Re: [WebDNA] maybe silly suggestion? [founditems]

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2015


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 111958
interpreted = N
texte = --Apple-Mail=_97D72F2F-95CE-4848-A199-10BCC74650F5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 If I'm to add my 2=A2 to this... There has to be careful consideration = weighing performance impact vs new tag value. I have no disagreement = with something simple like [realIP], but if a set of variables can be = easily stored in an include file, I am in disagreement with adding extra = code to, for instance, create persistent variables, if adding the extra = code has any negative impact on overall performance. I like the lean = machine that is WebDNA. I'd prefer to only make additions where either = the functionality cannot be achieved within the current language, or = could be made significantly easier without performance degradation. As far as the other teasers, Chris, I have yet to see a method to = maintain session status across stateless/sessionless http requests = without using either javascript, cookies or a session variable. I've = done experimentation with "browser fingerprint" using any and all = headers, but this has never proved to be bulletproof given the = increasing popularity of VPN services and other various proxies. = Javascript has some nifty ways of storing data across pages (and even = domains) but I would be curious how that could be used by WebDNAEngine, = as it would essentially need to be injected into the content of our = documents and of course not work if javascript is disabled. Instead of = leaving us on the edge of our seats, It might be advantageous to all = involved to bring this to group discussion. Thanks,=20 Mike [squarebrackethead] > On Jan 16, 2015, at 5:35 AM, Kenneth Grome = wrote: >=20 >> WebDNA is a different concept ... so don=92t expect WebDNA to >> start adopting other languages syntax and architecture. >=20 > I think this is the right decision. Thanks Chris. >=20 > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_97D72F2F-95CE-4848-A199-10BCC74650F5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 If I'm to add my 2=A2 to this...  There has to be = careful consideration weighing performance impact vs new tag value. =  I have no disagreement with something simple like [realIP], but if = a set of variables can be easily stored in an include file, I am in = disagreement with adding extra code to, for instance, create persistent = variables, if adding the extra code has any negative impact on overall = performance.  I like the lean machine that is WebDNA.  I'd = prefer to only make additions where either the functionality cannot be = achieved within the current language, or could be made significantly easier without performance degradation.

As far as the other = teasers, Chris, I have yet to see a method to maintain session status = across stateless/sessionless http requests without using either = javascript, cookies or a session variable.  I've done = experimentation with "browser fingerprint" using any and all headers, = but this has never proved to be bulletproof given the increasing = popularity of VPN services and other various proxies.  Javascript = has some nifty ways of storing data across pages (and even domains) but = I would be curious how that could be used by WebDNAEngine, as it would = essentially need to be injected into the content of our documents and of = course not work if javascript is disabled.  Instead of leaving us = on the edge of our seats, It might be advantageous to all involved to = bring this to group discussion.



Thanks, 
Mike
[squarebrackethead]



On Jan 16, 2015, at 5:35 AM, Kenneth Grome = <ken@webdnasolutions.com> wrote:

WebDNA is a different concept ... so don=92t = expect WebDNA to
start adopting other languages syntax and = architecture.

I think this is = the right decision.  Thanks Chris.

Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA = Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
Web Database = Systems and Linux Server Management


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  1. Re: [WebDNA] maybe silly suggestion? [founditems] (Kenneth Grome 2015)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] maybe silly suggestion? [founditems] (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2015)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] maybe silly suggestion? [founditems] (Michael Davis 2015)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] maybe silly suggestion? [founditems] (Kenneth Grome 2015)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] maybe silly suggestion? [founditems] (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2015)
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--Apple-Mail=_97D72F2F-95CE-4848-A199-10BCC74650F5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 If I'm to add my 2=A2 to this... There has to be careful consideration = weighing performance impact vs new tag value. I have no disagreement = with something simple like [realIP], but if a set of variables can be = easily stored in an include file, I am in disagreement with adding extra = code to, for instance, create persistent variables, if adding the extra = code has any negative impact on overall performance. I like the lean = machine that is WebDNA. I'd prefer to only make additions where either = the functionality cannot be achieved within the current language, or = could be made significantly easier without performance degradation. As far as the other teasers, Chris, I have yet to see a method to = maintain session status across stateless/sessionless http requests = without using either javascript, cookies or a session variable. I've = done experimentation with "browser fingerprint" using any and all = headers, but this has never proved to be bulletproof given the = increasing popularity of VPN services and other various proxies. = Javascript has some nifty ways of storing data across pages (and even = domains) but I would be curious how that could be used by WebDNAEngine, = as it would essentially need to be injected into the content of our = documents and of course not work if javascript is disabled. Instead of = leaving us on the edge of our seats, It might be advantageous to all = involved to bring this to group discussion. Thanks,=20 Mike [squarebrackethead] > On Jan 16, 2015, at 5:35 AM, Kenneth Grome = wrote: >=20 >> WebDNA is a different concept ... so don=92t expect WebDNA to >> start adopting other languages syntax and architecture. >=20 > I think this is the right decision. Thanks Chris. >=20 > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_97D72F2F-95CE-4848-A199-10BCC74650F5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 If I'm to add my 2=A2 to this...  There has to be = careful consideration weighing performance impact vs new tag value. =  I have no disagreement with something simple like [realIP], but if = a set of variables can be easily stored in an include file, I am in = disagreement with adding extra code to, for instance, create persistent = variables, if adding the extra code has any negative impact on overall = performance.  I like the lean machine that is WebDNA.  I'd = prefer to only make additions where either the functionality cannot be = achieved within the current language, or could be made significantly easier without performance degradation.

As far as the other = teasers, Chris, I have yet to see a method to maintain session status = across stateless/sessionless http requests without using either = javascript, cookies or a session variable.  I've done = experimentation with "browser fingerprint" using any and all headers, = but this has never proved to be bulletproof given the increasing = popularity of VPN services and other various proxies.  Javascript = has some nifty ways of storing data across pages (and even domains) but = I would be curious how that could be used by WebDNAEngine, as it would = essentially need to be injected into the content of our documents and of = course not work if javascript is disabled.  Instead of leaving us = on the edge of our seats, It might be advantageous to all involved to = bring this to group discussion.



Thanks, 
Mike
[squarebrackethead]



On Jan 16, 2015, at 5:35 AM, Kenneth Grome = <ken@webdnasolutions.com> wrote:

WebDNA is a different concept ... so don=92t = expect WebDNA to
start adopting other languages syntax and = architecture.

I think this is = the right decision.  Thanks Chris.

Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA = Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
Web Database = Systems and Linux Server Management


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