RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI
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texte = Do you mean my mailserver logs, or WebDNA?It doesn't seem like the emails ever make it to my mailserver-WillAnything in the logs ?RegardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.auOn 12 Nov 2013, at 1:45 pm, WJ Starck, DDS
wrote:> Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, you're right I had forgotten to > re-enter the auth password for the email address when I changed out thewebdna.ini file.> > Now, however, once again nothing shows up in any of the EMail folders.> > I'm completely stumped, this has never been a problem before.> > Will> > -----Original Message-----> From: WebDNA [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 8:19 PM> To: WebDNA Talk List> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI> > You need to put in the username, password, port and SMTP domain in the > email settings.> > > Regards> > Stuart Tremain> IDFK Web Developments> AUSTRALIA> webdna@idfk.com.au> > > > > On 12 Nov 2013, at 1:17 pm, WJ Starck, DDS wrote:> >> OK, getting somewhere I hope ;)>> >> I replaced the webdna.ini with a fresh copy. Now the emails are >> ending up in the EMailProblem folder. Here is what the log shows>> >> 11/11/201319:26:32Sending Message Using Auth To:>> info@domaina.com0>> 11/11/201319:26:34General email error-1>> 138421958223TTdone>> 11/11/201319:26:44Sending Message Using Auth To:>> wjs@domainb.net0>> 11/11/201319:26:46General email error-1>> 138421958226TTdone>> >> Any ideas/suggestions greatly appreciated!>> >> Will>> >> -----Original Message----->> From: William J. Starck, DDS [mailto:wjs@bigideasoft.com]>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 5:14 PM>> To: talk@webdna.us>> Subject: RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>> >> Hmmm can't tell from the logs because at the moment WebDNA is not >> sending the emails at all (nothing appears in the EMailFolder).>> >> But the server is 64 bit Linux Mint (Ubuntu based); CommuniGate Pro >> is the mail server and I'm using the FastCGI.>> >> :P>> >> Will>> >> -----Original Message----->> From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:41 PM>> To: WebDNA Talk List>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>> >> What is in the email log ?>> >> If you have multiple entries it is definitely a WebDNA problem. If >> you have one entry and multiple sends you may have a SMTP problem.>> >> There was a problem similar to this a few years back with a linux >> SMTP server, I can't be sure but it may have been squirrel mail.>> >> I had a similar problem on a windows server that I never got to the >> bottom of after years of trying, in fact it prompted me to move to >> Linux> hosting.>> >> Stuart>> >> >> >> >> On 12 Nov 2013, at 6:40 am, William J. Starck, DDS >> >> wrote:>> >>> Chris->>> >>> This website's folder was a virtual domain on the other server. On >>> this server it is the only domain running.>>> >>> So I have:>>> >>> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com with uid:gid www-data:www-data >>> permissions>>> 755>>> >>> WebDNA is at>>> >>> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com/WebDNA with the same uid:gid and >>> permissions>>> >>> I edited the paths for document root and WebDNA.fcgi in >>> lighttpd.conf to reflect this.>>> >>> All the pages are being served by WebDNA properly, and I haven't >>> moved any of the folders inside of the WebDNA folder.>>> >>> The ticks were set to 10, I tried bumping them to 30. Don't know if >>> that solves the multiple email problem, because as I said nothing is >>> showing up in the EMailFolder.>>> >>> Will>>> >>> -----Original Message----->>> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:08 PM>>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>> >>> The first behavior you mentionned "a real customer tried to use the >>> form, and I got about a hundred emails from her one submission", my >>> guess is your ticks delay is too small. The second behavior "emails >>> aren't being sent at all" sounds like webdna.fcgi cannot write to >>> /EMailFolder, either because it is not in the place it expects, or >>> because of permissions or UID:GID. Did you move a folder? or thefastCGI?>> does it run with www-data:www-data? etc.>>> >>> - chris>>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:41 PM, William J. Starck, DDS >>> >>> wrote:>>> >>>> Thanks for the reply Chris->>>> >>>> So, if nothing is showing up at all in the EMailFolder, is it a>>> permissions>>>> problem?>>>> >>>> Owner and Group for that folder is www-data:www-data and >>>> permissions are>>> 755>>>> >>>> ???>>>> >>>> Will>>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----->>>> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >>>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:33 PM>>>> To: >>>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with >>>> FastCGI>>>> >>>> Hi Will!>>>> >>>> Here is how WebDNA works to send email: WebDNA writes the mail to >>>> be sent>>> in>>>> /EMailFolder. There is only 1 thread sending email unless someone >>>> has sandboxing turned on (version 6.2). The email thread sleeps for >>>> X ticks, then wakes up, runs through the EMailFolder, processes one >>>> single>>> acceptable>>>> mail by forwarding it to a SMTP server, adds a log entry in >>>> /EMailLog and moves the mail to /EMailCompleted, then sleeps for X >>>> ticks, and>> repeats.>>>> >>>> Acceptable means that the filename ends in the word "done".>>>> >>>> Processing the mail means the mail is sent through port 25 to >>>> either a localhost SMTP server or an external one.