Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI
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texte = OR ....It could not send an email to info@domaina.com because it does not =exist.RegardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.auOn 12 Nov 2013, at 1:17 pm, WJ Starck, DDS
wrote:> OK, getting somewhere I hope ;)>=20> I replaced the webdna.ini with a fresh copy. Now the emails are ending =up in> the EMailProblem folder. Here is what the log shows>=20> 11/11/201319:26:32Sending Message Using Auth To:> info@domaina.com0=09> 11/11/201319:26:34General email error-1> 138421958223TTdone> 11/11/201319:26:44Sending Message Using Auth To:> wjs@domainb.net0=09> 11/11/201319:26:46General email error-1> 138421958226TTdone>=20> Any ideas/suggestions greatly appreciated!>=20> Will>=20> -----Original Message-----> From: William J. Starck, DDS [mailto:wjs@bigideasoft.com]=20> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 5:14 PM> To: talk@webdna.us> Subject: RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>=20> Hmmm can't tell from the logs because at the moment WebDNA is not =sending> the emails at all (nothing appears in the EMailFolder).>=20> But the server is 64 bit Linux Mint (Ubuntu based); CommuniGate Pro is =the> mail server and I'm using the FastCGI.>=20> :P>=20> Will>=20> -----Original Message-----> From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:41 PM> To: WebDNA Talk List> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>=20> What is in the email log ?>=20> If you have multiple entries it is definitely a WebDNA problem. If you =have> one entry and multiple sends you may have a SMTP problem.>=20> There was a problem similar to this a few years back with a linux SMTP> server, I can't be sure but it may have been squirrel mail.>=20> I had a similar problem on a windows server that I never got to the =bottom> of after years of trying, in fact it prompted me to move to Linux =hosting.>=20> Stuart>=20>=20>=20>=20> On 12 Nov 2013, at 6:40 am, William J. Starck, DDS => wrote:>=20>> Chris->>=20>> This website's folder was a virtual domain on the other server. On=20>> this server it is the only domain running.>>=20>> So I have:>>=20>> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com with uid:gid www-data:www-data=20>> permissions>> 755>>=20>> WebDNA is at>>=20>> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com/WebDNA with the same uid:gid and=20>> permissions>>=20>> I edited the paths for document root and WebDNA.fcgi in lighttpd.conf=20=>> to reflect this.>>=20>> All the pages are being served by WebDNA properly, and I haven't =moved=20>> any of the folders inside of the WebDNA folder.>>=20>> The ticks were set to 10, I tried bumping them to 30. Don't know if=20=>> that solves the multiple email problem, because as I said nothing is=20=>> showing up in the EMailFolder.>>=20>> Will>>=20>> -----Original Message----->> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:08 PM>> To: >> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>=20>> The first behavior you mentionned "a real customer tried to use the=20=>> form, and I got about a hundred emails from her one submission", my=20=>> guess is your ticks delay is too small. The second behavior "emails=20=>> aren't being sent at all" sounds like webdna.fcgi cannot write to=20>> /EMailFolder, either because it is not in the place it expects, or=20>> because of permissions or UID:GID. Did you move a folder? or the =fastCGI?> does it run with www-data:www-data? etc.>>=20>> - chris>>=20>>=20>>=20>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:41 PM, William J. Starck, DDS=20>> >> wrote:>>=20>>> Thanks for the reply Chris->>>=20>>> So, if nothing is showing up at all in the EMailFolder, is it a>> permissions>>> problem?>>>=20>>> Owner and Group for that folder is www-data:www-data and permissions=20=>>> are>> 755>>>=20>>> ???>>>=20>>> Will>>>=20>>>=20>>> -----Original Message----->>> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us=20>>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:33 PM>>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>>=20>>> Hi Will!>>>=20>>> Here is how WebDNA works to send email: WebDNA writes the mail to be=20=>>> sent>> in>>> /EMailFolder. There is only 1 thread sending email unless someone =has=20>>> sandboxing turned on (version 6.2). The email thread sleeps for X=20>>> ticks, then wakes up, runs through the EMailFolder, processes one=20>>> single>> acceptable>>> mail by forwarding it to a SMTP server, adds a log entry in =/EMailLog=20>>> and moves the mail to /EMailCompleted, then sleeps for X ticks, and> repeats.>>>=20>>> Acceptable means that the filename ends in the word "done".>>>=20>>> Processing the mail means the mail is sent through port 25 to either=20=>>> a localhost SMTP server or an external one.