Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA vs. php war ;-)
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texte = It's like that because I don't know how to use php very well and created that video very late one night in the span of a few hours. As far as separate lines, much of that was simply a formatting issue for readability in the small video box size I had to work in... I agree, if I were to actually sit down and do that video again, but with a plan, rather than completely off the top of my head in a hurry, I would change the php to be more "fair", I suppose... But this is, after all, advertising, and there is usually an expected bias in favor of the advertiser. I don't hear Microsoft complaining that Mac users don't actually get laid more than PC users or whatever the "mac vs pc" commercials are trying to insinuate by having a cool, laid back guy for mac and a nerdy suit guy for pc. Do 4 out of 5 dentists really prefer Crust toothpase? Who are these dentists? Do they mean that 80% of ALL dentists prefer it, or that 4 out the only 5 dentists they hand-picked for the survey prefer it? And what about Preparation A through G? Surely they must be better because they come before H? I am happy that people are commenting on the obviously tongue-in-cheek video, period, since it's creating expose for WebDNA, and all criticism is welcome. php is welcome to make a rebuttal video :) -Dan Strong http://www.DanStrong.com On 2/19/2010 10:53 AM, Paul Willis wrote: > At the risk of being chased off the list some commentators do have a point. > > A lot of the PHP example code is padded out unnecessarily. Why are the tags included on separate lines, why isn't there a similar at the top of each example? Not to mention that many setups work with short PHP tags > > You don't have to set a variable and then echo it, you can just print it straight out etc., for instance... > > $browser = $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT']; > print "$browser"; > ?> > > could be... > > > > There are also various (unnecessary) lines of error checking code included in the PHP samples. > > The thing is WebNDA is simpler to code than PHP we don't have to 'cheat' to prove it. > > is still longer and messier than [browsername] > > Paul > > > > > On 5 Feb 2010, at 21:32, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > > >> done :-) >> >> >> On Feb 5, 2010, at 16:55, Dan Strong wrote: >> >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=0t20QJtFnR8 >>> >>> Let's get him! >>> -Dan >>> >>> =================================== >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t20QJtFnR8 >>> >>> "sam58810976" has made a comment on WebDNA vs. php/mySQL: >>> >>> [math]9+4[/math] >>> echo 9+4; >>> PHP wins that one without the bias >>> >>> > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list
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It's like that because I don't know how to use php very well and created that video very late one night in the span of a few hours. As far as separate lines, much of that was simply a formatting issue for readability in the small video box size I had to work in... I agree, if I were to actually sit down and do that video again, but with a plan, rather than completely off the top of my head in a hurry, I would change the php to be more "fair", I suppose... But this is, after all, advertising, and there is usually an expected bias in favor of the advertiser. I don't hear Microsoft complaining that Mac users don't actually get laid more than PC users or whatever the "mac vs pc" commercials are trying to insinuate by having a cool, laid back guy for mac and a nerdy suit guy for pc. Do 4 out of 5 dentists really prefer Crust toothpase? Who are these dentists? Do they mean that 80% of ALL dentists prefer it, or that 4 out the only 5 dentists they hand-picked for the survey prefer it? And what about Preparation A through G? Surely they must be better because they come before H? I am happy that people are commenting on the obviously tongue-in-cheek video, period, since it's creating expose for WebDNA, and all criticism is welcome. php is welcome to make a rebuttal video :) -Dan Strong http://www.DanStrong.com On 2/19/2010 10:53 AM, Paul Willis wrote: > At the risk of being chased off the list some commentators do have a point. > > A lot of the PHP example code is padded out unnecessarily. Why are the tags included on separate lines, why isn't there a similar at the top of each example? Not to mention that many setups work with short PHP tags > > You don't have to set a variable and then echo it, you can just print it straight out etc., for instance... > > $browser = $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT']; > print "$browser"; > ?> > > could be... > > > > There are also various (unnecessary) lines of error checking code included in the PHP samples. > > The thing is WebNDA is simpler to code than PHP we don't have to 'cheat' to prove it. > > is still longer and messier than [browsername] > > Paul > > > > > On 5 Feb 2010, at 21:32, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > > >> done :-) >> >> >> On Feb 5, 2010, at 16:55, Dan Strong wrote: >> >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=0t20QJtFnR8 >>> >>> Let's get him! >>> -Dan >>> >>> =================================== >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t20QJtFnR8 >>> >>> "sam58810976" has made a comment on WebDNA vs. php/mySQL: >>> >>> [math]9+4[/math] >>> echo 9+4; >>> PHP wins that one without the bias >>> >>> > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list. > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=topics&category=288 >
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