).>=20>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us--Apple-Mail-1--785795988Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/html;charset=us-asciiSomething like this:

TemplateNotFound=[text]product_to_find=3D[middle =startafter=3D/&endbefore=3D.][thisurl][/middle][/text][Search =db=3D^data/directproducts.db&eqACTIVEdatarq=3DT&eqWEBORDERdatarq=3D=T&woGROUP1datarq=3D[product_to_find]&GROUP1field=3DDirectproduct+T=ype+Type02+type03+Brand+Description+Colour&max=3D1][founditems][includ=e file=3D^include/site/productpage01.inc][/founditems][showif =[numfound]=3D0][redirect =error.html?id=3D[product_to_find]][/showif][/search]

This of course depends on how your product db is =structured.

I also use isapi_rewrite to =do this, which could very easily be done in webdna ="TemplateNotFound"

# This rule is to manage products =when URL =3D http://www.do=main.com.au/brandname/productname.html

RewriteRule=/([a-z,0-9\_\-\%\+]+)/([a-z,0-9\_\-\%\+]+).html=/productdisplay.html\?brandname=3D$1&productname=3D$2=[I,L]

On 28/04/2011, at 12:58 AM, Brian B. Burton =wrote:

What I think I'd like to do is tie into the page not =found system,
i.e. have the server send my 404 request to instead of =error.html to URLs.tpl

that way all pages act as they do =currently BUT
for any "pretty" URL, it gets "not found" and rerouted =to URLs.tpl

and inside that file i want to do something like: =(yes this is 100% wrong, just typing outloud here)
=   [showif =[url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('notebook_battery/$')[/grep]] =   [include file=3Dalphamfg.tpl&_CID=3D2][/showif]
=   [showif =[url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('('notebook_battery/(?P<MFG>\w+)/$')[=/grep]]     [include =file=3Dpickmodel&_CID=3D2&_MFG=3D[MFG]][/showif]
=   [showif =[url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('('notebook_battery/(?P<MFG>[^/]+)/(?=P<FID>\d+).*')[/grep]]    [include =file=3Dmodelinfo&_CID=3D2&_MFG=3D[MFG]&_FID=3D[FID]][/showif]<=br>
(and have a last rule that actually redirects to a 404 =page...)

I want to figure out how to use an include so that i'm =specifically not rewriting and redirecting the URL (thus making it =ugly)

Anyone currently doing anything like this?
If I can =figure out how to do it, is anyone else interested in the =code?




Brian B. Burton
brian@burtons.com

=           =3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=            &n=bsp;       time is precious. waste it =wisely
=           =3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D



On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:22 AM, William =DeVaul wrote:

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at =11:38 PM, Kenneth Grome <kengrome@gmail.com> =wrote:

I'm not sure why you'd leave the =humans ugly URLs.

Because those URLs are the =default URLs for WebDNA.

I thought the =parameterized URLs were a convention that came about =in

the early days of the =Internet.  Seems the convention is ripe =for

change.

In general, I'm =for programmer convenience versus optimization for =the

computer.  But I'd =put user convenience above the programmer's. = In

some frameworks the =default is "prettier" to the benefit of users =and

programmers.

The search engines like =keywords.

They get plenty of keywords in =the static pages.

I think it is =about quality of the keyword placement (in =incoming

links, in the domain, =in the URLs, in "important" tags e.g. =<h1>).

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=--Apple-Mail-1--785795988-- Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (William DeVaul 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (sgbc cebu 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Tom Duke 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (William DeVaul 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Stuart Tremain 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Kenneth Grome 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Brian Fries 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Kenneth Grome 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Govinda 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Daniel Meola 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS ("Brian B. Burton" 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Kenneth Grome 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS ("Brian B. Burton" 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (William DeVaul 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Kenneth Grome 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (William DeVaul 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Govinda 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Kenneth Grome 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (William DeVaul 2011) Re: [WebDNA] Pretty URLS (Stuart Tremain 2011) [WebDNA] Pretty URLS ("Brian B. Burton" 2011)