>>>=20>>> It will only process one email file for each sleep/wake cycle. So if=20=>>> the main thread starts to write a new email file while the email=20>>> thread is in the middle of a waking cycle, it does not matter. It=20>>> will be ignored until the main thread renames it to end in "done", =at=20>>> which point the email>> thread>>> will consider it during the next wake cycle.>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> - chris>>>=20>>>=20>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:20 PM, William J. Starck, DDS=20>>> >>> wrote:>>>=20>>>> I recently moved a FastCGI install over to Linux Mint 15.>>>>=20>>>> Starting about 2 months ago, I started noticing that one of my=20>>>> templates>>> with a [sendmail] that was previously working fine under Ubuntu was>> sending>>> multiple (hundreds) of emails when the form is submitted. I was=20>>> getting>> hit>>> by a spambot, so I thought that the template was just getting hit=20>>> rapidly multiple times. Then on Friday a real customer tried to use=20=>>> the form, and>> I>>> got about a hundred emails from her one submission.>>>>=20>>>> Now emails aren't being sent at all, and nothing is showing up in>>> EMailFolder, EMailCompleted or EMailProblem folders. I'm stumped.>>>>=20>>>> Here is EmailerPrefs:>>>>=20>>>> mail.myserver.com>>>> EMailFolder/>>>> EMailCompleted/>>>> EMailLog/>>>> 10>>>>=20>>>> Any suggestions? Chris, could you ssh in and have a look?>>>>=20>>>> Thanks,>>>>=20>>>> Will>>>>=20>>>> -->>>> William J. Starck, DDS>>>> Big Idea Software, LLC>>>> 1850 Keller Parkway Suite 102>>>> Keller, TX 76248>>>> 817-431-9566>>>> http://www.bigideasoft.com>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This=20>>>> message is>>> sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To>> unsubscribe,>>> E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug>>> Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>=20>>>=20>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the =mailing=20>>> list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing=20=>> list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing =list> .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing =list> .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (WebDNA 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("WJ Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (WebDNA 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("WJ Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (WebDNA 2013)
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- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("WJ Starck, DDS" 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (Stuart Tremain 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2013)
- [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
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OR ....It could not send an email to info@domaina.com because it does not =exist.RegardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.auOn 12 Nov 2013, at 1:17 pm, WJ Starck, DDS wrote:> OK, getting somewhere I hope ;)>=20> I replaced the webdna.ini with a fresh copy. Now the emails are ending =up in> the EMailProblem folder. Here is what the log shows>=20> 11/11/201319:26:32Sending Message Using Auth To:> info@domaina.com0=09> 11/11/201319:26:34General email error-1> 138421958223TTdone> 11/11/201319:26:44Sending Message Using Auth To:> wjs@domainb.net0=09> 11/11/201319:26:46General email error-1> 138421958226TTdone>=20> Any ideas/suggestions greatly appreciated!>=20> Will>=20> -----Original Message-----> From: William J. Starck, DDS [mailto:wjs@bigideasoft.com]=20> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 5:14 PM> To: talk@webdna.us> Subject: RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>=20> Hmmm can't tell from the logs because at the moment WebDNA is not =sending> the emails at all (nothing appears in the EMailFolder).>=20> But the server is 64 bit Linux Mint (Ubuntu based); CommuniGate Pro is =the> mail server and I'm using the FastCGI.>=20> :P>=20> Will>=20> -----Original Message-----> From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:41 PM> To: WebDNA Talk List> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>=20> What is in the email log ?>=20> If you have multiple entries it is definitely a WebDNA problem. If you =have> one entry and multiple sends you may have a SMTP problem.>=20> There was a problem similar to this a few years back with a linux SMTP> server, I can't be sure but it may have been squirrel mail.>=20> I had a similar problem on a windows server that I never got to the =bottom> of after years of trying, in fact it prompted me to move to Linux =hosting.>=20> Stuart>=20>=20>=20>=20> On 12 Nov 2013, at 6:40 am, William J. Starck, DDS => wrote:>=20>> Chris->>=20>> This website's folder was a virtual domain on the other server. On=20>> this server it is the only domain running.