Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS

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2011


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = My method on a site that has thousands of products available was to = support URL's like this one: www.example.com/item_1234_product_name_here.html In the WebCatalogEngine/ErrorMessages.db file, I have this: TemplateNotFound[include ^error/gTemplateNotFound.incl] That include file is generic and supports multiple virtual hosts on the = same server. It finds that the host is "example.com" and includes a = host-specific include file: [include ^example_com/error/TemplateNotFound.incl] The host-specific include file finds that [thisurl] begins with "item_" = and includes, rather than redirects to, the "item_.html" page thusly: [include /item_.html] The item_.html page parses [thisurl], grabbing the "1234" and ignoring = the rest: [text]tSKU=3D[listwords words=3D[ulr][thisurl][/url]&delimiters=3D_][showi= f [index]=3D2][word][/showif][/listwords][/text] It then uses tSKU to lookup specifics of the product and builds the = product page, including any dynamic content such as current logged in = user, shopping cart status, and an add-to-cart form. Note that this current implementation is dependent on the Globals folder = and will have to be modified if and when I move to WebDNA 7, but that = will be pretty easy, basically skipping the step where the generic error = include file is used. - Brian Fries On Apr 27, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Brian B. Burton wrote: > What I think I'd like to do is tie into the page not found system,=20 > i.e. have the server send my 404 request to instead of error.html to = URLs.tpl >=20 > that way all pages act as they do currently BUT > for any "pretty" URL, it gets "not found" and rerouted to URLs.tpl >=20 > and inside that file i want to do something like: (yes this is 100% = wrong, just typing outloud here) > [showif [url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('notebook_battery/$')[/grep]] = [include file=3Dalphamfg.tpl&_CID=3D2][/showif] > [showif = [url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('('notebook_battery/(?P\w+)/$')[/grep]= ] [include file=3Dpickmodel&_CID=3D2&_MFG=3D[MFG]][/showif] > [showif = [url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('('notebook_battery/(?P[^/]+)/(?P= \d+).*')[/grep]] [include = file=3Dmodelinfo&_CID=3D2&_MFG=3D[MFG]&_FID=3D[FID]][/showif] >=20 > (and have a last rule that actually redirects to a 404 page...) >=20 > I want to figure out how to use an include so that i'm specifically = not rewriting and redirecting the URL (thus making it ugly) >=20 > Anyone currently doing anything like this? > If I can figure out how to do it, is anyone else interested in the = code? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Brian B. Burton > brian@burtons.com >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > time is precious. waste it wisely > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:22 AM, William DeVaul wrote: >=20 >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Kenneth Grome = wrote: >>>> I'm not sure why you'd leave the humans ugly URLs. >>>=20 >>> Because those URLs are the default URLs for WebDNA. >>=20 >> I thought the parameterized URLs were a convention that came about in >> the early days of the Internet. Seems the convention is ripe for >> change. >>=20 >> In general, I'm for programmer convenience versus optimization for = the >> computer. But I'd put user convenience above the programmer's. In >> some frameworks the default is "prettier" to the benefit of users and >> programmers. >>=20 >>>> The search engines like keywords. >>>=20 >>> They get plenty of keywords in the static pages. >>=20 >> I think it is about quality of the keyword placement (in incoming >> links, in the domain, in the URLs, in "important" tags e.g.

). >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (William DeVaul 2011)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (sgbc cebu 2011)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Tom Duke 2011)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (William DeVaul 2011)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Stuart Tremain 2011)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Brian Fries 2011)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Govinda 2011)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Daniel Meola 2011)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS ("Brian B. Burton" 2011)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS ("Brian B. Burton" 2011)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (William DeVaul 2011)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (William DeVaul 2011)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Govinda 2011)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (William DeVaul 2011)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Stuart Tremain 2011)
  21. [WebDNA] Pretty URLS ("Brian B. Burton" 2011)
My method on a site that has thousands of products available was to = support URL's like this one: www.example.com/item_1234_product_name_here.html In the WebCatalogEngine/ErrorMessages.db file, I have this: TemplateNotFound[include ^error/gTemplateNotFound.incl] That include file is generic and supports multiple virtual hosts on the = same server. It finds that the host is "example.com" and includes a = host-specific include file: [include ^example_com/error/TemplateNotFound.incl] The host-specific include file finds that [thisurl] begins with "item_" = and includes, rather than redirects to, the "item_.html" page thusly: [include /item_.html] The item_.html page parses [thisurl], grabbing the "1234" and ignoring = the rest: [text]tSKU=3D[listwords words=3D[ulr][thisurl][/url]&delimiters=3D_][showi= f [index]=3D2][word][/showif][/listwords][/text] It then uses tSKU to lookup specifics of the product and builds the = product page, including any dynamic content such as current logged in = user, shopping cart status, and an add-to-cart form. Note that this current implementation is dependent on the Globals folder = and will have to be modified if and when I move to WebDNA 7, but that = will be pretty easy, basically skipping the step where the generic error = include file is used. - Brian Fries On Apr 27, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Brian B. Burton wrote: > What I think I'd like to do is tie into the page not found system,=20 > i.e. have the server send my 404 request to instead of error.html to = URLs.tpl >=20 > that way all pages act as they do currently BUT > for any "pretty" URL, it gets "not found" and rerouted to URLs.tpl >=20 > and inside that file i want to do something like: (yes this is 100% = wrong, just typing outloud here) > [showif [url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('notebook_battery/$')[/grep]] = [include file=3Dalphamfg.tpl&_CID=3D2][/showif] > [showif = [url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('('notebook_battery/(?P\w+)/$')[/grep]= ] [include file=3Dpickmodel&_CID=3D2&_MFG=3D[MFG]][/showif] > [showif = [url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('('notebook_battery/(?P[^/]+)/(?P= \d+).*')[/grep]] [include = file=3Dmodelinfo&_CID=3D2&_MFG=3D[MFG]&_FID=3D[FID]][/showif] >=20 > (and have a last rule that actually redirects to a 404 page...) >=20 > I want to figure out how to use an include so that i'm specifically = not rewriting and redirecting the URL (thus making it ugly) >=20 > Anyone currently doing anything like this? > If I can figure out how to do it, is anyone else interested in the = code? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Brian B. Burton > brian@burtons.com >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > time is precious. waste it wisely > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:22 AM, William DeVaul wrote: >=20 >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Kenneth Grome = wrote: >>>> I'm not sure why you'd leave the humans ugly URLs. >>>=20 >>> Because those URLs are the default URLs for WebDNA. >>=20 >> I thought the parameterized URLs were a convention that came about in >> the early days of the Internet. Seems the convention is ripe for >> change. >>=20 >> In general, I'm for programmer convenience versus optimization for = the >> computer. But I'd put user convenience above the programmer's. In >> some frameworks the default is "prettier" to the benefit of users and >> programmers. >>=20 >>>> The search engines like keywords. >>>=20 >>> They get plenty of keywords in the static pages. >>=20 >> I think it is about quality of the keyword placement (in incoming >> links, in the domain, in the URLs, in "important" tags e.g.

). >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 Brian Fries

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