--Apple-Mail-1--785795988Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/plain;charset=us-asciiSomething like this:TemplateNotFound[text]product_to_find=3D[middle =startafter=3D/&endbefore=3D.][thisurl][/middle][/text][Search =db=3D^data/directproducts.db&eqACTIVEdatarq=3DT&eqWEBORDERdatarq=3DT&woGRO=UP1datarq=3D[product_to_find]&GROUP1field=3DDirectproduct+Type+Type02+type=03+Brand+Description+Colour&max=3D1][founditems][include =file=3D^include/site/productpage01.inc][/founditems][showif =[numfound]=3D0][redirect =error.html?id=3D[product_to_find]][/showif][/search]This of course depends on how your product db is structured.I also use isapi_rewrite to do this, which could very easily be done in =webdna "TemplateNotFound"# This rule is to manage products when URL =3D =http://www.domain.com.au/brandname/productname.htmlRewriteRule/([a-z,0-9\_\-\%\+]+)/([a-z,0-9\_\-\%\+]+).html=/productdisplay.html\?brandname=3D$1&productname=3D$2[I,L]On 28/04/2011, at 12:58 AM, Brian B. Burton wrote:> What I think I'd like to do is tie into the page not found system,=20> i.e. have the server send my 404 request to instead of error.html to =URLs.tpl>=20> that way all pages act as they do currently BUT> for any "pretty" URL, it gets "not found" and rerouted to URLs.tpl>=20> and inside that file i want to do something like: (yes this is 100% =wrong, just typing outloud here)> [showif [url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('notebook_battery/$')[/grep]] = [include file=3Dalphamfg.tpl&_CID=3D2][/showif]> [showif =[url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('('notebook_battery/(?P\w+)/$')[/grep]=] [include file=3Dpickmodel&_CID=3D2&_MFG=3D[MFG]][/showif]> [showif =[url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('('notebook_battery/(?P[^/]+)/(?P=\d+).*')[/grep]] [include =file=3Dmodelinfo&_CID=3D2&_MFG=3D[MFG]&_FID=3D[FID]][/showif]>=20> (and have a last rule that actually redirects to a 404 page...)>=20> I want to figure out how to use an include so that i'm specifically =not rewriting and redirecting the URL (thus making it ugly)>=20> Anyone currently doing anything like this?> If I can figure out how to do it, is anyone else interested in the =code?>=20>=20>=20>=20> Brian B. Burton> brian@burtons.com>=20> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> time is precious. waste it wisely> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>=20>=20>=20> On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:22 AM, William DeVaul wrote:>=20>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Kenneth Grome =wrote:>>>> I'm not sure why you'd leave the humans ugly URLs.>>>=20>>> Because those URLs are the default URLs for WebDNA.>>=20>> I thought the parameterized URLs were a convention that came about in>> the early days of the Internet. Seems the convention is ripe for>> change.>>=20>> In general, I'm for programmer convenience versus optimization for =the>> computer. But I'd put user convenience above the programmer's. In>> some frameworks the default is "prettier" to the benefit of users and>> programmers.>>=20>>>> The search engines like keywords.>>>=20>>> They get plenty of keywords in the static pages.>>=20>> I think it is about quality of the keyword placement (in incoming>> links, in the domain, in the URLs, in "important" tags e.g.

).>=20>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us--Apple-Mail-1--785795988Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/html;charset=us-asciiSomething like this:

TemplateNotFound=[text]product_to_find=3D[middle =startafter=3D/&endbefore=3D.][thisurl][/middle][/text][Search =db=3D^data/directproducts.db&eqACTIVEdatarq=3DT&eqWEBORDERdatarq=3D=T&woGROUP1datarq=3D[product_to_find]&GROUP1field=3DDirectproduct+T=ype+Type02+type03+Brand+Description+Colour&max=3D1][founditems][includ=e file=3D^include/site/productpage01.inc][/founditems][showif =[numfound]=3D0][redirect =error.html?id=3D[product_to_find]][/showif][/search]

This of course depends on how your product db is =structured.

I also use isapi_rewrite to =do this, which could very easily be done in webdna ="TemplateNotFound"

# This rule is to manage products =when URL =3D http://www.do=main.com.au/brandname/productname.html

RewriteRule=/([a-z,0-9\_\-\%\+]+)/([a-z,0-9\_\-\%\+]+).html=/productdisplay.html\?brandname=3D$1&productname=3D$2=[I,L]

On 28/04/2011, at 12:58 AM, Brian B. Burton =wrote:

What I think I'd like to do is tie into the page not =found system,
i.e. have the server send my 404 request to instead of =error.html to URLs.tpl

that way all pages act as they do =currently BUT
for any "pretty" URL, it gets "not found" and rerouted =to URLs.tpl

and inside that file i want to do something like: =(yes this is 100% wrong, just typing outloud here)
=   [showif =[url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('notebook_battery/$')[/grep]] =   [include file=3Dalphamfg.tpl&_CID=3D2][/showif]
=   [showif =[url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('('notebook_battery/(?P<MFG>\w+)/$')[=/grep]]     [include =file=3Dpickmodel&_CID=3D2&_MFG=3D[MFG]][/showif]
=   [showif =[url][thispage][/url]=3D[grep]('('notebook_battery/(?P<MFG>[^/]+)/(?=P<FID>\d+).*')[/grep]]    [include =file=3Dmodelinfo&_CID=3D2&_MFG=3D[MFG]&_FID=3D[FID]][/showif]<=br>
(and have a last rule that actually redirects to a 404 =page...)

I want to figure out how to use an include so that i'm =specifically not rewriting and redirecting the URL (thus making it =ugly)

Anyone currently doing anything like this?
If I can =figure out how to do it, is anyone else interested in the =code?




Brian B. Burton
brian@burtons.com

=           =3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=            &n=bsp;       time is precious. waste it =wisely
=           =3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D



On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:22 AM, William =DeVaul wrote:

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at =11:38 PM, Kenneth Grome <kengrome@gmail.com> =wrote:

I'm not sure why you'd leave the =humans ugly URLs.

Because those URLs are the =default URLs for WebDNA.

I thought the =parameterized URLs were a convention that came about =in

the early days of the =Internet.  Seems the convention is ripe =for

change.

In general, I'm =for programmer convenience versus optimization for =the

computer.  But I'd =put user convenience above the programmer's. = In

some frameworks the =default is "prettier" to the benefit of users =and

programmers.

The search engines like =keywords.

They get plenty of keywords in =the static pages.

I think it is =about quality of the keyword placement (in =incoming

links, in the domain, =in the URLs, in "important" tags e.g. =<h1>).

-------------------------------------=--------------------
This message is sent to you because you are =subscribed to
the mailing list <talk@webdna.us>.
To =unsubscribe, E-mail to: <talk-leave@webdna.us>
archives: =http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us
Bug Reporting: =support@webdna.us

=--Apple-Mail-1--785795988-- Stuart Tremain

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