>>=20>> So I have:>>=20>> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com with uid:gid www-data:www-data=20>> permissions>> 755>>=20>> WebDNA is at>>=20>> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com/WebDNA with the same uid:gid and=20>> permissions>>=20>> I edited the paths for document root and WebDNA.fcgi in lighttpd.conf=20=>> to reflect this.>>=20>> All the pages are being served by WebDNA properly, and I haven't =moved=20>> any of the folders inside of the WebDNA folder.>>=20>> The ticks were set to 10, I tried bumping them to 30. Don't know if=20=>> that solves the multiple email problem, because as I said nothing is=20=>> showing up in the EMailFolder.>>=20>> Will>>=20>> -----Original Message----->> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:08 PM>> To: >> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>=20>> The first behavior you mentionned "a real customer tried to use the=20=>> form, and I got about a hundred emails from her one submission", my=20=>> guess is your ticks delay is too small. The second behavior "emails=20=>> aren't being sent at all" sounds like webdna.fcgi cannot write to=20>> /EMailFolder, either because it is not in the place it expects, or=20>> because of permissions or UID:GID. Did you move a folder? or the =fastCGI?> does it run with www-data:www-data? etc.>>=20>> - chris>>=20>>=20>>=20>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:41 PM, William J. Starck, DDS=20>> >> wrote:>>=20>>> Thanks for the reply Chris->>>=20>>> So, if nothing is showing up at all in the EMailFolder, is it a>> permissions>>> problem?>>>=20>>> Owner and Group for that folder is www-data:www-data and permissions=20=>>> are>> 755>>>=20>>> ???>>>=20>>> Will>>>=20>>>=20>>> -----Original Message----->>> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us=20>>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:33 PM>>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>>=20>>> Hi Will!>>>=20>>> Here is how WebDNA works to send email: WebDNA writes the mail to be=20=>>> sent>> in>>> /EMailFolder. There is only 1 thread sending email unless someone =has=20>>> sandboxing turned on (version 6.2). The email thread sleeps for X=20>>> ticks, then wakes up, runs through the EMailFolder, processes one=20>>> single>> acceptable>>> mail by forwarding it to a SMTP server, adds a log entry in =/EMailLog=20>>> and moves the mail to /EMailCompleted, then sleeps for X ticks, and> repeats.>>>=20>>> Acceptable means that the filename ends in the word "done".>>>=20>>> Processing the mail means the mail is sent through port 25 to either=20=>>> a localhost SMTP server or an external one.>>>=20>>> It will only process one email file for each sleep/wake cycle. So if=20=>>> the main thread starts to write a new email file while the email=20>>> thread is in the middle of a waking cycle, it does not matter. It=20>>> will be ignored until the main thread renames it to end in "done", =at=20>>> which point the email>> thread>>> will consider it during the next wake cycle.>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> - chris>>>=20>>>=20>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:20 PM, William J. Starck, DDS=20>>> >>> wrote:>>>=20>>>> I recently moved a FastCGI install over to Linux Mint 15.>>>>=20>>>> Starting about 2 months ago, I started noticing that one of my=20>>>> templates>>> with a [sendmail] that was previously working fine under Ubuntu was>> sending>>> multiple (hundreds) of emails when the form is submitted. I was=20>>> getting>> hit>>> by a spambot, so I thought that the template was just getting hit=20>>> rapidly multiple times. Then on Friday a real customer tried to use=20=>>> the form, and>> I>>> got about a hundred emails from her one submission.>>>>=20>>>> Now emails aren't being sent at all, and nothing is showing up in>>> EMailFolder, EMailCompleted or EMailProblem folders. I'm stumped.>>>>=20>>>> Here is EmailerPrefs:>>>>=20>>>> mail.myserver.com>>>> EMailFolder/>>>> EMailCompleted/>>>> EMailLog/>>>> 10>>>>=20>>>> Any suggestions? Chris, could you ssh in and have a look?>>>>=20>>>> Thanks,>>>>=20>>>> Will>>>>=20>>>> -->>>> William J. Starck, DDS>>>> Big Idea Software, LLC>>>> 1850 Keller Parkway Suite 102>>>> Keller, TX 76248>>>> 817-431-9566>>>> http://www.bigideasoft.com>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This=20>>>> message is>>> sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To>> unsubscribe,>>> E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug>>> Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>=20>>>=20>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the =mailing=20>>> list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing=20=>> list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing =list> .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing =list> .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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