Re: [WebDNA] multi [sendmail] inside [search]
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It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = --Apple-Mail-1-1071496772 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Terry, I know about the bogus FROM address, and I am using the = same FROM address that works in several other places, but doesn't work = here, because it's too long.. Here is what I'm seeing if I use too many characters.... What should be: [sendmail = to=3Dsteve@fausttheatre.org&from=3Dsteve@fausttheatre.org&subject=3D123456= 7&content-type=3Dtext/html] Looks like this: endmail = to=3Dsteve@fausttheatre.org&from=3Dsteve@fausttheatre.org&subject=3D123456= 78&content-type=3Dtext/html] The first two characters are being truncated from my code if I put the 8 = in the subject line. This has got me stumped. On Jul 14, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Terry Wilson wrote: > I routinely send out emails with much longer subject lines. The same = for the to and from fields. As Ken noted in an earlier email, a bogus = FROM address is problematic. I know I can't put a bogus FROM address and = expect it to work. >=20 > Hope that helps. >=20 > Terry > On Jul 14, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Stephen Braun wrote: >=20 >> Thanks to all of you who have tried to help me with this. >> I have tested my code literally 100 times and here is what I've = found. >>=20 >> The [sendmail] won't work if the 'to' address, or the 'from' address, = or the 'subject line' has too many characters. >> It works fine when the subject line is 7 characters, but not 8. >> It works fine when the 'to' or 'from' domain is 12 characters, but = not when it is 23 characters. >>=20 >> Unfortunately, the domain name is 23 characters. >>=20 >> Would this be a setting that my host has set up in his email control = panel? >>=20 >> Thanks again to all of you who wrote back to me. >> Steve Braun >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jul 13, 2012, at 11:13 PM, WebDNA Solutions wrote: >>=20 >>>> It does both of your [writefile] commands perfectly, with >>>> several of my test employees, but does not do the >>>> [sendmail] in between. >>>=20 >>> How are you determining that the [sendmail] context is (or >>> is not) writing the appropriate files to disk from inside the >>> founditems context? >>>=20 >>> Are you checking the contents of the EMailProblem and >>> EMailCompleted folders to see which folder the mail files are >>> in? >>>=20 >>> Or are you assuming that the mail files are not being written >>> to disk simply because you fail to receive the email >>> messages in your inbox within a reasonable time? >>>=20 >>> What happens when you use a valid "From" address instead of >>> the bogus "From" address you're using now? Some mail >>> servers reject mail sent from a bogus "From" address. >>>=20 >>> What does the "Email Log.txt" file say about these emails? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> I was told that it is because the [sendmail] is inside of >>>> the [search]. >>>=20 >>> Who told you this? Is it the same person who is hosting >>> your site? >>>=20 >>> Whoever told you this is giving you bad advice. He needs to >>> learn how WebDNA really works before passing out any more >>> bad advice. >>>=20 >>> If it's the same person who is hosting your site he needs to >>> give you the data you request in order to debug this >>> problem, too. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> I don't have access to the server to check any of the >>>> settings, or know the platform. >>>=20 >>> Try using [platform] and you'll know what the platform is. >>> Also try [version] to learn which version of WebDNA is >>> running. >>>=20 >>> At the very least your host should give you access to the >>> Email Log.txt file, or send you a list of the [sendmail] files >>> you're creating from inside the founditems context. >>>=20 >>> ------------ >>>=20 >>> My guess is that the mail files are being written but not >>> being sent, which means they are being moved to the >>> EMailProblem folder. Of course you need access to this >>> folder in order to check and confirm this theory ... >>>=20 >>> Sincerely, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> WebDNA Solutions >>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>> WebDNA Programming and Linux Server Administration >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> Kenneth, >>>>=20 >>>> Here is my test code. >>>> It does both of your [writefile] commands perfectly, with >>>> several of my test employees, but does not do the >>>> [sendmail] in between. I was told that it is because the >>>> [sendmail] is inside of the [search] >>>>=20 >>>> [writefile >>>> testFounditemStart[index]][message_total_hours][/writefi >>>> le] [sendmail >>>> to=3Dsbraun1@twcny.rr.com&from=3DWebpage@mydomain.com&subjec >>>> t=3DTest Over 40 message (no reply)&content-type=3Dtext/html] >>>> [message_total_hours] >>>> [/sendmail] >>>> [writefile >>>> testFounditemEnd[index]][message_total_hours][/writefile >>>> ] >>>>=20 >>>> I don't have access to the server to check any of the >>>> settings, or know the platform. >>>>=20 >>>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 11:07 AM, WebDNA Solutions wrote: >>>>> There must be something wrong with your real code, >>>>> unless it's a temporary glitch