>>>> >>>> It will only process one email file for each sleep/wake cycle. So >>>> if the main thread starts to write a new email file while the email >>>> thread is in the middle of a waking cycle, it does not matter. It >>>> will be ignored until the main thread renames it to end in "done", >>>> at which point the email>>> thread>>>> will consider it during the next wake cycle.>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - chris>>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:20 PM, William J. Starck, DDS >>>> >>>> wrote:>>>> >>>>> I recently moved a FastCGI install over to Linux Mint 15.>>>>> >>>>> Starting about 2 months ago, I started noticing that one of my >>>>> templates>>>> with a [sendmail] that was previously working fine under Ubuntu was>>> sending>>>> multiple (hundreds) of emails when the form is submitted. I was >>>> getting>>> hit>>>> by a spambot, so I thought that the template was just getting hit >>>> rapidly multiple times. Then on Friday a real customer tried to >>>> use the form, and>>> I>>>> got about a hundred emails from her one submission.>>>>> >>>>> Now emails aren't being sent at all, and nothing is showing up in>>>> EMailFolder, EMailCompleted or EMailProblem folders. I'm stumped.>>>>> >>>>> Here is EmailerPrefs:>>>>> >>>>> mail.myserver.com>>>>> EMailFolder/>>>>> EMailCompleted/>>>>> EMailLog/>>>>> 10>>>>> >>>>> Any suggestions? Chris, could you ssh in and have a look?>>>>> >>>>> Thanks,>>>>> >>>>> Will>>>>> >>>>> -->>>>> William J. Starck, DDS>>>>> Big Idea Software, LLC>>>>> 1850 Keller Parkway Suite 102>>>>> Keller, TX 76248>>>>> 817-431-9566>>>>> http://www.bigideasoft.com>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>>> message is>>>> sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To>>> unsubscribe,>>>> E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug>>>> Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>> mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>> mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>> >> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >> list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>> >> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >> list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>> >> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >> list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> > ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> > ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us---------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list.To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.usBug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (WebDNA 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("WJ Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (WebDNA 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("WJ Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (WebDNA 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (WebDNA 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("WJ Starck, DDS" 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (Stuart Tremain 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2013)
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Do you mean my mailserver logs, or WebDNA?It doesn't seem like the emails ever make it to my mailserver-WillAnything in the logs ?RegardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.auOn 12 Nov 2013, at 1:45 pm, WJ Starck, DDS wrote:> Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, you're right I had forgotten to > re-enter the auth password for the email address when I changed out thewebdna.ini file.> > Now, however, once again nothing shows up in any of the EMail folders.> > I'm completely stumped, this has never been a problem before.> > Will> > -----Original Message-----> From: WebDNA [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 8:19 PM> To: WebDNA Talk List> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI> > You need to put in the username, password, port and SMTP domain in the > email settings.> > > Regards> > Stuart Tremain> IDFK Web Developments> AUSTRALIA> webdna@idfk.com.au> > > > > On 12 Nov 2013, at 1:17 pm, WJ Starck, DDS wrote:> >> OK, getting somewhere I hope ;)>> >> I replaced the webdna.ini with a fresh copy. Now the emails are >> ending up in the EMailProblem folder. Here is what the log shows>> >> 11/11/201319:26:32Sending Message Using Auth To:>> info@domaina.com0>> 11/11/201319:26:34General email error-1>> 138421958223TTdone>> 11/11/201319:26:44Sending Message Using Auth To:>> wjs@domainb.net0>> 11/11/201319:26:46General email error-1>> 138421958226TTdone>> >> Any ideas/suggestions greatly appreciated!>> >> Will>> >> -----Original Message----->> From: William J. Starck, DDS [mailto:wjs@bigideasoft.com]>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 5:14 PM>> To: talk@webdna.us>> Subject: RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>> >> Hmmm can't tell from the logs because at the moment WebDNA is not >> sending the emails at all (nothing appears in the EMailFolder).>> >> But the server is 64 bit Linux Mint (Ubuntu based); CommuniGate Pro >> is the mail server and I'm using the FastCGI.>> >> :P>> >> Will>> >> -----Original Message----->> From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:41 PM>> To: WebDNA Talk List>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>> >> What is in the email log ?>> >> If you have multiple entries it is definitely a WebDNA problem. If >> you have one entry and multiple sends you may have a SMTP problem.>> >> There was a problem similar to this a few years back with a linux >> SMTP server, I can't be sure but it may have been squirrel mail.