2016

Go=ogle "smtp telnet" test.

Do your test with the server you are using, via the terminal.

D. Brooke Mobile

> On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Andrew Burger <andrew.burger@crest-tech.com> wrote:
>
> Of course. It's a possibility with a new release of a relatively n=ew OS.=C2=A0 Do you (or anyone) have any feedback or knowledge of being abl=e to get SMTP Authentication to work with Google Apps at all?=C2=A0 Or othe=r widely implemented cloud-hosted email services? Yes - I do acknowledge th=e unique weirdness sometimes associated with Google Services in general com=pared to other standard email approaches.
>
> The new server machine is powered Server (under-the-hood Apache 2.2), =which ran and is practically unchanged from El Capitan (OS X 10.11), at lea=st in respect to the Website services=E2=80=A6=C2=A0 Do you happen to know =if sendmail / WebDNA 8 has similar problems under El Capitan? It would be r=eally helpful if anyone could verify that something like this has worked be=fore going down the route of starting up a whole new test server.=C2=A0 I==E2=80=99d also prefer not to go too far back on the OS version, as that=E2==80=99s one of the major reasons for the server migration to begin with=E2==80=A6
>
> Donovan - Definitely appreciate the help and time you=E2=80=99ve put i=n so far and any additional insight you are willing to give.=C2=A0 Keeping =my fingers crossed...
>
> If anyone else has any experience with running WebDNA 8 on relatively =recent OS X/macOS versions, please feel free to pipe in too.
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
> Andrew Burger


>
>
>
>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 8:56 PM, Donovan Brooke <dbrooke@euca.us> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>> I=E2=80=99m sure it helps, but I haven=E2=80=99t worked on this OS= (sierra) in a server capacity.
>> This is where I=E2=80=99ll have to pass off to someone else :-)>>
>> (My hunch is that the problem is something to do with that OS)
>>
>> Donovan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Andrew Burger <andrew.burger@crest-tech.com> wrote=:
>>>
>>> We are moving from a machine with OS X 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) =to macOS 10.12.2 (Sierra - latest public build).=C2=A0 WebDNA is using Serv=er Unlimited license on both. Partly why we are going through this=E2=80=A6=
>>>
>>> Here=E2=80=99s some quick information from WebCatalog to help =you better understand our environment.
>>>
>>> Mountain Lion Statistics (Old machine):
>>>
>>> WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2==A0 =C2=A0 Full-Working Unlimited mode
>>> This serial number is licensed to run=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2==A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 copy
>>> This serial number is licensed to run=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2==A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Unlimited Domains
>>> This serial number is licensed to open=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2==A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Unlimited databases at one time
>>> WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ==C2=A0 unix-Macintosh OS X Apache Module version 6.2
>>>
>>> Sierra Statistics (New machine):
>>>
>>> WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2==A0 =C2=A0 Full-Working Unlimited mode
>>> This serial number is licensed to run=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2==A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 copy
>>> This serial number is licensed to run=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2==A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Unlimited Domains
>>> This serial number is licensed to open=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2==A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Unlimited databases at one time
>>> WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ==C2=A0 unix-Macintosh OS X Apache Module version 8.2
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope that helps!
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Burger
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Donovan Brooke <dbrooke@euca.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is this a different operating system than the 6 server? If= so, what OS and version?
>>>>
>>>> Is this the latest WebDNA Server 8 version?
>>>>
>>>> Donovan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Burger <andrew.burger@crest-tech.com&g=t; wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Donovan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Excellent question.=C2=A0 Not using server sandboxes i=n this case (because this is not a shared server situation).=C2=A0 We are u=sing a dedicated physical server for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can do whatever is needed on the server in every re=spect, with the exception of what I=E2=80=99m trying to pass through Google= Apps with Auth/SMTP, etc.=C2=A0 Ideally, I=E2=80=99d prefer not configure =/ troubleshoot / secure-harden mail services there (since that is a real pa=in) if possible.=C2=A0 But, that being said, I=E2=80=99ll do what I have to= do. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, thanks for the note regarding bug reporting.=C2==A0 Now that I have the info from email notices, I=E2=80=99ll go ahead and =report that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew Burger
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Donovan Brooke <dbrooke@euca.us> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One common mistake (I still make this mistake some=times)=E2=80=A6
>>>>>> Are you using WebDNA Server SandBoxes by chance?>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding bug reporting, there is a link at the bo=ttom of this email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> Donovan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Andrew Burger &l=t;andrew.burger@crest-tech.=com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Objective:
>>>>>>> We are currently in the middle of migrating ou=r production WebDNA 6 server to a new one with WebDNA 8.=C2=A0 The remainin=g piece left to get working is having WebDNA send out email message via the= sendmail command.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Current Setup:
>>>>>>> The current production WebDNA 6 server works v=ia localhost (although exactly how that works is a little bit of a mystery =to me since we haven=E2=80=99t done any additional mail services setup on t=hat server but anyway=E2=80=A6).=C2=A0 More to the point, I=E2=80=99ve been= able to get the current production WebDNA server to work, as long as the p=roper SPF record was in place.=C2=A0 So we have a working routine in produc=tion now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steps Taken to Troubleshoot:
>>>>>>> With the new WebDNA 8 server, I=E2=80=99ve bee=n unable to get the sendmail command to send out a valid message.=C2=A0 I h=ave done verifications through WebDNA Email Folders. EmailCompleted have pr=operly processed the message and confirmed that it =E2=80=9Csent=E2=80=9D i=n the Email log file.=C2=A0 However, no message appears to go through to th=e recipients. I=E2=80=99ve even gone through an additional setup of setting= up the G Suite SMTP relay server and whitelisted the originating IP addres=s of the new WebDNA server inside the Relay settings and whitelisting the I=P for emails in Google Admin for regular SMTP (in addition to the proper SP=F record like I did for the currently working server).=C2=A0 I haven=E2=80==99t gotten any SPF passes or rejections though, so I=E2=80=99m not even en=tirely confident that it=E2=80=99s even getting to Google servers yet for p=rocessing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone else had any luck getting email aut=hentication working with Google Apps email?=C2=A0 I would truly appreciate =anyone that has some insight from anyone that=E2=80=99s got this to work or= whether we can confirm if something has changed with the mechanism used fo=r the sendmail command between WebDNA 6 or 8...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry if that=E2=80=99s a lot of information u=p front but wanted to explain what I=E2=80=99m trying to accomplish and the= steps taken so far to generate some useful feedback.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks so much and happy holidays!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrew Burger
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS - Pleased to meet all of you.=C2=A0 Just su=bscribed to the list and looking forward to getting to learn from the rest =of you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PPS - Also uncovered an issue in the WebCatalo=g Email Setup preferences in WebDNA Server 8.=C2=A0 It doesn=E2=80=99t appe=ar to be possible to uncheck STMP Auth and Require TLS through the web inte=rface once you enable it.=C2=A0 Had to manually force the param value back =to 0 through a WebDNA call to switch back and test =E2=80=98localhost' =settings.=C2=A0 Is there a proper way to report bugs like this or is alread=y a known issue?------------------------------------------------------=---
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