that requires a reboot >>>>> to clear it up. >>>>>=20 >>>>> First reboot the server, then try your original code >>>>> again to see if it's working the way it should. If >>>>> not, try this as a test: >>>>>=20 >>>>> [search db=3D../login/website_users.db& >>>>> code..blah..code...] >>>>>=20 >>>>> [writefile testNumfound][numfound][/writefile] >>>>>=20 >>>>> [founditems] >>>>> code..blah..code... >>>>> [showif code..blah..code... >>>>>=20 >>>>> [loop start=3D[ >>>>> code..blah..code...] >>>>>=20 >>>>> [text] message =3D >>>>>=20 >>>>> [showif >>>>>=20 >>> code..blah..code.. >>>>> . [/showif] >>>>>=20 >>>>> [/text] >>>>>=20 >>>>> [/loop] >>>>>=20 >>>>> [/showif] >>>>>=20 >>>>> [writefile >>>>> testFounditemStart[index]][message][/writefile] >>>>>=20 >>>>> [sendmail >>>>>=20 >>>>> to=3Dtimeclock@domain.com&from=3DWebpage@domain.com&subject >>>>> =3DStaff Over 40 message (no >>>>> reply)&content-type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>=20 >>>>> [message] >>>>>=20 >>>>> [/sendmail] >>>>>=20 >>>>> [writefile >>>>> testFounditemEnd[index]][message][/writefile] >>>>>=20 >>>>> code..blah..code... >>>>> [/founditems] >>>>>=20 >>>>> [/search] >>>>>=20 >>>>> ... then see if the content of the testNumfound file >>>>> matches the number of testFounditemStart and >>>>> testFounditemEnd files -- and check the content of >>>>> these files to be sure they contain the correct >>>>> message. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>> WebDNA Programming and Linux Server Administration >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 10:04 AM, WebDNA Solutions wrote: >>>>>>>> The problem is, WebDNA doesn't like using a >>>>>>>> [sendmail] tag inside of a [search...][founditems] >>>>>>>> routine. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Of course it does, I've been doing this for years. >>>>>>> What seems to be the problem that causes you to say >>>>>>> this? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> The simple problem is that it won't work... >>>>>> Here's a sample.... >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> [search db=3D../login/website_users.db& >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> code..blah..code...] [founditems] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> code..blah..code... >>>>>> [showif code..blah..code... >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [loop start=3D[ code..blah..code...] >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [text] message =3D >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [showif code..blah..code... >>>>>> [/showif] >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [/text] >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [/loop] >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [/showif] >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [sendmail >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> to=3Dtimeclock@domain.com&from=3DWebpage@domain.com&subjec >>>>>> t=3D Staff Over 40 message (no >>>>>> reply)&content-type=3Dtext/html] [message] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> [/sendmail] >>>>>> code..blah..code... >>>>>> [/founditems] >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [/search] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> But this does work, but with only the last item >>>>>> found.... >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> [search db=3D../login/website_users.db& >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> code..blah..code...] [founditems] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> code..blah..code... >>>>>> [showif code..blah..code... >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [loop start=3D[ code..blah..code...] >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [text] message =3D >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [showif code..blah..code... >>>>>> [/showif] >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [/text] >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [/loop] >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [/showif] >>>>>> code..blah..code... >>>>>> [/founditems] >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [/search] >>>>>> =09 >>>>>> [sendmail to=3Dtimeclock@domain.com&from=3DWebpage@ >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> domain.com&subject=3DStaff Over 40 message (no >>>>>> reply)&content-type=3Dtext/html] [message] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> [/sendmail] >>>>>> =09 >>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>>> WebDNA Programming and Linux Server Administration >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> -- -- This message is sent to you because you are >>>>>>> subscribed to the mailing list
. To >>>>>>> unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> --- This message is sent to you because you are >>>>>> subscribed to the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>=20 >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -- This message is sent to you because you are >>>>> subscribed to the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail-1-1071496772 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Thanks Terry, I = know about the bogus FROM address, and I am using the same FROM address = that works in several other places, but doesn't work here, because it's = too long..