>> >> I had a similar problem on a windows server that I never got to the >> bottom of after years of trying, in fact it prompted me to move to >> Linux> hosting.>> >> Stuart>> >> >> >> >> On 12 Nov 2013, at 6:40 am, William J. Starck, DDS >> >> wrote:>> >>> Chris->>> >>> This website's folder was a virtual domain on the other server. On >>> this server it is the only domain running.>>> >>> So I have:>>> >>> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com with uid:gid www-data:www-data >>> permissions>>> 755>>> >>> WebDNA is at>>> >>> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com/WebDNA with the same uid:gid and >>> permissions>>> >>> I edited the paths for document root and WebDNA.fcgi in >>> lighttpd.conf to reflect this.>>> >>> All the pages are being served by WebDNA properly, and I haven't >>> moved any of the folders inside of the WebDNA folder.>>> >>> The ticks were set to 10, I tried bumping them to 30. Don't know if >>> that solves the multiple email problem, because as I said nothing is >>> showing up in the EMailFolder.>>> >>> Will>>> >>> -----Original Message----->>> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:08 PM>>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>> >>> The first behavior you mentionned "a real customer tried to use the >>> form, and I got about a hundred emails from her one submission", my >>> guess is your ticks delay is too small. The second behavior "emails >>> aren't being sent at all" sounds like webdna.fcgi cannot write to >>> /EMailFolder, either because it is not in the place it expects, or >>> because of permissions or UID:GID. Did you move a folder? or thefastCGI?>> does it run with www-data:www-data? etc.>>> >>> - chris>>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:41 PM, William J. Starck, DDS >>> >>> wrote:>>> >>>> Thanks for the reply Chris->>>> >>>> So, if nothing is showing up at all in the EMailFolder, is it a>>> permissions>>>> problem?>>>> >>>> Owner and Group for that folder is www-data:www-data and >>>> permissions are>>> 755>>>> >>>> ???>>>> >>>> Will>>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----->>>> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >>>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:33 PM>>>> To: >>>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with >>>> FastCGI>>>> >>>> Hi Will!>>>> >>>> Here is how WebDNA works to send email: WebDNA writes the mail to >>>> be sent>>> in>>>> /EMailFolder. There is only 1 thread sending email unless someone >>>> has sandboxing turned on (version 6.2). The email thread sleeps for >>>> X ticks, then wakes up, runs through the EMailFolder, processes one >>>> single>>> acceptable>>>> mail by forwarding it to a SMTP server, adds a log entry in >>>> /EMailLog and moves the mail to /EMailCompleted, then sleeps for X >>>> ticks, and>> repeats.>>>> >>>> Acceptable means that the filename ends in the word "done".>>>> >>>> Processing the mail means the mail is sent through port 25 to >>>> either a localhost SMTP server or an external one.>>>> >>>> It will only process one email file for each sleep/wake cycle. So >>>> if the main thread starts to write a new email file while the email >>>> thread is in the middle of a waking cycle, it does not matter. It >>>> will be ignored until the main thread renames it to end in "done", >>>> at which point the email>>> thread>>>> will consider it during the next wake cycle.>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - chris>>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:20 PM, William J. Starck, DDS >>>> >>>> wrote:>>>> >>>>> I recently moved a FastCGI install over to Linux Mint 15.>>>>> >>>>> Starting about 2 months ago, I started noticing that one of my >>>>> templates>>>> with a [sendmail] that was previously working fine under Ubuntu was>>> sending>>>> multiple (hundreds) of emails when the form is submitted. I was >>>> getting>>> hit>>>> by a spambot, so I thought that the template was just getting hit >>>> rapidly multiple times. Then on Friday a real customer tried to >>>> use the form, and>>> I>>>> got about a hundred emails from her one submission.>>>>> >>>>> Now emails aren't being sent at all, and nothing is showing up in>>>> EMailFolder, EMailCompleted or EMailProblem folders. I'm stumped.>>>>> >>>>> Here is EmailerPrefs:>>>>> >>>>> mail.myserver.com>>>>> EMailFolder/>>>>> EMailCompleted/>>>>> EMailLog/>>>>> 10>>>>> >>>>> Any suggestions? Chris, could you ssh in and have a look?>>>>> >>>>> Thanks,>>>>> >>>>> Will>>>>> >>>>> -->>>>> William J. Starck, DDS>>>>> Big Idea Software, LLC>>>>> 1850 Keller Parkway Suite 102>>>>> Keller, TX 76248>>>>> 817-431-9566>>>>> http://www.bigideasoft.com>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>>> message is>>>> sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To>>> unsubscribe,>>>> E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug>>>> Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>> mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>> mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>> >> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >> list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>> >> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >> list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>> >> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >> list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> > ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> > ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us---------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list.To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.usBug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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