >> Respectfully to Chris's suggestion, I would rather suggest that you >> actually >> get started now. WebDNA on XP should run just fine as it is listed as >> supported. >> However, as I mentioned, >> this hasn't been my personal platform of choice and I won't be able >> to >> help much, other than pointing you to the instructions for mapping >> the >> suffixes for Windows. >> >> However, there are hundreds of Windows Servers running WebDNA out >> there, >> so I am guessing there are people on this list who can help you with >> install issues. >> >> Lastly, Chris and I and others will know a lot more in a couple/few >> months >> about all this stuff I'm sure ;-) (when we are in the thick of >> development). >> >> Hope that helps!... and hopefully someone else will chime in to help >> you >> get up and running quickly. >> >> Donovan >> >> P.S. Ubuntu is my personal favorite flavor! >> >> >> >> -- >> Donovan D. Brooke PH/FAX: 1 (608) 291-2024 >> ---------------------------------------------- >> VP >> WebDNA Software Corporation >> 16192 Coastal Highway >> Lewes, DE 19958 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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