Here is what I'm seeing if I use too many = characters....
What should = be:
[sendmail = to=3Dsteve@fausttheatre.org&from=3Dsteve@fausttheatre.org
Looks like this:
The first two characters are being truncated from = my code if I put the 8 in the subject = line.
I = routinely send out emails with much longer subject lines. The same for = the to and from fields. As Ken noted in an earlier email, a bogus = FROM address is problematic. I know I can't put a bogus FROM address and = expect it to work.
Hope that helps.
Terry
On Jul 14, = 2012, at 10:30 AM, Stephen Braun wrote:
Thanks to all of you who have tried to help me with = this.
I have tested my code = literally 100 times and here is what I've = found.
The [sendmail] = won't work if the 'to' address, or the 'from' address, or the 'subject = line' has too many characters.
It works fine when the subject line is 7 characters, but = not 8.
It works fine when the = 'to' or 'from' domain is 12 characters, but not when it is 23 = characters.
Unfortunately, = the domain name is 23 characters.
Would this be a = setting that my host has set up in his email control = panel?
Thanks again to = all of you who wrote back to me.
Steve Braun
On Jul 13, = 2012, at 11:13 PM, WebDNA Solutions wrote:
It does both of your [writefile] = commands perfectly, = with
several = of my test employees, but does not do = the
[sendmail] in = between.
How are you determining that the = [sendmail] context is (or
is not) writing the appropriate = files to disk from inside the
founditems = context?
Are you checking the contents of = the EMailProblem and
EMailCompleted folders to see = which folder the mail files are
in?
Or are you assuming that the = mail files are not being = written
to disk simply because you fail to receive the = email
messages in your inbox within a reasonable = time?
What happens when you use a = valid "From" address instead of
the bogus "From" address you're = using now? Some mail
servers reject mail sent from a = bogus "From" address.
What does the "Email Log.txt" = file say about these emails?
I was = told that it is because the [sendmail] is inside = of
the = [search].
Who told you this? Is it = the same person who is hosting
your = site?
Whoever told you this is giving = you bad advice. He needs = to
learn how WebDNA really works before passing out any = more
bad advice.
If it's the same person who is = hosting your site he needs to
give you the data you request in = order to debug this
problem, = too.
I = don't have access to the server to check any of = the
settings, or know the = platform.
Try using [platform] and you'll = know what the platform is.
Also try [version] to learn = which version of WebDNA is
running.
At the very least your host = should give you access to the
Email Log.txt file, or send you = a list of the [sendmail] files
you're creating from inside the = founditems context.
------------
My guess is that the mail files = are being written but not
being sent, which means they are = being moved to the
EMailProblem folder. Of = course you need access to this
folder in order to check and = confirm this theory ...
Sincerely,
Kenneth = Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com=
WebDNA Programming and Linux Server = Administration
Kenneth,
Here = is my test code.
It = does both of your [writefile] commands perfectly, = with
several = of my test employees, but does not do = the
[sendmail] in between. I was told that it is because = the
[sendmail] is inside of the = [search]
= [writefile
testFounditemStart[index]][message_total_hours][/writefi
=
le] = [sendmail
to=3Dsbraun1@twcny.rr.com&from=3DWebpage@mydomain.com&am= p;subjec
t=3DTest= Over 40 message (no = reply)&content-type=3Dtext/html]
[message_total_hours]
= &n= bsp;[/sendmail]
= [writefile
testFounditemEnd[index]][message_total_hours][/writefile
=
]
I = don't have access to the server to check any of = the
settings, or know the = platform.
On Jul = 13, 2012, at 11:07 AM, WebDNA Solutions = wrote:
There must be something wrong = with your real = code,
unless it's a temporary glitch = that requires a = reboot
to clear it = up.
First reboot the server, then = try your original = code
again to see if it's working the = way it should. = If
not, try this as a = test:
[search = db=3D../login/website_users.db&
code..blah..code...]
[writefile = testNumfound][numfound][/writefile]
= [f= ounditems]
= co= de..blah..code...
<= blockquote type=3D"cite"> = [s= howif = code..blah..code...
= &n= bsp; [loop = start=3D[
= &n= bsp; code..blah..code...]
= &n= bsp; &nbs= p; [text] message = =3D
= &n= bsp; &nbs= p; [showi= f
code..blah..code..
= &n= bsp; &nbs= p; . = [/showif]
= &n= bsp; &nbs= p; [/text]
= &n= bsp; [/loop]
= [/= showif]
[writefile
testFounditemStart[index]][message][/writefile]
= [s= endmail
to=3Dtimeclock@domain.com&from=3DWebpage@domain.com&= subject
=3DStaff Over 40 message = (no
reply)&content-type=3Dtext/html]
= &n= bsp; [message]
= [/= sendmail]
[writefile
testFounditemEnd[index]][message][/writefile]
= co= de..blah..code...
<= blockquote type=3D"cite"> = [/= founditems]
= [/search]
... then see if the content of = the testNumfound = file
matches the number of = testFounditemStart = and
testFounditemEnd files -- and = check the content = of
these files to be sure they = contain the = correct
message.
Sincerely,
Kenneth = Grome
WebDNA = Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com=
WebDNA Programming and Linux = Server = Administration
On Jul = 13, 2012, at 10:04 AM, WebDNA Solutions = wrote:
The = problem is, WebDNA doesn't like using = a
[sendmail] tag inside of a = [search...][founditems]
routine.
Of = course it does, I've been doing this for = years.
What = seems to be the problem that causes you to = say
this?
The = simple problem is that it won't = work...
Here's = a = sample....
[search = db=3D../login/website_users.db&
code..blah..code...] = [founditems]
= code..blah..code...
[showif = code..blah..code...
=
[loop = start=3D[ = code..blah..code...]
=
[text] = message = =3D
=
[showif = code..blah..code...
= [/showif]
=
= [/text]
=
= [/loop]
=
= [/showif]
=
= [sendmail
to=3Dtimeclock@domain.com&from=3DWebpage@domain.com&= subjec
t=3D = Staff Over 40 message = (no
reply)&content-type=3Dtext/html] = [message]
= [/sendmail]
=
= code..blah..code...
= [/founditems]
=
= [/search]
But = this does work, but with only the last = item
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">found....
[search = db=3D../login/website_users.db&
code..blah..code...] = [founditems]
= code..blah..code...
[showif = code..blah..code...
=
[loop = start=3D[ = code..blah..code...]
=
[text] = message = =3D
=
[showif = code..blah..code...
= [/showif]
=
= [/text]
=
= [/loop]
=
= [/showif]
= code..blah..code...
= [/founditems]
=
= [/search]
=
= [sendmail = to=3Dtimeclock@domain.com&from=3DWebpage@
domain.com&subject=3DStaff Over 40 message = (no
reply)&content-type=3Dtext/html] = [message]
= [/sendmail]
=
=
Sincerely,
Kenneth = Grome
=
WebDNA = Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com=
WebDNA Programming and Linux = Server = Administration
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